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1 posted on 09/16/2002 4:14:03 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob
Let's hope we act as bravely as the two stewardesses did when the shoe bomber tried to light the fuse on a bomb hidden in his shoe.

No longer will anyone sit passively by and wait to die while terrorists do their ugly deeds.

A new hero in our midst......EUNICE STONE

2 posted on 09/16/2002 4:18:04 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Congressman Billybob
Nicely done!
3 posted on 09/16/2002 4:18:43 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: Congressman Billybob; fivetoes
What would you have done, on Flight 93?

I think we have a new FReep sign idea!

4 posted on 09/16/2002 4:22:09 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thanks for a great post !
7 posted on 09/16/2002 4:36:24 PM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: Congressman Billybob
My Answer comes from Thomas Paine: "THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value."

I beleive that I would have joined in, there really was no other logical action to take.

8 posted on 09/16/2002 4:46:47 PM PDT by SES1066
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To: joanie-f; snopercod; harpseal; Squantos; redrock; Congressman Billybob
If on September 11, 2001, there had only been one flight hijacked, and it was Flight 93 --- who would be standing by these people who mustered as a militia, which is our right, and affected martial power against their common enemy?

I submit that the "higher-ups" of politico-Republi-canery would have joined with the pack of groupe-nationalizing socialist Democrats in the politics of personal destruction against each and every one of the militia.

No matter the feeble records from the militia, in the hands of the public --- in spite of the government efforts to squelch it.

The acts of the militia in the skies over Pennsylvania, would have been severely condemned as "taking the law into their own hands" as the worst of "the vast right-wing" ... and "see what these 'vigilantees' are like?!"

In addition, I submit that federal government's reaction would be exactly every step taken to date, both abroad and at home:

Surgical attacks upon some terrorists "over there," because the opportunity affords it, and strict inside the airport security here.

For you may see that from such steps taken, what actually is the response of the federal government and the Bush [still running 75% of the Clinton] Administration.

9 posted on 09/16/2002 4:46:54 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Congressman Billybob
I can think of no other nation on earth where the passengers on a hijacked plane would try to take it back. Even with the knowlege that the ultimate mission was one involving suicide pilots.

Only here in the United States would ordinary people take the initiative as they did on flight 93. Europeans, South Americans, Asians, in my mind they would all have waited and hoped for the best.

That American trait of individuals organizing and taking the initiative was Bin Laden's greatest oversight. May he not rest in peace.

11 posted on 09/16/2002 5:38:52 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To the Muslims in America: Would you have exchanged high-fives with your "brothers" on the plane? Wished them well? Accepted their apologies for the unfortunate need for your demise? Said with them, "Allah akbar," and asked to go to the cockpit so you could have a good view of the "glorious strike against the infidels"?

Unfortunately, all too many "American" muslims would do just that!!! All while asserting that "islam is peace", "suicide is not part of islam", and other assorted lies and evasions. (There ARE honest muslims, however, who realize that islam is on a very dangerous and violent course, both for muslims and for the Rest Of Us!)

12 posted on 09/16/2002 5:43:46 PM PDT by Honorary Serb
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To: Congressman Billybob; Marine Inspector; sleavelessinseattle; 2Trievers; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ...
Must Read Mega-Ping for Congressman Billybob's Question of the Millenium!
14 posted on 09/16/2002 6:06:13 PM PDT by PsyOp
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"How, then, find the courage for action? By slipping a little into unconsciousness, spontaneity, instinct which holds one to the earth and dictates the relatively good and useful.... By accepting the human condition more simply and candidly, by dreading troubles less, calculating less, hoping more." - Henri Frederic Amiel, The Private Journal of.... 1883-4.
16 posted on 09/16/2002 6:15:35 PM PDT by PsyOp
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"Just as at the Olympic Games it is not the best-looking or the strongest men present that are crowned with wreaths, but the competitors (because it is from them that the winners come), so it is those who act , that rightly win the honors and rewards in life." - Aristotle, Ethics, Bk.I. c.334-23 B.C.
17 posted on 09/16/2002 6:18:33 PM PDT by PsyOp
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"Our grand business is not to see what lies dimly at a distance, but to do what lies clearly at hand." - Thomas Carlyle.
18 posted on 09/16/2002 6:22:17 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Congressman Billybob
were turning it back toward Washington, to use it as a flying bomb against the Capitol of the United States where Congress was in session.

Hmmmm.....I guess I would have stopped them.......for the sake of that beautiful building.

(But exterminating that infestation would have been mighty tempting.)

20 posted on 09/16/2002 6:38:53 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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Standing up cheering!
Bravo, Bravo!
Brilliant analogy Billybob.
24 posted on 09/16/2002 6:45:06 PM PDT by ladyinred
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Nice parable. Reminds me of the train wreck scene from Atlas Shrugged:
It is said that catastrophes are a matter of pure chance, and there were those who would have said that the passengers of the Comet were not guilty or responsible for the thing that happened to them.

The man in Bedroom A, Car No. 1, was a professor of sociology who taught that individual ability is of no consequence, that individual effort is futile, that an individual conscience is a useless luxury, that there is no individual mind or character or achievement, that everything is achieved collectively, and that it’s masses that count, not men.

