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Jackson dismisses Founding Fathers
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | September 16, 2002 | Steve Miller

Posted on 09/16/2002 3:36:07 PM PDT by Coeur de Lion

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:57:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

EAST LANSING, Mich.

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To: Couer de Lion
democracy as we know it did not begin in Philadelphia, where a bunch of white men wrote the laws

Masculine republics decline to feminine democracies, and then decay to dictatorship" -- Attributed to Aristotle

21 posted on 09/16/2002 4:15:06 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: xsive_guy
Hmmm, he speaks more truth than he realizes... When we became a democracy instead of a republic we lost our freedoms

how right you are

22 posted on 09/16/2002 4:33:25 PM PDT by USA21
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To: AdamSelene235
Masculine republics decline to feminine democracies, and then decay to dictatorship" -- Attributed to Aristotle

We have glaring non-examples of how well matriarchies work (don't work) in this country. Look at the inner cities, where single mothers are the norm to head the family, children's teachers are most likely females, the high welfare case load and other social services are handled by social workers, who are mostly women, and good male role models are as scarce as ethical behavior in the Clinton adminstration.

The result is a ghetto with poverty, gangs, violence ...

On the other hand, I admire greatly Margaret Thatcher, Katherine Harris, Condaleza Rice, .... I'm all for strong women! But I'm sick and tired of white male bashing, for we owe them a lot and they did make this country great. And we need them again to keep this country great.

23 posted on 09/16/2002 4:34:37 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Couer de Lion
Shouldn't Daddy Jackson be down in Floriduh, drumming up "victims" in an attempt to steal another election?
24 posted on 09/16/2002 4:45:00 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: knighthawk
LOL! They don't want him. He can only get a 48 hour visa.
25 posted on 09/16/2002 4:57:41 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Couer de Lion
Michigan State University's football team got knocked out of the Top 25 on Saturday by the lowly Cal Berzerkeley team...serves them right.

JJ is wrong about only white men being allowed to vote at the time the Constitution was written--that was not true in all 13 states.

26 posted on 09/16/2002 4:57:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Couer de Lion
Yeah, it's just unfortunate that ol' Jesse had to come into this world under such a racist, sexist society.

After all, if only he'd have been born in one of the nations of Africa, or in China, or in Latin America.

Just think of the wonderful legacy of freedom and liberty that he would have been able to claim.

27 posted on 09/16/2002 5:26:10 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: KarlInOhio
English is a great language but it is a minority language Jesus didn't speak it.

He din' speak no "ebonics" either, Br'er Jesse.

28 posted on 09/16/2002 5:27:39 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: NEWwoman
Masculine republics decline to feminine democracies, and then decay to dictatorship" -- Attributed to Aristotle

Actually, I believe that was a theory that was propounded by Hugh Nibley about fifty years ago, not Aristotle 2,500 years ago.

29 posted on 09/16/2002 5:29:26 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: KarlInOhio
The event here was poorly attended after student organizers predicted a crowd of 6,000. The group provided 2,000 free tickets to students and booked the arena area of the center, which has a capacity of 15,000.

More people are beginning to understand just how irrelevant JJ has become. Give away 2000 tickets and 600 show up to hear his race baiting and Bush bashing.

30 posted on 09/16/2002 9:20:43 PM PDT by eggman
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To: NEWwoman
We have glaring non-examples of how well matriarchies work (don't work) in this country.

While I generally agree with your conclusions, I have to take issue with this statement.

A matriarchal society does not equate to a fatherless family. A matriarchal society is one in which the female takes the leading role in the decisions made about family affairs, not one in which there are no males. A society with a large number of female single-parent households is not matriarchal nor is a society with a large number of male single-parent households considered to be patriarchal. There is a word for single-parent households. The word is disfunctional.

Traditional Hebrew families and many Asian cultures are quite matriarchal yet don't have the same problem as American single-parent families do. It is not a relevant comparison.

If you meant to blame the destruction of the nuclear family for the problem, I will agree.

31 posted on 09/16/2002 9:33:51 PM PDT by Knitebane
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To: Knitebane
Agreed the inner cities (and other places as well) are dysfunction.

By your definition that, A matriarchal society is one in which the female takes the leading role in the decisions made about family affairs , what goes on in the inner city seems to fit. Actually, I did not think of this example myself. I recall Walter Williams talking about it on the radio.

There are other examples of matriarchal societies that have worked better (as you have pointed out): some aborigines, some aspects of the Hebrew culture...

There are numerous examples of patriarchal that have or haven't work well, also.

32 posted on 09/17/2002 6:17:47 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Couer de Lion

JESSE JACKSON IS A RACIST


33 posted on 09/17/2002 6:20:51 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: stand alone

Welcome to your first day at FR.

