Strange parallel

The Iranian ^ | September 12, 2002 | Ramin Tork

[glorygirl]

I came upon this article almost by accident.

I think it is a good illustration of how certain factions in the Middle East could twist some of the mysteries surrounding the OKC Bombing to their own advantage. Perhaps it will also illustrate why the investigation into the OKC Bombing should not remain a "closed book."

The reference links, posted at the bottom, are interesting as well.

[glorygirl]

ping

[Zon]

Like most of you my heart goes out to the family of the victims and in fact for all humanity, because 9/11 was a very sad day for all those who believe in a modern civilized democratic society that thrives free from fear.

But let us look at this issue...

But what!?

I always get a kick out of it when a writer negates what he just wrote by saying "but".

[tubebender]

Bump...

[TXnMA]

4. Presence of Israeli Intelligence Service in a van at the scene of the event. What were they doing there? What did they know?

Anyone know anything about a Mossad van at Murrah on 4/19/95? It's news to me...

Thanks,

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

[norton]

Please don't ask me,
I was choking and ready to hurl long before I got to that bit...
"...there is 911 in ...911, 01900, 9011, 1911, 1119. 1219, ...."

Time for a sick puppy alert!

[eno_]

Never heard of it either. Sounds like one of those "everybody in Iran knows this" kinds of things. Just this side of the Mossad remote-controlling the 9/11 flights.

The put options actions WAS real. And if they can figure out Martha Stewart was shorting Imclone, they should be able to nail the people shorting UAL and AMR on 9/10. But I haven't heard a damn thing about it.

[Misterioso]

I believe, in the context of the article, he is still referring to 9/11. But the presence of the Mossad, if it is even true, is not evidence of the type of plot this guy is dreaming of. Oh wait, I guess it is. Gotta put on my Muslim towel to interpret this guy.

[Cindy]

Links of Interest:

APRIL 19, 1995: ALFRED P. MURRAH BUILDING, OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING

NewsMax.com: "IRAQ LINKED TO 9-11 AND OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING" by Wes Vernon (090902)

stepping back in time...FAS.org -Article Snippet from the Counterterrorism section: "A February 26, 1993, explosion in the WTC's parking garage resulted in 6 deaths and 1,042 injuries. The blast, caused by a bomb made of about 1,200 pounds of explosives, resulted in a five-story crater with damage of over $500 million. On March 4, 1994, Muhammad Amin Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmud Abouhalima, and Ahmed Ajaj were convicted for their roles in the bombing. On April 25, 1994, each received a 240-year prison term and a $500,000 fine. Also, money they may receive from interviews or books must be turned over to the families of the six people killed in the bombing. Salameh's roommate, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, also was found to be involved in the conspiracy. However, he left this country for Pakistan the day after the bombing on board a Pakistan International Airlines flight. On February 7, 1995, Yousef, a "Top Ten" fugitive, was arrested in Pakistan and was then turned over to the FBI."

[Valin]

But it's in an Iranian newspaper therefore it must be true. I mean they wouldn't lie...would they?

[Plummz]

That doesn't appear to be a reference to Murrah, but rather, to the Israeli "movers" who had maps of the targets in their car and were cheering and snapping photos of the WTC op.

[schmelvin]

From the article: In the case of the American right, it is the free path of the American forefathers and as for the Islamic fundamentalists it is the pure Islamic society, which lives by Sharia law to the last letter ruled by a Khalif and follows the Wahhabite sect, and both groups are quite willing to sacrifice innocent lives in order to achieve their aim.

Both groups??? True, thousands of Islamic fundamentalists have thought nothing of sacrificing innocent lives all around the world in order to achieve their goals. But, are we supposed to believe the American Right equally embraces the slaughter of innocents the way Islamic terrorists do based solely on the actions of one man: Timothy McVeigh? I don't think so!

Are American militia members infiltrating countries in the Middle East and flying planes into buildings located in Saudi Arabia and Iran? I don't think so!

Is the author of this article trying to say that since there's evidence that Islamic fundamentalists may have worked with Timothy McVeigh in the Oklahoma bombing that then surely American militia members must have worked with Atta and his gang to help them pull off the WTC and Pentagon attacks? What a load of cr@p!

Last I heard, McVeigh tried to join a militia group and got thrown out on his butt. How quaint that the author of this piece lumps the militia, the American Right, the NRA & gun owners into one menacing group. (Are you sure Hillary didn't write this?) The author seems to do a lot of this actually: sloppily lumping people into the same category. Let's see how this works: Islamic fundamentalists who kill innocents are terrorists. McVeigh did the same so he's a terrorist. (No problem so far. But then...) McVeigh was a Right-Winger so Right-Wingers are terrorists. Right-Wingers like guns so gun owners are terrorists. (So, by this thinking if it can be proven that people who like cookies tend to like guns, then people who eat cookies are terrorists? Oh, OK.)

Now, all we need is a van full of Israelis lurking in the shadows and we'll have a perfect Muslim fairy tale. Oops, wait a minute...

[wita]

I think you summed it up pretty well. I saw "Iranian" in the header, but it took the author almost the whole article to spill the beans, he was one. I loved the reference to my terrorist leanings. This from an Iranian?

[glorygirl]

This is why I posted the thread.

Of course, with quotes like the following from Salon.com, (supposedly used as a reference)..you can see from where the inference is drawn:

"There is a common ideological thread that runs from Timothy McVeigh to bedrock Republicanism, and the shared emotional leitmotif of that ideology is anger. What distinguishes America's worst domestic terrorist from Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay and George W. Bush is the intensity of that anger"

[paul51]

I cannot verify if what I have just stated is from a reliable source

OK

[backhoe]

Darn it! My PC crashed 2 days ago, and I keep getting it up long enough to look around here and see so much that needs to be transmitted aross the 'net... but I can't do it!

Want to tell lots of people about this? Go here:

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for links, tools, & instructions about how to contact a pile of different people, and how to send a link to this story right here ( or anywhere else ) to a "mass email" using Outlook Express.

[thinden]

That doesn't appear to be a reference to Murrah, but rather, to the Israeli "movers" who had maps of the targets in their car and were cheering and snapping photos of the WTC op.

I concur w/ Plummz.

[thinden]

I'd bet this one is prolly "on the clock"

[TigersEye]

"What distinguishes America's worst domestic terrorist from Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay and George W. Bush is the intensity of that anger"

These vapor brained leftists have no idea how widespread and intense that anger is going to be once the veil is pulled off of their utopian socialist dreams. Underneath the wool sheeple are people. Sooner or later their greedy fleecing will get to the wool over the sheeples eyes.

[TigersEye]

...has a very twisted view of "liberty" defined in almost purely negative terms, as freedom from external interference of any kind,...

I got lost in his cut-and-paste style of writing. Was he still referring to T. McVeigh here or our twisted Founding Fathers? /sarcasm