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Reno Update: Broward County Now Reports Uncounted Votes
AP ^ | 9/15/02

Posted on 09/15/2002 3:44:26 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

By Associated Press


September 15, 2002, 5:32 AM EDT

MIAMI --

Election workers in Janet Reno's stronghold of Broward County have found uncounted votes from last week's primary, though officials didn't say how many.

The votes were found Saturday in a precinct that first reported no votes, said Willie Weslie, project manager with Election Systems & Software Inc., which made the touchscreen voting machines used in the county.

That precinct, with 832 registered voters, was among 247 that Reno has asked officials to review in her battle with Bill McBride for the Democratic nomination.

"I don't know what happened in every case. I just know 1/8poll workers 3/8 had procedures and didn't follow them," said Weslie.

Weslie said poll workers in the precinct should have inserted a cartridge in the machines, which would have collected the votes when polls closed. But they did not, he said, so the empty cartridge made it appear that no votes were cast.

Workers examined touchscreen voting machines until shortly after 7 p.m. Saturday, and were expected to continue Sunday. The deadline for counties to report official vote tallies to the state is 5 p.m. Tuesday.

Election Supervisor Miriam Oliphant's office would not discuss the uncounted votes.

"Once the process is complete, the supervisor of elections will have a statement with respect to that and every other issue her office feels is necessary to assure the voters of Broward County that every vote will be counted," said spokesman Rick Riley.

Reno trailed McBride by 8,196 votes in unofficial counts from the state. The 247 precincts she asked to be reviewed have 15,841 voters.

Reno has also asked Miami-Dade County officials to check for lost votes. Officials there found more than 1,800 uncounted votes from four precincts Thursday, and were reviewing touchscreen voting machines to determine if more were unreported.

Miami and Broward counties used the same touchscreen machines made by Election Systems & Software.

Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press


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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Weslie said poll workers in the precinct should have inserted a cartridge in the machines, which would have collected the votes when polls closed. But they did not, he said, so the empty cartridge made it appear that no votes were cast.

"Hold muh beer while I snap a pitcher with muh lens cover on"

21 posted on 09/15/2002 4:52:15 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
These votes should not count. The incompetence of the poll workers should not be rewarded. More likely, this was done on purporse and the tainted votes have been "held in reserve" until such time that they would be needed. This should not be allowed to be and the poll workers in question should be jailed and put on trial for vote tampering.

Such a trial would help ensure that votes never "go missing" again.

22 posted on 09/15/2002 4:57:55 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: nicmarlo
FYI-Broward County

$17.3 million for new voting machines.

An annual budget of $5.3 million.

A permanant staff of 62.

Responsible for 2 elections bi-annually.

A Supervisors salary of $127,000 pa.

Three ways of recording each vote.

1. The transferable cartridge.

2. A paper print out.

3. An internal hard disk.

They have tried it all,losing cartridges, tearing serial no's off the machines, hiding the machines among the tallied devices,running the cartridges thru multiple times and all these are being caught. Expect a warehouse fire in November.

23 posted on 09/15/2002 5:01:14 AM PDT by ijcr
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To: ovrtaxt
Jeb doesn't have the authority to replace county supervisors of elections because of incompetence. Only if they were indicted for some malfeasance in office could the governor take action. That's because the position of supervisor of elections is an elected office constitutionally mandated by the state.

In other words, the incompetent democratic voters of south Florida have elected equally incompetent officials to "supervise" their elections. Jeb is off the hook on this, because he has neither the authority nor the responsibility for the election process.

24 posted on 09/15/2002 5:04:55 AM PDT by jpthomas
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To: ijcr
They have tried it all,losing cartridges, tearing serial no's off the machines, hiding the machines among the tallied devices,running the cartridges thru multiple times and all these are being caught. Expect a warehouse fire in November.

I'm glad they're getting caught....they are now in the national eye. Since Chad Gore, it's no longer "local" secrets. And, yes, I am definitely expecting something come November. I only pray that those who are watching (hopefully, some who have nothing but credibility on their foreheads), print it.

25 posted on 09/15/2002 5:10:08 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Illbay
THEY think they somehow made political points in 2000, that other, rational minds actually agree with them.