C


35 posted on 02/27/2005 8:52:51 AM PST by chris_in_nj
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To: chris_in_nj
Welcome to your first day at FR.

And last.

36 posted on 02/27/2005 8:54:24 AM PST by Always Right
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To: TLBSHOW

Well TLB, that was short and sweet ;-)


37 posted on 02/27/2005 8:59:22 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: stand alone
Jesse Jackson makes his money off the poor that live in the ghetto aka Democrat Plantation, generation after generation. A black male can not support his family but only the White Elitist Liberal can aka Democrat Party. A black male can not be the head of his family and raise his children but White Elitist Liberal can aka Democrat Party. Blacks just can't make it on their own but only through the helping hand and guidance of the White Elitist Liberal aka democrat Party again. Are we starting to see a pattern now?

Well Jesse has done quite well for never working a real job and always doing it on the backs of the poor uneducated blacks. Jesse only cares about blacks as long as they know their place, believe the jive and continue to vote for the White Elitist Liberal aka Democrat Party which happens to keep him in the life of luxury. You see Jesse knows his place.

You say things have improved because of Jesse. Well I do not know what Jesse you are talking about but the one I know continues to spout the same rhetoric over and over since the sixties. So has anything really changed from then to now. Lets take a hard look. Blacks can sit anywhere when it comes to public transportation. In fact, there are black pilots for example. Blacks can go to any store, club, or public bathrooms, etc even in the deep south. My next door neighbor is black and so are couple of more living on my block. Mind you I said my block. There are quite a few in my neighborhood but who is counting. I'm not are you. I have co-workers who happen to be black and quite a few in upper management. Should I as a white person be insulted? Don't think so, they earned it. Major sports teams have a lot of blacks. I sure would like to make that kind of money but alas, I do not have the skills nor talent. I don't see where they were held back in making the "big bucks". My Doctor is black and a female to boot. Oh no, should I be alarmed? She is a great Doctor and I am thankful for her.

In Jackson's eyes, a black that succeeds and does not toe the party line is a "Uncle Tom". For example to name a few, Supreme Court Justice Thomas, Condoles Rice Secretary of State whom happen to replace another black man, Colin Powell. Oh no you better not try to emulate or praise them but pimps, rappers, and felons are the true idols so claims the White elitist Democrats. It seems for a "racist" party, those Republicans should do appoint blacks to high office. Of course, the democrat party would not even allow a Black Man to be the head of the DNC little on anything else of REAL importance and power. Wait a minute, I forgot, Bill Clinton was their first Black President (again, white elitist Liberal) who only after an uproar due to cost decided to move his office to his second choice, Harlem. Bill Clinton who tore down a railroad station built by free black slaves to make room for his library. Who is the true racist, I ask you? It amazes me when the White Elitist Democrats are pretty much in your face with their racism and yet, people refuse to see. In Jackson's mind, only a WHITE ELITIST LIBERAL (DEMOCRAT PARTY) can help the poor black man because the poor blacks are inferior and not capable to do it themselves. Huh????

You want to overcome, well take your doctrinated white elitist liberal blinders off and than think not feel for a moment. Who runs the liberal cities where the ghettos rein? Democrats. Who are your leaders that are elected from the ghettos? Democrats. Who screams against vouchers so the children in the ghettos are kept from a real education? Democrats. Who keeps yelling and screaming that as a black person can not make it on their own but needs whitey elitist liberal to do it for him? Democrats. So stop being a slave and free yourself from the elitist liberal run plantation (democrat party) because as far as conservatives are concern, blacks are no different then anyone else. Blacks are no better than anyone nor are inferior to anyone. Martin Luther King did not see skin color and believed all was equal so does the Republican Party. Republicans are not keeping any blacks from going to school, library, opening a book and studying, no matter what race pimps or white elitist democrats try to tell you. Republicans are not keeping anyone from getting a good paying job when one is qualified. Republicans are not keeping anyone from purchasing a home anywhere as long as they can afford it. Stop living in the past (this is where the White Elitist Democrats want you), never moving forward, always dependent on them. End of Lesson - Real Life 101

38 posted on 02/27/2005 10:55:58 AM PST by Two-Bits (ABORTION - Never A CHOICE but A MALE'S FREE PASS from RESPONSIBILITY & CUPABILITY!)
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To: KarlInOhio
democracy as we know it did not begin in Philadelphia, where a bunch of white men wrote the laws."

"These men's wives were not allowed [to vote], these laws were made at a time when only white men had the right to vote," Mr. Jackson said, noting that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was the commencement of "true democracy."

The Constsitution doesn't say women can't vote or anything about who is elibible or what age you have to be. That is left up to the states. - Tom

39 posted on 02/27/2005 11:08:53 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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