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Three men detained on terrorist suspicions still under investigation
Naples Daily News ^ | 09/17/02 | By MIREIDY FERNANDEZ, mmfernandez@naplesnews.com

Posted on 09/16/2002 10:16:31 PM PDT by Marak

Three men detained on terrorist suspicions still under investigation

Sheriff Hunter said he had new information on the trio before the medical students appeared on Larry King Live

Tuesday, September 17, 2002

By MIREIDY FERNANDEZ, mmfernandez@naplesnews.com

Just hours before the three men who were detained in Collier County on suspicion of carrying explosives appeared on CNN on Monday night, Sheriff Don Hunter said he had new information on the trio, whose alleged joking comments about a terrorist plot ignited fears across America last week.

"We believe the information (in this case) is not over because of other uncorroborated information we have at the moment," Hunter said.

The sheriff declined to elaborate because the investigation is continuing, but he did point out a discrepancy.

Authorities say Kambiz Butt, Ayman Gheith and Omar Choudhary were pulling a prank when the men made statements at a Georgia restaurant about a Sept. 13 terrorism attack in Miami.

All three men were detained along Alligator Alley for 17 hours between Thursday and Friday but were released after authorities learned the men had made the comments in jest.

On Monday night, they appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live'' and denied they ever made any statements with regard to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks or future terrorist strikes against Americans.

"What hurt me the most is they said it was a hoax," Gheith told King. "We didn't say anything about 9-11, 9-13 or September or anything like that."

What authorities said turned out to be a likely hoax Friday prompted the temporary closure of portions of Interstate 75 and brought law enforcement officers from 20 local, state and federal agencies to assist. Officers used a robotic bomb detector to search the two cars the men were aboard and led a bomb-detecting dog to sniff their belongings.

E.J. Picolo, regional director with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, said Monday it was too early to determine whether the men will be charged with a crime. After watching the King interview, Picolo said he couldn't comment about specifics of the investigation such as whether the men's account on live television concur with statements they made to police Friday.

"Our job is to investigate the situation," Picolo said. "We're going to report the facts as we find them and we'll go from there."

From the outset of last week's high-profile episode, Hunter and Picolo both said the men were uncooperative with authorities while they were interviewed.

"They weren't rude but they weren't fully cooperative," Picolo said.

Hunter said two of the men refused to answer questions, while the third would answer in the form of a question and "fished for information." Hunter declined to be specific.

Although no explosives or traces of bomb materials were found in either car, at a press briefing Monday, Hunter addressed a discrepancy.

A bomb-detecting dog alerted law enforcement there was some kind of bomb-making pattern in both cars, although authorities did not find any such materials.

"The dog alerts to a particular scent, picture or pattern . . . the dog doesn't make mistakes," Hunter said. "One theory may be that there were materials in those vehicles at some point that caused the scent."

Choosing his words carefully, Hunter told media representatives that he wasn't suggesting the three men were transporting explosives.

The sheriff, however, raised a number of questions he wants answered.

"I would want to know whether they were in the vehicles at the time" when any bomb-making materials were present, Hunter said. "We need to be able to explain why the dog alert happened and why the searches happened."

Hunter declined to divulge what new information he has received pertaining to the three men, all of whom are of Middle Eastern descent. The men are medical students who said they were on their way to Larkin Community Hospital in Miami to begin internships.

Hunter said he believes restaurant patron Eunice Stone of Calhoun, Ga., was telling the truth when she contacted authorities Thursday after she said she overheard the three men saying that Americans "mourned 9-11 and they are going to mourn again on 9-13."

Stone, who sat next to the men in a booth at a Shoney's restaurant, said she notified authorities because she feared the men were planning some sort of terrorist attack on Miami.

"That would lead one to believe that we're going to be attacked," Hunter said. "My professional opinion at the moment is that I believe Eunice Stone. She told the truth and did her civic duty and she should be commended."

Stone's attorney, Michael Prieto, also appeared Monday on "Larry King Live'' and said his client had no reason to fabricate a story about what she is certain she heard the Muslim men say inside the restaurant.

Stone was hospitalized with chest pains Monday, her attorney said.

