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Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus' (anti-Christian Bigotry Alert!)
Torah Atlanta ^ | 2002 | Paul Haist

Posted on 09/15/2002 5:20:45 PM PDT by jstone78

Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus'

By Paul Haist, Jewish Review

Portland’s Jewish community has mobilized to resist a two-week assault by Jews for Jesus who will unleash a sizeable squad of trained proselytizers on the city at the beginning of June. A former Eugene rabbi who now specializes in combating Jews for Jesus returned to Oregon May 7 and 8 to help the Jewish community here prepare for the assault. The campaign is planned to coincide with the annual Portland Rose Festival when thousands of people will be on the streets and accessible by pamphleteers.

Rabbi Efraim Davidson is the director of Torah Atlanta, a counter-missionary group that serves the southeast United States. Davidson, who lives in Atlanta now, was a founder and the spiritual leader of Congregation Ahavas Torah in Eugene.

ANTI-'JEWS FOR JESUS' FLIER

The Jewish Federation of Portland and its Community Relations Committee have been aware for several months of JFJ plans to bring their crusade here now to take advantage of the large public gatherings that will occur during the Rose Festival.

Davidson said that the Portland campaign is part of a JFJ five-year program called “Behold Your God.” He has confronted similar JFJ campaigns in other cities, including Tampa, Fla., and Atlanta.

“Behold Your God,” is, according to Davidson, “a very well coordinated, multi-million-dollar campaign” focusing on 66 cities worldwide with Jewish populations of 25,000 or more.

He said that the Jews for Jesus use aggressive proselytizing to target disenfranchised or unaffiliated Jews, Russian immigrants and college students. He said their techniques are manipulative, deceptive and anti-Semitic.

Jews for Jesus have had some success in recent years. Davidson cited figures that show the group has grown from a mere seven U.S. congregations in 1975 to 478 today. There already are at least five so-called messianic congregations in Portland, according to the Web site www.missionportland.org, although Davidson identifies only three messianic congregations here.

Davidson added that in 1973 there were an estimated 10,000 born Jews in the United States who were practicing Christians. Today, 29 years later, he put that figure at about 250,000.

Davidson said the JFJ typically names a coordinator for a particular city that is part of its campaign plan. That person, who he identified as Sue Pearlman in Portland, does the groundwork for the upcoming campaign.

That groundwork includes, said Davidson, “hooking up with a messianic congregation and using it as the physical base for training.”

The coordinator also usually contacts local Baptist churches to recruit lay Christian volunteers. Davidson said the JFJ relies on the Baptists because they are “very motivated evangelicals.”

(Excerpt) Read more at torahatlanta.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bigotry; christians; freespeech; jews
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To: OldFriend; Jorge
So you don't have to accept it.

But the question is what Christians are supposed to believe. Jorge's point is that, if Christians do not proselytize among Jews, they will be denying their own beliefs -- or at least what they claim are their beliefs.

41 posted on 09/15/2002 6:34:30 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: jstone78
"Jews for Jesus have had some success in recent years. Davidson cited figures that show the group has grown from a mere seven U.S. congregations in 1975 to 478 today. There already are at least five so-called messianic congregations in Portland, according to the Web site www.missionportland.org, although Davidson identifies only three messianic congregations here."

"Davidson added that in 1973 there were an estimated 10,000 born Jews in the United States who were practicing Christians. Today, 29 years later, he put that figure at about 250,000."

My hat goes off to the Baptists. They are the ones making the most progress with the Jews.

42 posted on 09/15/2002 6:34:31 PM PDT by nmh
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To: OldFriend
{"....As a jewish woman I get the feeling that some won't be happy until there are NO jews left in the world....."}

Conservative Christians are aware that such people exist. That is why conservative Christians (of all denominations) are the strongest defenders of Israel in the United States.

