DEPRIVING THE ARABS OF THEIR PREY (GREAT READ)

The Arab nations continue to whine and complain that America has unfairly deprived them of their victory over Israel since 1948. Somehow, in their fertile imagination where Arabs wander about in their fantasy land, they believe they are not to blame for losing six wars of intended annihilation to their hated enemy, the Jews. They claim that "It wasn't the Jews who met each attack with courage and fighting skills that beat them on the field of battle." Clearly, 'they' didn't lose to the despised Jews who, for centuries the Arab Muslims had designated as lowly habitants of most Arab lands. If it wasn't the Jews, who in the Arabs' fables and imagination were weak and cowardly, it must have been America, who they call "The Great Satan" that defeated them.

So, the Arabs, as is their custom, invented new realities and history. They, the Arabs, were not fighting a small number of Jews, who sent them running from the field of battle. It was those dastardly Americans. Being beaten by a Superpower is acceptable to their testicle-driven pride and, therefore, there is no shame in being beaten by a Superpower.

Note! At this point a bit of reality and history is called for. Not only did the Americans not assist Israel in 1948 but America, along with Europe, embargoed arms shipments to Israel. She had to scrounge the junkyards of Europe to accumulate obsolete arms that dated back often to WWI and the cast-offs of WWII. It was long after that Israel was allowed to "buy" arms, using monies contributed by Jews in America. The Jews of Europe, having been killed off by Hitler's Nazis who were assisted by most European nations, could not contribute. Any property the survivors might have previously owned, had been confiscated by the occupying Nazis and their European collaborators. Their assets had been grabbed by Hitler, the French, the Swiss, the Ukrainians - etc. Well, it's all there in the well-researched books about WWII.

So, the walking skeletons who came out of the graveyards of Europe and made it past the British blockade to Palestine supplemented the earlier Jewish pioneers, bringing the Jewish population in 1948 to some 600,000. This became the rag-tag army who were issued a vintage rifle, allowed to fire 3 bullets for training and sent to fight the converging armies from 7 Arab countries - Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen. These armies were all well-trained and well-armed by the British or French. The always perfidious Brits left their Taggart Forts and ammunition to the Arabs upon their departure for England. The Arabs met this ghostly army of Jewish survivors and were driven back in shock by the Jews. The Arabs never forgot this humiliating loss. They call it 'Nakba', the catastrophe - which it was for them, both physically and psychologically. This was a loss to their testicle-driven manhood and a loss to their vaunted pride in the fertile imagination of their invincibility.

Later, the Jews from Arab countries were evicted from homes and businesses with their lineage going back thousands of years. They lived in tent camps but, unlike Arab refugees, the Jews of Israel accepted their own people and they were eventually absorbed by a new country which had no money, no external resources and few natural resources except their own brains, grit and faith. The Arab refugees were kept in deliberate squalor and never allowed citizenship in the Arab countries - although they claimed a spurious brotherhood.

As history unfolds, there were more attacks and frequent Terrorism in between the six actual wars. The Arabs were beaten again and again, even more soundly. The Jewish people, who had not been warriors since ancient times, re-learned the arts of war. They often built their own arms when they were denied arms from the Western nations who were more concerned with sucking up to Arab oil then the survival of the tiny Jewish State.

In each war that Israel won, the Americans, Europeans and the Soviets would step in to insure that there was no final surrender by the Arabs. After all, how could the lowly Jews force the Arab world to its knees in a military victory?! Israel was time and again forbidden the fruits of victory to secure her sovereignty. Israel could not be allowed to be victorious as America was when she and her Allies defeated Germany and Japan, imposing a just and secure peace. Israel was never to be permitted such a victory or a full peace with a defeated enemy. Even now, the world screams when Israel dares to defeat Arafat's Terrorists and impose a peace which only power can maintain.

History continued to stumble on, with the Arabs hating the Jews, the Americans and the ever-present sniveling Europeans. What the Arabs could not win on the battlefield, they tried to win through Terror. Out of the Arab nations came their proxies: Iran sponsors Hezb'Allah in Lebanon under Syrian control. Syria hosts at least 10-12 Terror organizations. Egypt founded the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) in 1964 - well before Israel had liberated Judea, Samaria, Gaza, the Golan Heights and that part of Jerusalem which Jordan had occupied for 19 years. Other Terror organizations, like Al Qaeda out of Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Afghanistan - with some from Iraq -were fostered and trained in various Arab countries. The Soviet Union also ran immense Terrorist training camps, a fact exposed to the incredulous world during the First Yonatan Conference Against Terrorism in 1979.