An investigation is under way surrounding the comments the men made in Georgia and their bizarre behavior in Collier County that led deputies to make a traffic stop and issue a traffic ticket to one of the drivers who they say drove past a $1.50 tollbooth on Alligator Alley late Thursday without paying. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation issued a be-on-the-lookout bulletin, which Collier sheriff's deputies responded to when they stopped both cars, Hunter said.

The men say they never blew past the tollbooth, but Hunter said he has a sworn affidavit from the tollbooth operator stating that one of the cars drove through without paying. He also said his agency was in the process of obtaining a copy of a videotape that he said will show the car driving through.

Picolo, with FDLE, said the various agencies that assisted have yet to tally how much the entire operation cost — but assured that it wasn't going to be cheap.

"It was a very expensive proposition to respond in the manner that we did," Picolo said. "But given the information and circumstances, we had no other recourse but to respond at that level."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: Florida; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aligatoralley; alligatoralley; aymangheith; butt; choudhary; eunicestone; explosives; gheith; kambizbutt; medicalstudents; medstudents; omarchoudhary; terroristhoax
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To: txrangerette
You are correct! Discussion threads on Friday had lots of questions and speculation. I'll try to find the links.

I think one of the most suspicious things about the "family" press conference was how did they even know their relative was involved? The sister stated they'd heard nothing from them....so how did she know they were the perps. Someone in that family bunch also said they saw on TV that the police had roughed up the men. Big problems here.

The media or FDLE NEVER gave the names of the guys until they were released. They were detained at 1-1:30 am (dark) and not shown at all on TV until released. Beatings could not have been televised even if they had occurred!

Links to Story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/749886/posts?page=1438

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/750434/posts






81 posted on 09/17/2002 1:05:34 AM PDT by windchime
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To: Conservative4Ever
I can assure you that if there wasn't anything in that car BOTH dogs wouldn't have alerted. I can also tell you that whether they were bomb sniffing dogs or drug sniffing dogs they don't alert on a innocent doctor's lab coat. Especially if they're medical STUDENTS. If that was the case every doctor, pharmacist, medical student, etc. would be stopped in airports. That part of the story never made sense to me at all.
82 posted on 09/17/2002 1:10:44 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
As somebody indicated...as medical students, they may have had access to drugs...if these were drug-sniffing dogs....
83 posted on 09/17/2002 1:17:15 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: nopardons
What I simply can't understand, nor believe, is that some FREEPERS are defending these punks, bashing Eunice Stone, and condemning FREEPERS who believe Eunice and not the punks. Looks as though some CINOs have been thoroughly PC brainwashed , or aren't Conservatives at all.

That's bull. There are objective facts, and conflicting testimony as to those facts. None of this has a single thing to do with being conservative or not. I don't know who's telling the truth and neither do you, so quit wagging your finger, and that goes for the rest of the knee-jerk-rah-rah-Eunice-the-Muslims-are-obviously-liars crowd.

I don't have a problem with people having an opinion about what they think is probably true, or more likely to be true. But I do have a problem when people begin acting like clymers because someone is willing to look at the other side, or both sides, of a moot issue. Fact is, if I were forced to place a bet on the matter, I would bet on the accuracy of Eunice's account, but I'm not being compelled, and won't be compelled, to make a final or presumptive judgement unless and until the facts so compel me.

You have an opinion, and that's fine, but either get down off your high-horse and debate it fairly, without the "CINO" ad hominems, or let it be and ride off.

84 posted on 09/17/2002 1:19:01 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: kcvl
Thanks...you have confirmed what I suspect. The dogs are a big key in this story. As you say both dogs...and I believe both cars.

Red

85 posted on 09/17/2002 1:23:14 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever
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To: kcvl
Stone did the right thing. Now these three "wanna be Afgan's" are trying to use the liberal media to smear an American woman who felt it her duty to possibly provent another horror like 911. Now, do we let her stand alone or do we protect one of our own?
86 posted on 09/17/2002 1:24:22 AM PDT by 4TheTruth
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To: Stultis
Perhaps you haven't read as many posts, as I have, concerniong this matter. There have been FREEPERS who have condemned Eunice and said that the med student yobs were far more credible. One, in particular, has continually posted a lie ... that Eunice said that she overheard them speaking in Arabic.