I don't think they realize how they are the butt of jokes throughout the Union, because they are perceived as this stupid--again.

They also think we have short memories....but Chad Gore shall live in infamy, as does their scheming ...... they are more than "stupid," they are fools.

26 posted on 09/15/2002 5:13:03 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The Democrat Vote Fraud Team is testing all aspects of the new machines and new procedures so that they can manipulate them in November and subsequent elections so that only Democrats will get the most votes.
27 posted on 09/15/2002 5:16:47 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Obviously there needs to be a help desk for Florida elections. "Press 1 if you understand this, press 2 if you dont ..."
28 posted on 09/15/2002 5:22:28 AM PDT by Bernard
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Betch none of them are military votes.

Democrats can't find a dumpster fast enough for them.

29 posted on 09/15/2002 5:22:38 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Whats especially frightening is that now the Dems don't even need to steel vote punchers...now they only need to swap cartridges for the new machines. At least paper balots have a "trail" .
30 posted on 09/15/2002 5:23:43 AM PDT by OldDominion
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Fraud. Simple and coersed FRAUD. The poll workers committed it, the county supervisors back-alley approved of it and the voting machines resisted it.

Torn tabulation receipts, early closure of polls for various reasons (including a workers shutting one down to go to a club meeting), uncounted and unretrieved vote totals, etc. etc.

Voters are not screaming they made mistakes while voting this time around. Voters are not screaming about misguided and complicated score cards. The problems reported are all tabulation problems.

This time it's all on the county elections supervisors and every RAT from Alcee Hastings to Terry Mcawful is 100% behind the election supervisors of each of the 3 south Fla counties under siege.

FRAUD! The voting machines were just to complicated to rig, so they invented problems. Oliphant from Broward was outted for incompetence and partisanship problems long before Sept. She should be tarred and feathered and sent to Cuba!
31 posted on 09/15/2002 5:27:47 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: dawn53; All
Maybe ya'll can get together & decide
which bad guy--Reno or McBride--is
gaming the system to steal the chance
to run against Jeb. It can't be that
Dems for McBride AND Reno made voting
machines mess up to cheat the other.
Somebody, on behalf of Janet or Bill,
did this. OR, the Dems ALL did it to
scream that it's Jeb's fault. I don't
claim the answer, but really, posters
on here are contradicting each other.
Who cheated who? Who knows? Or is it
just stupidity & incompetence, for
which they lyingly blame Jeb?
32 posted on 09/15/2002 5:36:29 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Anyone remember this?

Florida Election Officials Get Ready

July 28, 2002

By Ken Thomas Associated Press

Sunrise, Florida - To Miriam Oliphant, the keys to life and elections are the same: preparation and organization.

These days the Broward County election supervisor is all about details - 60 classes a week for county poll workers, an inventory of iVotronic voting machines stacked in a warehouse, even blue aprons for precinct clerks that will hold the all-important computer-card keys needed to operate the machines.

"I am going to do everything I possibly can to correct a system that has been broken," Oliphant said. "We know change is long overdue in Broward County."

Across the nation, election officials are entering crunch time in their first major test since the confusion of Election Day 2000. They are pumping up voter education, improving training for poll workers, and placing a premium on details that might have been overlooked in the past.

Twenty-four states hold primaries in August and September. Among them, Florida and 10 others conduct their primaries Sept. 10.

Florida, infamous for hanging chads on punch-card ballots, was the focal point of the protracted 2000 presidential battle that ended with George W. Bush beating Al Gore by just 537 votes in the state.

Florida lawmakers approved a series of reforms last year, including outlawing punch-card ballots and authorizing $32 million for new equipment and voter education.

Among Florida counties, Broward's efforts at improvements are drawing attention because the county has nearly one million registered voters, the most in the state, and features a diverse population of elderly, suburban dwellers and Spanish- and Creole-speaking voters.

Since taking over 18 months ago, Oliphant has initiated a flurry of innovations.

To introduce voters to the new ATM-style, touch-screen voting machines, Oliphant has held demonstrations at supermarkets and community centers. She is borrowing 144 phone lines from Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale to handle calls from confused workers and voters on Election Day.

