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Posted on 09/17/2002 10:11:56 AM PDT by SheLion
It only costs me a nickel in public, unlike a smoker who has to spend several dollars for their disgusting habit.
What did you call it when you had "THAT DISGUSTING HABIT."
Better than the disgusting habit of cow-towing to your wife so much that you become a peckerless whinger!
Remember writing this?
My wife is still working on me. So far I have given up drinking, smoking, fatty foods, caffeine and wiskers in sink. Still on her list is staring at girls, socks on the floor, helping around the house and probably more than I know as of yet.
If the price of freedom from a life (and wife) like yours is a few dollars a day, I'll pay and pay and pay.
For giving out his own Money? Who is the nazi Now ?
Look, this is a free country, and he has the right, Call me when you guys worry about Government Entities giving money to Planned Parenthood and crap like that.
Hmmmm....Private Money, reducing states Medical burdens, and your problem with this is what exactly?
I could understand if the money were going in the Opposite direction, but the simple fact is RWJ is a renowned Philanthropist who spends an awful lot of time trying to do PALAPABLE GOOD with his money.
I don't suppose all you hypocritical bastards are giving up your MICROSOFT pcs because the Gates Foundation is one of Planned Parenthoods biggest suporters....But then again, ripping the unborn screaming from the womb is different than not being allowed to ingest a little nicotine in a hospital...
You know my list? heh!
Just when we think they are gone, they come back out of their box!
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Hey! Your pretty smart! I had forgotten about that little post he had there. Thanks for reminding us!!!!
That old crock has been debunked so many times it's due for an oil change. If that's the only reason you think what others do is any of your business, you'd better start looking for a new hobby.
"The lifetime health cost for a smoking man is $72,700 and $94,700 for a smoking woman. For nonsmokers, the cost is $83,400 for a man; $111,000 for a woman.
"If people stopped smoking today, there would be a savings in health care costs, but only in the short term. Eventually, smoking cessation would lead to increased health care costs." --New England Journal of Medicine,1997;337:1052-7.
I don't suppose all you hypocritical bastards are giving up your MICROSOFT pcs because the Gates Foundation is one of Planned Parenthoods biggest suporters....But then again, ripping the unborn screaming from the womb is different than not being allowed to ingest a little nicotine in a hospital...
IF abortion is so important to you, why don't you write to old RWJ and ask him why he isn't spending this money on THAT? Why waste all this money on the smokers when saving baby's is MUCH more important ANY day! How about that?
(You call me a bastard one more time I am turning you in for abuse).
But its Ok for you to join in in malignig VRWCminons wife, bc of a joke he made? I guess the Hypocrite part was right on.
Oh yeah, and PS....
If people stopped smoking today, there would be a savings in health care costs, but only in the short term. Eventually, smoking cessation would lead to increased health care costs." --New England Journal of Medicine,1997;337:1052-7.
That is true for anything that increases longevity, so should society now sponsor things that reduce the average lifespan, so should society now sponsor all manner of things that reduce life expectancy? That argument is so ridiculous, it is beneath ridicule.
I was meaning specifically, that by decreasing Hiospitals needs for money, they would be less likely to be burdening taxpayers for more, weather it be in the form of tax breaks, incentives, grants, or loosening of regulations.
Not to mention that this whole thread is a half-a$$ed misrepresentation. I went to the website and clicked on the substance abuse/tobacco box. and what it reveals really, is PRIVATE MONEY, going to other PRIVATE GROUPS....AMA, ACS etc, for activities such as education and lobbying...as to the latter,IIRC and I am sure I do, that is a protected form of political speech....
Look, I hate to see the State using Nefarious methods to regulate legal products out of use/existence, but This is not that.
There may be a worse case.
You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." Churchill
EXACTLY!
That is a grotesque misrepresentation of the facts. If I am wrong Put up, and I will shut up.
The Consumers For Affordable Health of Maine is receiving over until 2004, $992,060
From the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Now......where is this money going??!!
Private Money to a Private organization, ostensibly for education, and political lobbying.
It's right on their own website. I did not make this up. The more control, bans, restrictions and taxes imposed on a smoker, the higher the grant the state will receive. What is so hard to understand about this?
The money is used to chop off the head of the smokers. Tobacco is legal!!! If they want to ban the smoker, why don't they just ban tobacco and be done with it?
But oh! I forgot! Everyone would go BROKE!
The Money is going to Private Organizations in various states.
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