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Reno, McBride in Close Fla. Race (Reno Might Pull An Algore Over The Same Counties)
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | September 11, 2002 | ROBERT TANNER

Posted on 09/11/2002 4:24:06 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

MIAMI (AP) - Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Janet Reno ( news - web sites) narrowly trailed a surprisingly strong opponent Tuesday in a Florida election marred by problems with the state's new election system, while two-term New Hampshire Sen. Bob Smith lost a bitter GOP primary battle to Rep. John Sununu ( news, bio, voting record). Both the closeness of the Florida race and widespread complaints at many state polling places eerily echoed Florida's 2000 election, which left the presidential race in limbo for weeks.

Early Wednesday, glitches sent police to seven precincts in Miami-Dade County to pick up electronic voting machine cartridges, so voting officials could try to determine how many ballots went uncounted.

Broward County, which was favoring Reno by a better than 2-1 margin, suspended the ballot count just before 5 a.m. with 93 percent of the votes tallied and the race too close to call. Workers planned to resume the count at 9 a.m. Wednesday.

Reno's campaign warned it would consider contesting the Democratic primary results as she trailed by 2 percent of votes cast.

In New Hampshire, Smith became the first elected senator to lose a primary in a decade after angering many fellow Republicans by briefly quitting the party three years ago to run for president as an independent.

In the race for Jesse Helms's Senate seat in North Carolina, Republican Elizabeth Dole ( news - web sites) will face Democrat Erskine Bowles, former chief of staff in the Clinton administration, in a contest that figures prominently in the battle for control of the Senate.

In a third crucial race for the fall, Democratic Sen. Paul Wellstone and Republican Norm Coleman easily won their primaries in Minnesota.

In Florida, Tampa lawyer Bill McBride had 589,512 votes, or 45 percent, with 94 percent of precincts reporting; Reno had 568,827, or 43 percent.

In New Hampshire, Sununu had 79,812, or 53 percent, to Smith's 66,773, or 45 percent, with 95 percent of precincts reporting.

In North Carolina, Dole got 339,748 votes, or 80 percent, with 99 percent of precincts reporting. Bowles, a Charlotte investment banker, had 272,015 votes, or 43 percent. His nearest challenger, state Rep. Dan Blue, had 178,210, or 28 percent.

Elsewhere, voters in 12 states determined fall lineups for six open governor's offices, three of the most competitive Senate seats and a few House seats that could influence control of Congress and the shape of the next two years of President Bush ( news - web sites)'s administration.

There were also races in Arizona, Connecticut, Maryland, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Wisconsin on the busiest primary day of the year. Georgia held runoffs.

By Wednesday, thousands of votes still hadn't been counted in three large South Florida counties where Reno hoped to catch up — Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach, some of the same counties that figured prominently in the 2000 election dispute.

The three counties represent 29 percent of the state's registered voters, and the returns there showed Reno with a better than 2-to-1 margin. "The returns are still coming in. It looks like a long night," Reno told supporters at a hotel north of Miami Beach.

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush ordered polls statewide to stay open an additional two hours. In the first test of the state's revamped elections system, polling places opened late, and workers had problems starting up new touchscreen voting machines and running other ballots through scanning machines.

Besides the problems in Miami-Dade, Broward County officials said they couldn't find 12 cartridges that store votes from the touchscreen machines. Duval County was missing results from one precinct, while 42 percent of the paper in Orange County, in central Florida, were unable to be read.

In all, problems were reported in 14 of Florida's 67 counties.

Reno's campaign warned of the possibility of a post-election battle. "When that many people are turned away from the polls, it raises enough concerns that we're going to have to take a good, hard look at the legitimacy of the election," said campaign manager Mo Elleithee.

Reno entered the race with a wide lead in the polls, only to see it shrink to a too-close-to-call race as McBride won party endorsements and raised more cash.

State party leaders, who had hoped for an aggressive challenge to the president's brother after the 2000 presidential election crisis, said McBride would stand a better chance of defeating the governor in the fall.

Reno had angered many in Florida's Cuban community, an influential voting bloc, when as Clinton's attorney general she oversaw the federal raid two years ago that took Elian Gonzalez from his Miami relatives. The boy was sent back to Cuba with his father.

In other voting, former Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris ( news - external web site) won the GOP primary for an open House seat in a safely Republican district.

In New Hampshire, Sununu, a three-term congressman, will face three-term Democratic Gov. Jeanne Shaheen, who was unopposed.

Sununu is the son of former Gov. John H. Sununu, who was chief of staff to the former President Bush.

Smith was the first elected senator in a decade to be unseated in a primary. In 1992, Illinois Democrat Alan Dixon lost to Carol Moseley Braun, who went on to serve one term as the nation's first black woman senator.

Smith faced a backlash for briefly quitting the party in 1999 for a failed presidential run. Some critics said Sununu would do better against Shaheen; others said they couldn't forgive him for bolting the party, even though he returned a few months later.

