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City May Outlaw Sniper Gun Sales
Los Angeles Daily News | 09-11-2002

Posted on 09/11/2002 6:48:26 AM PDT by boris

Los Angeles City Councilman Mark Ridley-Thomas on Tuesday introduced a motion to ban the sale of .50-caliber sniper rifles in Los Angeles.

The proposal, which will be considered by the council next week, has the support of six other council members.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol
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To: A CA Guy
Unless yu are hunting armor wearing deer, you don't need piercing bullets.

I'm not talking about hunting.

You come off sounding like a Libertarian trying to justify illegal drugs when you want piercing bullets. As far as most guns, I don't care at all.

What about .300 Win Mag? Good for elk and they zip right through a bullet proof vest. "Most" rifles are armor piercing. You come off as someone who believes the government should have a monopoly on the use of force.

Remember the "cop killer" bullet scare? Remember how many cops were killed with them? Zero, right? Interestingly, the public was previously unaware that most cops wear vests...After the AP bullet fiasco, criminals started shooting for the head.

The automatic type, piercing bullets do bother me. The sniper kind should go to liscences qualified hunters and re-sale should be the same as well.

Sorry pal, AP is still legally sold in the US as are your dreaded sniper rifles (bolt action rifles). Tell you what, you want my bolt gun or my battle carbine, YOU come and get them. Don't take the cowards way out and sent somebody else's kid to come register or confiscate them. YOU personally come and take them. You're going to have to kill me and my family and my friends and their families. There are eighty million gun owners in this country and even if 1% feel the way I do, you are going to have one giant seething problem on your hands. Not all Americans roll over on their backs and wet themselves like puppies when confronted by thugs. Bring it on!

Those have too much potential to kill folks in a terrorists hands.

You don't use guns to kill people in large numbers. Fertilizer or a gun free environment like an airliner are far, far more destructive than guns. To say nothing about all the bio-nasties floating around the FSU and Central Asia these days.

Just how I feel. I'm just one person though.

Emphasis on the word feel instead of think. And you're not just one person you're part of the increasingly senseless mobocracy who thinks basic human rights are subject to their whims.

I'm all for the NRA and the right to bare arms.

No you're not. You seem to think that licensed, registered deer hunters are the only people who have any right to arms.

Wouldn't qualify a bazooka or cannon under that right either though. There is limits on everything for you but the air you breath.

Go find someone with a 20mm Solothurn. Squeeze off a few. If you're not smiling there's fundamentally wrong with you.

161 posted on 09/14/2002 8:10:18 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
See my 159
162 posted on 09/14/2002 8:14:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: AdamSelene235
I'm all for the NRA and the right to bare arms.

No you're not.

Yes I am, get a grip. You are a bit zealous here!

163 posted on 09/14/2002 8:20:46 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Yes I am, get a grip. You are a bit zealous here!

No you're not. You're a power-tripping mobocrat who thinks your feelings trump my rights.

This is personal. Don't just pull a lever in a little box to destroy my freedoms. You come do it personally.

164 posted on 09/14/2002 8:29:17 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: umgud
BMG = Browning Machine Gun

The MAN himself:


John Moses Browning
American icon

165 posted on 09/14/2002 8:34:29 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: AdamSelene235
People trying to carry us down the slippery slope really don't seem to realize there is a significant subset of Americans who would shoot back before letting their arms be taken away.
166 posted on 09/14/2002 8:42:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: AdamSelene235
Like I said, we all have the rights up to a point.

Things like shouting fire in a theater isn't a right.
Driving under the influence is not a right.
Getting "any" form of arms you wish isn't a total right either.

Most arms are legal though.
167 posted on 09/14/2002 8:44:28 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Like I said, we all have the rights up to a point. Most arms are legal though.

You seem unaware of the onslaught and draconian enforcement of ten of thousands of contradictory federal,state,municipal firearms laws in this country. A couple of threads on a tube or a bayonett lug is considered far worse than rape these days.

How many more phonebooks full of gun laws will it take until you feel safe.

We passed the point of reasonable restriction long ago. Gun bigotry has become reflexive for many Americans. We are on the same road Britian and Austrailia took.

... The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus.

168 posted on 09/14/2002 8:57:43 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
Oh, I don't believe many guns should be restricted at all.

Many time government can go too far.
169 posted on 09/14/2002 9:10:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: FreedomPoster; A CA Guy
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People trying to carry us down the slippery slope really don't seem to realize there is a significant subset of Americans who would shoot back before letting their arms be taken away.

Useful idiots, banning their way to serfdom in hopes of reaching utopia.

I have numerous intellectual justifications for the most basic human right of self defense. But when these freedom haters get intoxicated by the power of their mobocracy its best just to explain things on a personal level. They're used to letting their automatic payroll deduction do their dirty work. I for one have had enough.

Molon Labe.

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170 posted on 09/14/2002 9:10:57 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
Be careful, if you come across like a Libertarian when you post you won't be taken seriously.
171 posted on 09/14/2002 9:13:42 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
Explain please, liberal
172 posted on 09/15/2002 7:27:28 AM PDT by FSPress
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To: A CA Guy
But if you come across as a liberal republican around here you will be taken seriously?
173 posted on 09/15/2002 7:29:40 AM PDT by FSPress
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To: glock rocks
yup. next it will be those nasty 30 caliber sniper rifles, you know the remington bdl, etc...

And after that, it will be those nasty unsafe Glocks with no safeties. We're doing it for our kids, don't you know.

174 posted on 09/15/2002 7:33:36 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: A CA Guy
Answer the questions
175 posted on 09/15/2002 7:34:09 AM PDT by FSPress
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To: Bringbackthedraft
One accidental round going off can go through several homes. There is no need to have this kind of a large caliber HP weapon in a large city.

I seriously doubt that the owner of such a fine weapon would be playing with live rounds in his living room. Can you provide us with a reference to ANY accidental discharges from a .50 BMG rifle? Or to any reference where one was used in the commission of a crime?

176 posted on 09/15/2002 7:34:13 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Euro-American Scum
No, they are doing if for their own hides. They even infest the left wing of the republican party. Check out #159
177 posted on 09/15/2002 7:38:54 AM PDT by FSPress
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To: FSPress
Forgot the </ sarcasm> tag. Sorry.
178 posted on 09/15/2002 7:43:50 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: boris
Can these be sold in California anyway? All the ones I've seen have the pistol-type grip, which, along with being center-fire, would make them 'assault weapons' under CA law, wouldn't it?
179 posted on 09/15/2002 8:04:02 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: boris
O.K. now they've gone and done it. Now we've never know who actually buys one of these babys. But buying one on the black market is half the fun of it, would'nt you say.



180 posted on 09/15/2002 8:11:54 AM PDT by hosepipe
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