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Warm words for bin Laden as Muslim fundamentalists gather
Yahoo!.News via DrudgeReport.Com ^ | Wed Sep 11, 2:18 PM ET | By DONNA ABU-NASR, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 09/11/2002 1:08:14 PM PDT by Bobby777

LONDON - As much of the world paused Wednesday to mourn the victims of the Sept. 11 attacks, a group of Islamic militants gathered to discuss the "positive outcomes" of the violence they claim to reject, and to praise the aims of Osama bin Laden ( news - web sites).

Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammed of the radical group Al-Muhajiroun said the meeting at Finsbury Park Mosque, titled "Sept. 11, 2001: A Towering Day in History," argues that the attacks were justified because Muslims must defend themselves against armed aggression.

Al-Muhajiroun says its goal is to make Britain an Islamic state.

The Syrian-born Mohammed had warm words for bin Laden and the al-Qaida network, though he said he disagreed with their violent tactics.

"Nobody loves them but the believers, nobody hates them but the hypocrites," Mohammed said.

"I don't believe in using violence, but Muslims have the right to defend themselves," Mohammed told journalists before the meeting.

A dozen or so men with kaffiyehs over their faces stood on the steps of the north London mosque, barring about 50 journalists from entering.

Mohammed said the meeting was not associated with al-Qaida.

"We don't know who they are. We share the same beliefs, the same divine texts, we pray in the same direction to Mecca, we share the same purpose of life and objectives, but we don't share their structure or their method," Mohammed said.

"Definitely al-Qaida has got rational justification for what they did on Sept. 11. Maybe I disagree with them, but they have the right to fight back especially after they (the United States) bombed Sudan, then they bombed Afghanistan ( news - web sites)."

The United States in 1998 launched a cruise missile strike on a Sudanese pharmaceutical plant suspected of making chemical weapons. The attack was retaliation for the bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, linked by U.S. officials to al-Qaida.

Abu Hamza al-Masri, a cleric at the Finsbury Park mosque, said this Sept. 11 "is not a day of rejoicing."

"It's a day of thinking and rethinking and getting the message out. I know many Muslims are oppressed. This is not a day to celebrate," said al-Masri.

The Egyptian-born cleric, who lost his hands and left eye fighting the former Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan, is a prayer leader at the mosque, and denies supporting terrorism.

Al-Masri is wanted in Yemen on terror charges, and his funds were frozen by the U.S. Treasury for his alleged membership in the Islamic Army of Aden. That organization is linked to al-Qaida and claimed responsibility for the bombing of the USS Cole ( news - web sites) in Yemen in October 2000, in which 17 American sailors were killed.

He has had British citizenship since 1985, and is protected by British law from extradition to Yemen.

Al-Masri said the meeting had a message for U.S. President George W. Bush ( news - web sites).

"We are telling that crazy man to stop. Don't use the war beyond your borders," al-Masri said.

In a statement on its Web site, al-Muhajiroun said the event aimed at "analyzing and highlighting the lessons which can be derived from the incident" and the subsequent shifts in relationships between Muslims and non-Muslims and between nations.

"The event will discuss the positive outcomes from the 11th September not least of which is the clear crystallization of the two camps of Islam and Kufr (non-Islam), of believers and hypocrites and of those who follow the Messenger Muhammad and his companions (the salafis) and those deviant from this path," the statement said.

The meeting a smattering of protests.

A dozen people apparently opposed to al-Muhajiroun demonstrated on one side of the street. "Keep Britain out of foreign wars, keep foreign wars out of Britain," said a banner which bore the logo of the anti-immigrant the British National Party.

Opposite that group was a counter-demonstration mounted by about 30 Anti-Nazi League, chanting "Nazi scum, off our streets!"


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KEYWORDS: 911; islam; osama; terror; terrorism; waronterror; wtc
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To: Hammerhead
On a float trip in 1989 it was my turn to teach the Sunday School class ... I mentioned that the number of mosques going up indicated the danger of America going into captivity just like Israel did in 2nd Kings 17:7-27 prior to the Assyrian and Babylonian captivity ...

all I got back were a bunch of blank stares like deer looking into the headlights ... except for one guy who was an "all roads lead to God" philosophy-based guy ... I hope we can wake this country up before it starts being consumed like Great Britain ...
21 posted on 09/11/2002 1:44:49 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: river rat
I have a theory as to why the Islamic moderates have not condemned the acts of 9-11.

They are well aware just how dangerous and prevalent the radicals are here in the United States. And, they are terrified to say anything.
22 posted on 09/11/2002 1:47:37 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: Bobby777; MadIvan

Someone explain to me why the Brittish government doesn't expel these scum and deport them to where they originated? Inquiring minds want to know.