Bible-Believing Christians are the best friends that Israel has in the whole wide world.
43 posted on 09/15/2002 6:38:38 PM PDT by jstone78
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To: CanadianFella
"The Torah speaks nowhere about a 'second coming'. The Messiah is supposed to do his work as soon as he comes. It's been 2000 years, and no messayaroony miracles in sight... "

As an "atheist" you'd be better off being silent on things you don't know and don't accept.

You couldn't be more wrong. Clues of the coming of Jesus are all over the Old Testament. It's all in how you interpret the evidence. The Jews didn't expect their Messiah to have a humble birth and they also expected the Messiah to free them. Neither happened, so Jesus did not meet their expectations hence the disbelief. All I can say from a secualar point of view is the NO human has had such a dramatic impact on the human race. No one! Sure they can change A.D. and B.C. to common era but it will not erase Jesus.

44 posted on 09/15/2002 6:38:50 PM PDT by nmh
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To: OldFriend
Like it or not, the Old Testament says no such thing.

What does the Old Testament teach about how the Jew obtains salvation/forgiveness?

45 posted on 09/15/2002 6:39:19 PM PDT by ru4liberty
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To: Sans-Culotte
I think this is pretty much already happening already with school curiculae, Rosie O'Donnell et al beating that drum. Do you really not find the homosexual community already "in your face"?

By tv, which I change the channel. So far, they haven't infiltrated our schools here. I don't have them knocking on the door.

46 posted on 09/15/2002 6:41:21 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: OldFriend
Like it or not, the Old Testament says no such thing.

Jesus said;
"For if you had believed Moses, you would have believed me. For he wrote of me"

47 posted on 09/15/2002 6:48:35 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: jstone78
If someone doesn't want to be bothered by a particular group, but the group persists, then become a pest. A pest is a pest is a pest.
48 posted on 09/15/2002 6:50:05 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: Illbay
Too Funny. "Evangelical" christians are content to cheer the Jews in Israel, whom they see as a catspaw against Islam.

But when Jews here in the U.S. evince a distrust of these same evangelicals' proselytizing efforts, suddenly they're "anti-christian bigots"!

Excellent observation!

49 posted on 09/15/2002 6:51:30 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: jstone78
I'm speaking as an Agnostic Jew here, and speaking only for myself, although I've got a cousin who's a messianic Jew.

I believe that if you've accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you ARE a Christian. It seems that is the #1 requirement for being a Christian. You might be a Christian with a Jewish Heritage, but let's call a spade a spade.

Since one of the main tenants of the Jewish religion is believing that the Messiah hasn't arrived yet, I don't really see how these diverging requirements can co-exist.

On the other hand, if someone wants to paint themselves blue and call themselves a blueberry, who am I to tell them what they can and can't do?

Next, the question, what's wrong with "Jews for Jesus." Well, if you believe in "truth in advertising," see my first paragraph. Historically, as bad as every calamity that befell Jews were, the greatest danger to the continuation of the Jewish faith is intermarriage and integration into "secular society" (there's a word for it, but I just can't come up with it right now). This is a major point that is mentioned in the Bible (which the white supremecists use for decrying interracial marriage).

The fact is, that in deeply religious Jewish communities, you'll find that there's no problem with it. It's in communities where there is far less belief in their religion, and when people attemtp to get others to convert, it's taken as a direct assault on their religion.

Mark

50 posted on 09/15/2002 6:55:55 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: ru4liberty
What does the Old Testament teach about how the Jew obtains salvation/forgiveness?

I believe they offered animal sacrifices every year in the temple.

I've often wondered what the modern belief is. The Jews don't have a temple in Israel (right now), and they don't make sacrifices anymore, so how are they redeemed?

The muslims now have that big ugly dome thing where they worship one of those rocks on the site of where the Jewish temple used to be. I've heard that there are certain factions of Ultra-orthodox Jews who want to rebuild the temple there. I've always felt that if the tension got too high in the Mid-East, that dome will disappear with a loud BOOM...

51 posted on 09/15/2002 6:59:23 PM PDT by pocat
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To: sfwarrior
Rabbi Daniel Lapin is a great man.