Our U.S. State Department covered up these facts that their Arab 'allies', Eg., Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, etc., were incubators for Terrorists. Rogue nations such as Iran, Syria, Iraq were more open in their display of hatred for Christian America and all non-Muslims. The Arabs called Israel "The Little Satan" and America "The Great Satan". They had a few pertinent, folksy sayings, like "First the Saturday people; then the Sunday people" and "Kiss the hand of your enemy until you can cut it off." These indicate the deep, enduring roots of the enmity that led to the 9/11.

Within days after 9/11, the FBI/CIA knew the perpetrators as 15 Saudi Arabians and 4 Egyptians, organized by Osama Bin Laden, a Saudi out of Sudan but then based in Afghanistan. So, America destroyed Afghanistan and the obvious Taliban Terror structure - leaving the warlords in control of their various areas and whatever Terrorists who could escape to the mountains or other countries - there to hide until opportunity calls them again for murder. They also thrive in the Free West, especially America, where they have set up "sleeper cells" awaiting their master Terrorists' calls for mega-attacks against their host countries.

Today, the radical Islamic Fundamentalists continue to turn history on its head, claiming that they only took up arms because it was the West, especially Israel and America, who attacked them, that is, who attacked Islam first. Arabs, when they revise history do not believe they are lying. The alteration of facts to suit their fantasies is simply a natural expression and custom of the way they see the world. A lie or a re-telling of the story is 'not a lie' but merely a 'new truth'. This is why the West cannot ever depend upon any agreement made with an Arab country. Everything is written on the sand which is quickly erased by the blowing wind and the laws of strict Islam.

When you hear an Arab Muslim say he is 'merely defending himself (or his country), be assured that he has already attacked his victim - particularly if he has lost the battle.

When you hear the Arab/Muslim nations bleat about why they are backward and poor, they blame America for their shortcomings. Be assured no one but their own leaders have whipped them down into the dirt.

The Lie is the Arab Muslims' best tool to explain defeat or excuse his planned attack against his enemies. As Carl Jung observed, the aggressor first blames his victim for planning to attack so that he can attack - with the claim that he is the supposedly injured party. The Leftist Liberal Media consume the 'Lie' as if it was candy - even expanding upon it.

So, losing wars to the Jews is merely the fault of the Americans who deprived them of their prey. To call the Arab Muslims "Terrorists" is not a racist statement. All the Terrorists in the last 10 years at least have been Arab Muslims. The Arab Muslim Terrorists are clever, deadly and have been trained and armed by the West. (We needed the money and the oil.)

Therefore, American had best be prepared to defend against malicious and nefarious Terror attacks of yet unknown magnitude. Winston Churchill once intoned: "The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet." So too, a radical Muslims, dedicated to a world dominated by Islam, will not stop until they are utterly defeated.

The major increase in terrorism really began with the Madrid talks. When the average Arab in the street saw that their violence got them concessions, it increased impetence to the call for random violence. The primary key was the continued offers of negotiations by Israeli leaders to the PLO, culminating in the Oslo talks. The Arabs saw that the Jews themselves would give them arms and training.

This final assault on Jews with homicide bombers is the result of the negotiations come to fruition. The only answer to it is to simply terminate all negotiations and annex all the land currently under Israeli control. All the leaders, including religious Islamic ones, who preach murder must be incarcerated, mosques demolished, and all murderous literature destroyed.

There is much more, but this is the only way to stop the bloodshed. When we came into Germany with Patton's army, we made the Germans do exactly the same. There can be no compromise with absolute evil. It must be rooted out and destroyed.

It was only once the tide turned against the attackers that the US and the UN intervened to prevent any more loses on the part of the Arabs.

You said: Again, no facts. Since Israel would not be able to survive without massive US subsidies, the burden of proof is on those challenging US motivations.

There seems to be some cognitive dissonance in your response. Before '73 particularly, Israel functioned, as most small and new nations without a lot of natural resources do, on grants, loans, etc. to help in their economic growth and national security. What preceded '73 was a consistent threat of intervention by World powers if Israel pushed the envelop and secured a victory unequivocally. In 1967 Israel could have gone to Amman, Damascus, and Cairo if necessary to make the issue of victory fully demonstrable. Israel was threatened by both superpowers and this was particularly evident in '73 when again Israel in turning the tide of the war was prepared to achieve unequivocal surrender by marching into anyone of those Arab cities noted above.

