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Mayan texts reveal superpower wars
New Scientist ^ | 9-19-02 | New Scientist.com News Service

Posted on 09/19/2002 9:18:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Translations of hieroglyphs on the staircase of a pyramid in Guatemala reveal details of a superpower struggle between two city-states at the peak of the Mayan civilisation.

The 1300-year old hieroglyphs support theories that the Mayan world was riven by battles between two major powers, rather than smaller-scale clashes between multiple rival dynasties.

"It's rare that you find a new monument and it fills in such a large blank spot about the history of a region," says Arthur Demarest, an anthropologist at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee, who has led research at Dos Pilas in northern Guatemala, where the staircase was found.

"In today's terms, Dos Pilas was the Somalia or Vietnam of the Maya world, used in a war that was actually between two superpowers," he told the magazine of the National Geographic Society, which part-funded the new research.

The staircase was revealed in October 2001, when Hurricane Iris uprooted a tree at the base of temple ruins at Dos Pilas. Demarest's colleague Federico Fahsen has just completed translations of the text.

Pools of blood

The staircase describes 60 eventful years in the life of Balaj Chan K'awiil, who in 635AD became ruler of Dos Pilas, aged four. At that time, the text recounts, K'awiil's older brother was one of two powerful kings at war with one another.

His brother, the king of Tikal in northern Guatemala, was battling the ruler of Calakmul, 97 kilometres further north in what is now Mexico. Dos Pilas is 113 kilometres northeast of Tikal.

While K'awiil was in his twenties, Calakmul forces invaded and conquered Dos Pilas. K'awiil switched his allegiance to Calakmul and waged war against his brother for a decade, until Tikal was sacked. His brother and other members of the nobility were taken to Dos Pilas to be executed.

The west section of the steps describes the killings, says Fahsen: "It says: 'Blood was pooled and the skulls of the people of the central place of Tikal were piled up.' The final glyphs describe the king of Dos Pilas 'doing a victory dance'."

Demarest thinks the Mayan civilisation was probably on the verge of forming a single empire about the time of the battles described on the staircase. But instead, the war between the two powers continued. "And then the Maya world broke up into regional powers, setting the stage for a period of intensive, petty warfare that finally led to the collapse of the Maya," he says.

However, the causes of the collapse of the civilisation by 900AD remain the subject of hot debate. David Stuart of Harvard University thinks it is still possible that a cataclysmic environmental event triggered its final demise.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ancientsuperpowers; archeology; familyfeuds; lostcivilizations; mayans; war

1 posted on 09/19/2002 9:18:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: blam
Thanks, blam. This was a more complete story than the one I sent to you.
2 posted on 09/19/2002 9:19:54 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Thanks for the article, very informative. Ever since "Dances With Wolves" came out and the PC movement gathered steam, there's this image of New World natives as these peace loving, tree-hugging, New Age types that are always held up against the "evil Europeans". I like to use articles like this to point out that the New World (even the so-called "peaceful" Maya) was full of the same bloodshed and war that has plagued human civilization from the dawn of history.
3 posted on 09/19/2002 9:34:23 AM PDT by egarvue
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Something must be dreadfully wrong !
Why wasn't this story posted by blam ?
4 posted on 09/19/2002 9:58:44 AM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: egarvue
Read this 1491
5 posted on 09/19/2002 11:56:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: Hanging Chad
"Why wasn't this story posted by blam ?"

Because afraidfortherepublic found it first.

6 posted on 09/19/2002 11:58:17 AM PDT by blam
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To: Hanging Chad
Why wasn't this story posted by blam ?

In a way it was. I found this story on another site from the LA Times in a shortened version. I e-mailed the linke to blam because, although interesting, it wasn't worth shortening and providing a link to the LA Times. Blam wrote back that the link didn't work, and said, "Why don't you post this version?" (the one from New Science)

This was a much more complete story, so I posted it! LOL :~)

7 posted on 09/19/2002 12:21:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: blam
Thanks for that link to 1491!!! Excellent article.
8 posted on 09/19/2002 12:57:27 PM PDT by egarvue
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Has Calakmul been excavated? Anybody know where it is in relation to Tulum or Coba?
9 posted on 09/19/2002 1:05:19 PM PDT by austingirl
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Ancient Maya City Of Calakmul, Campeche

Coba was one of my favorites, spent a lot of time traipsing around the jungle in that area.

10 posted on 09/19/2002 1:16:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Thanks for the link - I've been to Coba, Tulum, and Chichen Itza, but not down to Guatamala or Campeche.
11 posted on 09/19/2002 4:08:27 PM PDT by austingirl
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To: blam
I believe this war is covered quite extensively in the book of mormon...
12 posted on 09/19/2002 5:57:03 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
"I believe this war is covered quite extensively in the book of mormon..."

Really? One of these day I'm gonna have to check out the BOM.

13 posted on 09/19/2002 6:03:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"thinks it is still possible that a cataclysmic environmental event triggered its final demise"

Yes indeed. All the cities they burned up caused global warming way back there in the 7th century.

14 posted on 09/19/2002 9:12:31 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: blam
I forgot to put the sarcasm on. Unlike the Bible, the BOM is not supported my any direct archeological evidence. The more we know about the ancient cultures of that area, the more like fiction it looks But, then, that is not the topic of this thread.

I was just making a joke. But if you're into that subject, you gotta read "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis. Much shorter read as well.
15 posted on 09/20/2002 9:33:41 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: egarvue

INDEED.


16 posted on 03/14/2010 8:44:13 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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