The man in Roomette 7, Car No. 2, was a journalist who wrote that it is proper and moral to use compulsion “for a good cause,” who believed that he had the right to unleash physical force upon others—to wreck lives, throttle ambitions, strangle desires, violate convictions, to imprison, to despoil, to murder—for the sake of whatever he chose to consider his idea of “a good cause,” which did not even have to be an idea, since he had never defined what he regarded as good, but had merely stated that he went by “a feeling”—a feeling unrestrained by any knowledge, since he considered emotion superior to any knowledge and relied solely on his own “good intentions” and on the power of the gun.

The woman in Roomette 10, Car No. 3, was an elderly schoolteacher who had spent her life turning class after class of helpless children into miserable cowards, by teaching them that the will of the majority is the only standard of good and evil, that a majority may do anything it pleases, that they must not assert their own personalities, but must do as others were doing.

The man in Drawing Room B, Car No. 4, was a newspaper publisher who believed that men are evil by nature and unfit for freedom, that their basic interests, if left unchecked, are to lie, to rob and to murder one another—and, therefore, men must be ruled by means of lies, robbery and murder, which must be the exclusive privilege of the rulers, for the purpose of forcing men to work, teaching them to be moral and keeping them within the bounds of order and justice.

The man in Bedroom H, Car No. 5, was a businessman who had acquired his business, an ore mine, with the help of a government loan, under the Equalization of Opportunity Bill.

The man in Drawing Room A, Car No. 6, was a financier who had made a fortune by buying “frozen” railroad bonds and getting his friends in Washington to “defreeze” them.

The man in Seat 5, Car No. 7, was a worker who believed that he had “a right” to a job, whether his employer wanted him or not.

The woman in Roomette 6, Car No. 8, was a lecturer who believed that, as a consumer, she had “a right” to transportation, whether the railroad people wished to provide it or not.

The man in Roomette 2, Car No. 9, was a professor of economics who advocated the abolition of private property, explaining that intelligence plays no part in material production, that man’s mind is conditioned by material tools, that anybody can run a factory or a railroad and it’s only a matter of seizing the machinery.

The woman in Bedroom D, Car No. 10, was a mother who had put her two children to sleep in the berth above her, carefully tucking them in, protecting them from drafts and jolts; a mother whose husband held a government job enforcing directives, which she defended by saying, “I don’t care, it’s only the rich that they hurt. After all, I must think of my children.”

The man in Roomette 3, Car No. 11, was a sniveling little neurotic who wrote cheap little plays into which, as a social message, he inserted cowardly little obscenities to the effect that all businessmen were scoundrels.

The woman in Roomette 9, Car No. 12, was a housewife who believed she had the right to elect politicians, of whom she knew nothing, to control giant industries, of which she had no knowledge.

The man in Bedroom F, Car No. 13, was a lawyer who had said, “Me? I’ll find a way to get along under any political system.”

The man in Bedroom A, Car No. 14, was a professor of philosophy who taught that there is no mind—how do you know that the tunnel is dangerous?—no reality—how can you prove that the tunnel exists?—no logic—why do you claim that trains cannot move without motive power?—no principles—why should you be bound by the law of cause-and-effect?—no rights—why shouldn’t you attach men to their jobs by force?—no morality—what’s moral about running a railroad?—no absolutes—what difference does it make to you whether you live or die anyway? He taught that we can know nothing—why oppose the orders of your superiors?—that we can never be certain of anything—how do you know you’re right?—that we must act on the expediency of the moment—you don’t want to risk your job, do you?

The man in Drawing Room B, Car No. 15, was an heir who had inherited a fortune, and who kept repeating, “Why should Rearden be the only one permitted to manufacture Rearden Metal?”

The man in Bedroom A, Car No. 16, was a humanitarian who had said, “The men of ability? I do not care what or if they are made to suffer. They must be penalized to support the incompetent. Frankly, I do not care whether this is just or not. I take pride in not caring to grant any justice to the able, where mercy to the needy is concerned.”

These passengers were awake; there was not a man aboard the train who did not share one or more of their ideas. As the train went into the tunnel, the flame of Wyatt’s Torch was the last thing they saw on earth.


30 posted on 09/16/2002 7:00:50 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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Big Fat FReeper Bump!

Creatively layed out argument, nicely written! Thanks Congressman Billybob! You're right on.
32 posted on 09/16/2002 7:10:42 PM PDT by Libertina
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Nobody can know for sure what they would've done, had they been in the same seats as Todd Beamer and the other passengers on UA 93. We never know how we will respond to life and death situations until we are, in fact, confronted by them.

But the history of the American people, as distinct from her government, has always been to do what needed to be done.

I would like to believe, then, I would act as any other American.

One of your finest, champ.

33 posted on 09/16/2002 7:18:55 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Congressman Billybob
a great bump
35 posted on 09/16/2002 7:33:26 PM PDT by lonestar
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As I told my dad to do on 9/11/2002, if you see a terrorist>>>>>>>> KILL THE MOTHER :expletive:'er!!!

RAMPAGE!!!!!!

37 posted on 09/16/2002 7:54:12 PM PDT by aSkeptic
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Amen! One addendum, What would the NEA have done?
1) Complained (like they did about the movie "The Patriot") that attacking the hijackers entailed too much violence?
2) Complained (like in their platform) that there weren't enough gays and minorities involved henceforth the action was divisive not inclusive?
3) Complained that by attacking the muslim hijackers Beamer and compatriots were taking a positon that muslims were behind this onerous action and thus it was neither PC or multicultural (see their 9/11 anniversary position)?
39 posted on 09/16/2002 8:12:18 PM PDT by Righty1
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