23 posted on 09/11/2002 1:49:33 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Cacique
I think they already have strong political influence over there ... politicians desperate for votes kowtow ... which is why we have to continue to keep traitor scumbags like Cynthia McKinney out of office ... hehe ... (sorry little celebrating her defeat ... maybe she can move in with the Saudi prince)
24 posted on 09/11/2002 1:55:55 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: GoldMan
Have this delivered a few minutes earlier.

And, include a nice message in the card.

25 posted on 09/11/2002 1:58:46 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: cmsgop; Libertina
Hey, did you hear what Ron Sims was saying at the memorial here in Seattle today? ( sorry, off topic slightly)

Something like - to those children who are in the sex slave trade, we are coming. to those children who are ..... can't remember the parts here, ( was still shocked by the comment about the sex slave trade), to those children who are neglected, abused, we are coming. To those children without clean water, vaccines, etc. we are coming.

Then, he inserted us into the Battle Hymn of the Republic, as in we are loosing our terrible swift sword, which I found somewhat shocking.

So was this a battle cry to go after Iraq, or what???

I think he is losing it.

26 posted on 09/11/2002 2:02:58 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Barnacle
But First:


Semper Fi
27 posted on 09/11/2002 2:06:26 PM PDT by river rat
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To: MarMema
LOL!!!!!

You can always count on Simms for a Laugh.

He is turning tail because of his relationship with that Terrorist. (Forget his name)
28 posted on 09/11/2002 2:10:04 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: MarMema
Hi MarMema, I missed this, but it's better than what I would expect him to say. Because I'm pretty tired of "tragedy" and "getting along" and "religion of peace."
29 posted on 09/11/2002 2:17:46 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: Cacique
Someone explain to me why the American government doesn't expel these scum and deport them to where they originated?

They're here too you know.
30 posted on 09/11/2002 2:21:13 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: MadelineZapeezda
"... first boznia...then..."
...Germany
...France
...UK
...USA
In their dream, because they're gonna get what they deserve within week(s). Let's "jihad" them in return, those cowards that lie and hide their ugly faces.
31 posted on 09/11/2002 2:32:58 PM PDT by Drknows
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To: Cacique

Someone explain to me why the British (and the American) government doesn't expel these scum and deport them to where they originated? Inquiring minds want to know.

Maybe they're keeping them around so we'll have an enemy. You can't fight a War on Terror without an enemy.

Also, they help get big budgets passed in Congress for vastily increased police forces, airport scanners, and large military procurements.

The Islamist terrorsts helped pass the Patriot Act in the USA and the TerrorAct in the UK.

There are dozens of reasons why the Govt. looks the other way when they see terrorists in our midst.

32 posted on 09/11/2002 2:35:25 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: Barnacle
Of course I would ask that question of our government as well. However, the article was about the Islamofascists in brittain.
33 posted on 09/11/2002 2:35:51 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Cacique
I understand. That was not a criticism of your post, just a take-off of your worthwhile point.
34 posted on 09/11/2002 2:53:04 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: Bobby777
Wouldn't you love to see a bunch of blue collar british soccer hooligans go through the park and mop up the gutter with these towel heads?
35 posted on 09/11/2002 3:00:43 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know
well, first as a Christian I would love to see them come to the knowledge of the Truth and convert others like them ...

if, however, they were on their way to "jihad" another airplane or restaurant or disco, etc. then a bit of soccer-style intervention would be a most welcome site to be sure ... stay safe ...
36 posted on 09/11/2002 3:11:49 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: cmsgop
Yassir Arafat is the spiritual father of many of these types ...
37 posted on 09/11/2002 3:54:09 PM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
WARM WORDS???

How bout... "WELCOME TO HELL BOYS!!!" for starters???
38 posted on 09/11/2002 5:00:29 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Libertina; cmsgop
Yeah but Simms was way out of touch, it was wierd. You could see people shifting uncomfortably in the audience because what he was saying was so inappropriate.

He began by talking for some time about his mother being ill and hospitalized. Too long. About his childhood and his mother. Then suddenly, bang, switcheroo, and here comes the sex slave trade thing. After that he does the Battle Hymn threats, then announces that we are second to none in the world, and that's it. No heroes or losses, no tributes, nothing on topic.

It was really really off. They have the video of the Westlake program on the website at KIRO 7. I want to hear from others who saw it. Too bizarre. I think he needs help.

39 posted on 09/11/2002 5:39:20 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Bobby777
Al-Muhajiroun says its goal is to make Britain an Islamic state.

America will be next. Islam has no intention of destroying the Great Satan; they are going to colonize us, instead. Bank on it.



40 posted on 09/11/2002 6:23:41 PM PDT by who knows what evil?
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