While I do not agree with him theologically, he defends the rights of Christians with more courage and more passion, than most conservative Christian leaders in the United States. The problem with modern day Christian leaders, is that they are too guilt-filled and spineless, to defend their heritage effectively.

In my view, Rabbi Lapin and the distinguished scholar, Prof. Paul Gottfried, are the two greatest Jewish conservatives around today. And they are both REAL conservatives, not neo-conservatives.
52 posted on 09/15/2002 7:00:14 PM PDT by jstone78
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To: onedoug
One God. One morality. Decency toward others. Deed more than creed.

Precisely!

53 posted on 09/15/2002 7:01:02 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: jstone78
prepare for the assault.

Hyperbole of the left...hardly an "assault"...but this makes it sound so much more threatening and their bigoted response more legit

54 posted on 09/15/2002 7:01:22 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: gcruse
Actually that says it pretty well. Like homosexuality, you must think someone else's beliefs are pretty odious if you are going to go to such offensive lengths to drive it out of them.

I don't think that says it well at all. The Messianic Jews are not driving their beliefs out (asking rabbinical Jews to abandon their Jewish roots). And their proselytizing does not have a sinister motive behind it, either.

As for offensive lengths, how "offensive" is the following conversation/technique?:

(knock knock)
(Jewish person opens door)
Jew for Jesus (JFJ): Hi, I'd like to tell you about the Messiah, Jesus Christ.
Jew: No, thank you. I'm not interested.
JFJ: Well, here's my card. Please call me if you ever change your mind.

What would really be offensive is if the JFJ came to the door and said, "Accept Jesus right now, or you're burning in Hell, you filthy Jew!" If he/she said that, not only would they be a bad evangelist, but I doubt they would get any converts.

One more thing. It is not possible to correctly equate homosexuality with being Jewish; they are light years apart. God never condemned being a Jew as a sin from which one should repent.

55 posted on 09/15/2002 7:02:03 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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To: jstone78
Why don't you start out with the Islamic communities and let us know how it goes. You don't want to leave them out if you're so worried about discrimination and the sCAIR movement.
56 posted on 09/15/2002 7:04:03 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: OldFriend

Like it or not, the Old Testament says no such thing.

For starters:

 
Zechariah
Chapter 10
 
1: The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2: Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3: And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

4: In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
5: And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
6: In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
7: The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
8: In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
9: And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
10: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
11: In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
12: And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
13: The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
14: All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

57 posted on 09/15/2002 7:04:50 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: MarkL; jstone78
Since one of the main tenants of the Jewish religion is believing that the Messiah hasn't arrived yet, I don't really see how these diverging requirements can co-exist.

I'm no expert on what the main tenets of Judaism are, so I will accept your claim that this is one of the main tenets of Judaism.

But jstone78 made the point -- which I believe is correct -- that a "Jew" can be an atheist, and nevertheless be accepted as a Jew, whereas a "Jew" who accepts Christianity is not accepted as a Jew. Is it really true that belief in God is not a main tenet of Judaism in the same way that belief that the Messiah has not yet come is? If true, it does seem mighty peculiar.

58 posted on 09/15/2002 7:05:12 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Sans-Culotte
How would you like it, if the homosexual community made it a practice to gather in large numbers in your neighborhood, and handed out pro gay literature to everyone they saw? Since this would undoubtedly go against your beliefs, you might not like this.

If homosexuals decided to handout fliers stating that you must engage in a homosexual lifestyle then it would not be a problem just refuse the flier and walk away. The same goes for any group wanting to convert you to anything. However acusing these groups who engaging in a peaceful activites and making them into neo-nazis is discusting.
59 posted on 09/15/2002 7:08:15 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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To: nmh; CanadianFella
CanadianFella may have a point. As far as I know, the Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament (like Daniel, Isaiah, Micah, etc.) speak of the First Coming of Christ, while the Gospels and Epistles of the New Testament talk about the Second Coming.

But I'm not an expert. If I'm wrong, please let me know.
60 posted on 09/15/2002 7:08:23 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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