And to recruit 6,000 poll workers, Oliphant has tapped corporations and county employees with backgrounds in customer service and technology. Public employees who volunteer as poll workers will receive a paid day off plus $100 for working the 14-hour day.

"We truly cannot think of a more responsible, patriotic thing to do than to be involved in the election process on the eve of 9/11," said Bob Cantrell, who runs the county's poll worker operation.

At a four-hour training class for poll workers in Sunrise, Leroy Mattear and nine others got hands-on training on the new machines and voting procedures.

Two years ago, his training session held about 500 poll workers, many of whom chatted casually or left the hall at their leisure, Mattear said. "Now it's like school," he said.

Elsewhere in Florida, Hillsborough County elections chief Pam Iorio has held nearly 400 road shows to display the new technology, but she says many supervisors are still worried.

"There's a concern among supervisors that any little bump along the way will be exaggerated because it's Florida," Iorio said

It's evident Miriam Oliphant isn't just another pretty face. She's a Democrat!

33 posted on 09/15/2002 5:37:31 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: G.Mason
Don't know about you but I'm tired of Broward's attempts to hijack the rest of the nation. Assheads need to stop with the bs electioneering.
34 posted on 09/15/2002 5:41:51 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
You give the dims far too much credit. Imagine the stupidest people you have ever met. Multiply that stupidity by a factor of 2. The poll workers and the dim voters in these counties are drawn from that gene pool. They aren't smart enough to devise a conspiracy to discredit Jeb. I doubt that these people are smart enough to clean themselves.
35 posted on 09/15/2002 5:42:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Bernard
ROFL! Yeah. The people running the booths need to be led by the hand like children:

"This is the enter button. It is spelled, E,N,T,E,R. You take your finger, yes, that's a finger, and push on the Enter Button. No, not your nose. No, your nose is not linked with the computer system. No, don't eat that... This is a cartridge. Yes. This thingie in my hand. I said... cart-ridge. No, I said, CART-RIDGE. Yes. You need to... no. Don't put the cartridge in your mouth...

All I can say is, don't trust these guys with play-dough.

36 posted on 09/15/2002 5:47:56 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Ugh!

Good post, thanx.

37 posted on 09/15/2002 5:53:30 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: AmericaUnited
You said, "A lot of these people make rocks look like MENSA candidates, so I do believe they just screwed up with no devious motives." I do NOT agree! Florida and national democrats desperately want Reno out of the race. This voting snafu, if not planned, is certainly welcomed by democrats.

Florida politics have been corrupt since forever, it just went unnoticed and unreported as long as there was a democrat governor running the corruption. Remember Lawton Chiles? Here's a Pat Caddell quote to back me up:

"“I’m a liberal Democrat. I started in Florida politics. I worked for George McGovern. I worked for Jimmy Carter. I’ve worked for Ted Kennedy, Mario Cuomo. Nobody can question, I think, my credentials and my convictions. But I have to tell you, at this point, it’s hard to believe, but my party, the party that [my family has] belonged to since my great-great-grandfather … has become no longer a party of principles, but has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters who need to take power by whatever means and whatever canards they can.” " These words were spoken by Patrick Caddell on Chris Matthews’ Hardball, on November 27, 2000.

"http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=1067

I remember this November 2000 show. Caddell went on and on describing long standing south Florida corruption,

38 posted on 09/15/2002 6:17:48 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: AmericaUnited; oldglory; Luke FReeman; MinuteGal; 3D-JOY; gonzo; Seeking the truth; dorben
"I do believe they just screwed up with no devious motives."

Don't ever underestimate the enemy.

Marxist DemocRATS are criminal mentality snakes. You have to try to think like a snake and anticipate their next ten moves or you'll get bit.

The "stupid party" usually doesn't do that and when they get blindsided they always wondered what happened.

One of the things I like about Dubya is that he is a guuuuuuuud snake handler. When you're a good snake handler --- it's the snakes that get blindsided. LOL

39 posted on 09/15/2002 6:20:55 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: byteback
Sure the voters are all socialist dimmies but they still deserve to vote.

I disagree. If they are not smart enough to operate these simple devices, they likely are not capable of understanding what they are voting about.

40 posted on 09/15/2002 6:24:00 AM PDT by OldPossum
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