There ARE CINOS on this site. They aren't Conservatives at all ; yet, they claim that they are. You don't own this forum, so don't attempt to give me any orders, which don't appear to be posted rules, by the owner. GOT THAT ?

Oh gee, another damned , little Holier Than Thou , know-it-all. Have you seen my knees jerking ? You use a crytal ball or tarot cards or an Ouija board ? Take a good look , at yourself , in the nearest mirror, to see a hypocritical finger wagger, dear. :-)

87 posted on 09/17/2002 1:26:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: glorygirl
If they did they weren't legal drugs. I don't know any medical students who have access to drugs that would alert drug sniffing dogs. That doesn't make any sense.

Think about this...a pharmacist who works with drugs everyday goes to the Federal building where there are drug & bomb sniffing dogs. Wouldn't that person be stopped if that were the case? The same with the medical students...besides don't medical students leave their lab coats in the hospital or clinic for cleaning?

88 posted on 09/17/2002 1:30:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Stultis
Just as soon as you get your finger out of my face!
89 posted on 09/17/2002 1:31:58 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Anyway, it says in the article above they were bomb-sniffing dogs. There's probably a difference. Maybe a dog-trainer will comment.

Don't know, don't know, kind of like the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill thing.

Just can't see Ashcroft letting them go if there was any doubt at all.

90 posted on 09/17/2002 1:38:28 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
I wonder if they are being watched after they were released? LE would have to have a reason to hold them but they could also be watching them and waiting for more information.
91 posted on 09/17/2002 1:44:24 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: nopardons
O.K. maybe I over reacted. Obviously I would have the same problem with anyone taking the position that Eunice must be lying as I would with someone taking that position vis-a-vis the med students. The dispute concerns a matter of fact, not of political ideology. In bristling at your incidental CINO labeling I was overlooking your justified criticism of the dogmatic anti-Eunice contigent. I only want to hear all the opinions and incidental facts on this matter. It seem way too soon to me to be shutting one side down.
92 posted on 09/17/2002 1:46:46 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Thanks for the sort of retraction. Yes, you did go over the top. What kind of a " Conservative " would cxlaim that Eunice not only lied, but that he heard her say, what no one else did, and that the 3 shlubs only began claiming tonight

There ARE known facts, in this case; as well as posted on FR lies, misquotes, and opinions. I won't stand for someone/s telling me that a fact isn't a fact and that only THEY know what was said. Neither do I respect anyone claiming to be a Conservative, talking like a Dem, a full blown Marxist, or a moderate Dem. I have seen some do that here. They are CINOS . Case closed. :-)

94 posted on 09/17/2002 1:54:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Marak
Well, well, well, the plot thickens.
95 posted on 09/17/2002 2:15:23 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Sledge
It is about 10 hours from Atlanta to Tamp, and about 3 hours from Tampa to Naples. Add in time for gas, restrooms, and meals, and there you have it.
96 posted on 09/17/2002 3:13:34 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: txrangerette; windchime
In Eunice's very first FNC interview, her phone exclusive w/John Scott, she not only didn't mention Arabic but she even SAID they spoke in ENGLISH. I am certain she said those words.

I am also certain she spoke those words.

Because our son lives in south Florida, I was particularly interested in this story and watched Fox News on Friday from 6 AM until 8 PM central time.

Eunice was asked several times about what language they were speaking and she repeatedly answered "English." She also said that they spoke without any accent. When asked if they spoke to each other in Arabic, she said that they did not.

97 posted on 09/17/2002 3:28:00 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: Sledge
It’s about 650 miles from Atlanta to Miami. Like you I would not drive from Atlanta to Miami via Naples. Why not go via Orlando and the Florida Turnpike? Too many police on that route? Any visitor to Florida knows about the police around the Orlando area.

So the question becomes what’s was so important on the west coast of Florida?

98 posted on 09/17/2002 5:14:35 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: DennisR
Lying is cultural trait of Arabs, says Barak
99 posted on 09/17/2002 5:20:16 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: stancibilis38
I want an answer on this too. FOX news reported Friday that one of the vehicles had a tag that didn't match the car. They were reporting from a house in a Chicago suburb, supposedly where the owner of the car lived. Now there's nothing being said about it.
100 posted on 09/17/2002 5:24:31 AM PDT by mommybain
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