While you were quick to point out the U.S.' help to Israel, more related to the point of the Yom Kippur War and forward (since as noted above Israel functioned without "massive U.S. subsidies" before the '73 War) you concurrently forgot to mention the massive amount of strategic and military aid the Soviets were pouring in to both Egypt and Syria. It is undisputed that the U.S. specifically intervened to stop Israel's progress in the War of independence, the 1956 War with Egypt, the '67 and '73 Wars. The latter two wars particularly the U.S. used Israel as a international pawn in its strategic Cold War against the Soviets. And one of the reasons for Egypts indebtedness to the U.S. and that which started the U.S. on its course of of buying the status quo in that region is the U.S.'s specific intervention in the Sinai in stopping Sharon from destroying the Egyptian Third Army thus saving Egypt's face in the Arab world. And of course this is partly the reason for the U.S.' straightjacket on Israel oil and their influence in the Arab countries.

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LOL, is that right? That's not my recollection, but if you wish to try to prove it somehow, go right ahead.

It's history. I don't know what kind of proof would be acceptable to you beyond historical records.

Whenever the Arabs attacked, neither the US nor the UN said anything.

I don't see any facts backing this up.

Again, it's a matter of historical record.

It was only once the tide turned against the attackers that the US and the UN intervened to prevent any more loses on the part of the Arabs.

Again, no facts.

Sorry, it again is a matter of historical record. You can check all you want, you will not find any protests or condemnation from the UN or the US when the Arabs attacked.

Since Israel would not be able to survive without massive US subsidies, the burden of proof is on those challenging US motivations.

Your logic escapes me. Especially since your premise is incorrect. Israel would indeed be able to survive without what you term "massive US subsidies". All she has to do is eliminate the need for devoting such a large percentage of her budget to military purposes. Through a program of denazification of the Arab population in Israel and the Liberated Territories, and total destruction of her enemies' ability to wage war, and Israel can reduce her need for military aid and thus reduce the "massive US subsidies".

So, victory entails ensuring the survival of the Israeli state. Pretty much what I said originally,

We have different definitions of survival. Living in conditions where your citizens are murdered by terrorists is not survival in my opinion. Perhaps you feel it's something Israel can live with.

though I question the utility of forcing the Arabs to acknowledge "defeat" in a latter-day Treaty of Versailles situation.

I was thinking more of the defeat of the Nazis, not the Treaty of Versailles.

"Defeat" as you define it would not stop terrorism one iota and perhaps only give it more impetus.

We will have to agree to disagree on this as well.

"Demilitarizing" the Arabs would not solve the terrorism problem, either, and Israel has not been attacked in a major land war in almost 30 years.

The Arabs have recognized that Israel needs to be sufficiently weakened before the "final solution". Terrorism is a means to do this...to force concession after concession while their propaganda war isolates her diplomatically. By denazifying the population, you eliminate terrorism.

I don't need to supply any more facts than I have. I have given textual support for my questioning of the author's unsupported and biased attack on the US. But thanks very much for the permission to think what I like.

I don't see that you've supported your position with any facts. No doubt you feel the same way about my position. However, since you're starting to take a nasty tone, I will not respond to any further postings from you on the subject. Simply put, you can have the last word.

" a) one wonders how they could be both pro-Arab and anti-Semitic"

Cute. Did you come up with that yourself, or are you just repeating what you heard at the mosque? It's a common, erroneous, disingenuous, and muslim argument. Please excuse the redundancy.

Besides all of that, it is a deliberate sidetrack, intended to obscure the fact that muslims hate the Jews. It is a silly argument, implying that since the arabs are semites, they can't be anti-Semitic, therefore they can't hate Jews. Illogical muslim BS, but I'm being redundant again.

One only wonders if one is willfully ignorant of the meaning of the term "anti-Semitic". While both the Jews and the Arabs are Semites, anti-Semitic doesn't mean anti-Arab. The term was coined by Jew-haters, and means just that - Jew-hater.

Try a dictionary. Go ahead and look up "Semite", and pat yourself on the back for being so clever. But don't close the book until you've looked up "anti-Semite", and then go stand in the corner.

The American Heritage^® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

Semite

SYLLABICATION: Sem·ite
PRONUNCIATION: smt
NOUN: 1. A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians. 2. A Jew. 3. Bible A descendant of Shem.
ETYMOLOGY: Back-formation from Semitic.
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anti-Semite

SYLLABICATION: an·ti-Sem·ite
PRONUNCIATION: nt-smt, nt-
NOUN: One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.
OTHER FORMS: anti-Se·mitic (-s-mtk) —ADJECTIVE
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