Lew Williams, a 61-year-old retired police officer, said Sununu was the more reliable candidate. "I was disappointed when Bob left the party there, got a little wild," he said.

Reno and Bowles were not the only high-profile Clinton administration figures to seek office. Several other Clinton administration officials were seeking House seats. Andrew Cuomo, Clinton's housing secretary, dropped his Democratic bid for New York governor after polls showed him trailing badly.

The midterm elections have drawn national cash and attention, with the outcome deciding the partisan balance in Congress and influencing the debate over economic policy and foreign affairs.

With control of Congress split and held by a narrow margin, this year's elections could tip the balance either way. Democrats control the Senate by one seat; the GOP holds the House, with 222 Republicans, 211 Democrats and two independents.

Open seats for governor drew aggressive campaigns, too:

_ Tech-boom multimillionaire Craig Benson defeated two other candidates, including former Sen. Gordon Humphrey, for the GOP nomination for the New Hampshire governor's seat left open by Shaheen.

_ In Arizona, Attorney General Janet Napolitano ( news, bio, voting record), a Democrat, will face former GOP Rep. Matt Salmon in the fall race to replace two-term GOP Gov. Jane Hull.

_ In Rhode Island, former state Sen. Myrth York defeated state Attorney General Sheldon Whitehouse ( news, bio, voting record) for the Democratic nomination to replace Rhode Island GOP Gov. Lincoln Almond, who is leaving office because of term limits. York will face Don Carcieri, a former math teacher who became an executive in a large corporation.

In Maryland, Democratic Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend and Republican Rep. Robert Ehrlich ( news, bio, voting record) both won their parties' nominations. Minnesota and Vermont also will elect governors in the fall.

And in New York, GOP Gov. George Pataki will face state comptroller H. Carl McCall ( news, bio, voting record), whose contentious Democratic primary ended early with Cuomo's withdrawal.

In Washington, D.C., Mayor Anthony Williams ( news, bio, voting record) ran a write-in campaign after he was dropped from the ballot for petition irregularities. He faced Rev. Willie Wilson, also a write-in candidate, in a race likely to decide the fall winner. Results weren't expected for days.

Other House primaries included the race for a new district in Arizona, where former Clinton aide Fred DuVal and Arizona political scion Steve Udall were among seven Democratic candidates.

In Maryland, state Sen. Christopher Van Hollen ( news, bio, voting record) defeated Kennedy cousin Mark Shriver and Ira Shapiro, a top trade negotiator in the Clinton administration, for the Democratic nomination to challenge eight-term GOP Rep. Constance Morella.

In the 2000 presidential election between George W. Bush and Democrat Al Gore ( news - web sites), election results were contested in several Florida counties and statewide amid allegations of widespread voting problems and irregularities. After 36 days of legal arguments and protests, Bush ultimately was awarded the state's electoral votes and the election.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billmcbride; janetreno
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To: Green
called Secretary of State Jim Smith asking him Tuesday morning to call out the National Guard

Tha National Guard ??? .. hahahahahahaha

61 posted on 09/11/2002 8:14:53 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Yes, I got a chuckle out of that one too.
62 posted on 09/11/2002 8:15:40 AM PDT by Green
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To: Green
I think those folks are just beyond any hope of ever being able to vote properly .. LOL

63 posted on 09/11/2002 8:19:34 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
I just read another article on Palm Beach newspaper. Some pretty funny comments in there too. Here is the URL:

http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/news/politics/problems.html

64 posted on 09/11/2002 8:21:55 AM PDT by Green
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To: PJ-Comix
Wonder what the overall effect will be on the RAT turnout for the general election? Seems like this would hurt both candidates, as the other sides supporters will be convinced the election was stolen from them. Also, if they're fighting each other, they don't have time to go after Jeb.
65 posted on 09/11/2002 8:28:26 AM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: BOBTHENAILER
DIMocRATS always want Mo ! I say, There ain't no Mo !


66 posted on 09/11/2002 8:29:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: All

67 posted on 09/11/2002 8:35:26 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: PJ-Comix
Just dress rehearsal for the massive vote fraud they have planned for November to steal the election from Bush.

They have to know how to pull it off with the new machines.

68 posted on 09/11/2002 9:04:51 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: js1138
"Your argument makes no sense. This was a primary. Democrat against democrat. Reno was opposed by the clinton machine. Who are the democrats that would try to rig this primary, and why? If anything, the machine democrats know that Reno would lose, so why would they support her?"

You tell me. LOL

From the article:

"By Wednesday, thousands of votes still hadn't been counted in three large South Florida counties --— Broward, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach, some of the same counties that figured prominently in the 2000 election dispute.

The three counties represent 29 percent of the state's registered voters, and the returns there showed Reno with a better than 2-to-1 margin.

Besides the problems in Miami-Dade, Broward County officials said they couldn't find 12 cartridges that store votes from the touchscreen machines"

From the Palm Beach Post: "MIAMI-DADE COUNTY - Janet Reno sued to extend poll hours by two hours in Broward, Duval, Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties. More than 100 voters were turned away when machines were off-line for about five hours in a precinct targeted by Reno in Miami's predominantly black Liberty City neighborhood. Some machines were inoperable at 36 precincts at 2 p.m. Machines reset themselves in another Liberty City precinct, routing voters back to the starting screen. Voting machines were activated late in precincts across the county ranging from affluent to poor black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Four of nine election workers did not show up at a Coral Gables precinct where the doors were not opened for workers to set up until 7 a.m. and the machines were not all running until 8:20 a.m. Voters say they were denied provisional ballots. In predominantly black Carol City north of Miami, poll workers demonstrated how to use machines by marking "yes" on a measure that would repeal the county's gay rights ordinance. Elections headquarters had trouble reaching precincts by telephone. "We expected problems, but not to this magnitude," said Gisela Salas, the assistant supervisor of elections."

Don't sit around trying to figure out the tactics of Marxist/DemocRATS. When you know you're dealing with low-life criminal mentalities in the election process you should automatically know and expect that you will be having to deal with fallout that never favors Republicans.

This is a trial run for November. Those who underestimate snakes (Marxist DemocRATS) always wonder what happened to them when they get bit.

To eliminate snake bites, snake behavior must be anticipated and headed off at the pass. The way to stay ten steps ahead of them is to read their handbook -- the Marxist Manifesto. Ask Horowitz --- he knows them like a book. He knows the tricks in their trick bag. He's a GREAT snake handler.

The stupid party needs to pay more attention to his advice.

69 posted on 09/11/2002 9:37:21 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: mombonn; Howlin; PJ-Comix
"Just dress rehearsal for the massive vote fraud they have planned for November to steal the election from Bush. They have to know how to pull it off with the new machines."

BTTT! You got it!

70 posted on 09/11/2002 9:58:32 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: PJ-Comix
I'd love to see McBride and Reno fighting over who won for a month or more.

If so, maybe the legislature can leverage the controversy into having the state take control of the voting process away from the counties.

State control might make it harder to game the system in the future.
71 posted on 09/11/2002 10:09:22 AM PDT by 5by5
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To: Matchett-PI
'Ya nailed it on all sides , especially about the left and this being test for November . VERY astute of you and in fact I do believe the left has discovered a way to challenge each and every election now .

People can laugh at us Floridians all they like but the left is coming to a booth in there city and very soon . The left never sleep .

72 posted on 09/11/2002 11:53:07 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: MiamiFreePress; Seeking the truth; Fearless Flyers
You guy's ready ?
73 posted on 09/11/2002 11:56:05 AM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: PJ-Comix; Sledge; dorben
If ever there was a need for Reno storm troopers, here it is.

74 posted on 09/11/2002 12:04:34 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: Fearless Flyers
I wonder if she has the guy with the Uzi on her private payroll now ...
75 posted on 09/11/2002 12:30:02 PM PDT by RightWingConspirator
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To: dorben; MiamiFreePress; Seeking the truth; PJ-Comix
Last night after voting for Reno, I was making jokes about becoming a Democratic Precinct Captain.

I didn't sleep well, having aspirations to rise up inside the Democratic party creates troubling thoughts.

But heck if these people are so stupid they can't figure out touch screen voting, why shouldn't we take the leftist's sheep? I don't think there are property rights to sheep.

76 posted on 09/11/2002 12:56:24 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: truthandlife; maica
This is the same thing Al Gore did in Florida, Michigan, and Missouri and it works.

Glendenning...Baltimore City...1994...same thing

77 posted on 09/11/2002 1:25:54 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Overtaxed
Some counties have optical scanners. Unfortunately, in one county, the scanners were tearing the paper and jamming. Those voters had to fill out a written ballot. Each county picks what they want.

? Pinellas County went well EXCEPT there was a fire at a library in Palm Harbor and in the city of Seminole, GEE WHIZ, they ran out of plastic voting cards for the touch screens for the REPUBLICAN voters. Didn't they count the number of pubbies in their city and order enough? Those people that didn't get a voting card to put in the touch screen also voted in their own hand writing.

Two people I voted for lost. Everyone else I voted for kicked it.

78 posted on 09/11/2002 1:42:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
Sounds like a mess!

We actually had a post-voting survey to fill out about our "voting experience."

79 posted on 09/11/2002 1:54:47 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
Wow, McBride has 45% and Reno has 43%. Just announced on TV! Oh, McBride is calling it a night. Don't tell me he's been up all this time. Both McLawyer & Reno are hiding today. McLawyer's wife's voice is so annoying "caw, caw, caw."

Dems are mining for votes. Can you imagine dems pitted against each other? This is the ultimate payback for what they tried to do to Dubya in 2000. This is rich. LOL

And, local news said that we were embarrassed. I AM NOT EMBARRASSED. I didn't screw up.

80 posted on 09/11/2002 3:16:29 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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