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I have never felt more proud or more alone (pro-Israel demonstrator gets spat on......BY ANTI NAZIS)
Washington Jewish Week ^ | August 24, 2002 | Sarah Kopelovich

Posted on 09/10/2002 3:41:31 PM PDT by zapiks44

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To: rmlew
Believe you me, Buchanan, Taki, and McConnell et al, are well-aware of the situation in the Southwest. Buchanan is borderline obsessed with it (a good obsession, IMO) and I will guarantee this situation is addressed frequently in the American Conservative magazine. I eagerly await Issue 1 in my mail.
82 posted on 09/11/2002 5:36:55 AM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: zapiks44; monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; angelo; ...
ping
83 posted on 09/11/2002 5:39:52 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: omega4412
I'm familiar with that song. Thanks. I never noticed the Moros line. Thanks.
84 posted on 09/11/2002 5:46:41 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: quebecois
Excellent post, you are dead-on.
85 posted on 09/11/2002 6:03:15 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: Dan from Michigan
Those Nazi's are not a serious threat. The liberal fascist jerks are.

Wrong. They are both serious threats, because they're not really much different. They play at being at each others throat, but that's just two dogpacks snarling at each other. They'll unite against you in a heartbeat, as they have already united in support of the islamics as long as they kill Jews.

86 posted on 09/11/2002 6:07:31 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Under the Radar
VDARE and La Griffe, huh? "Under the Radar". Geez ;))).
87 posted on 09/11/2002 6:17:45 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: zapiks44
a complex situation, young people too often ask others to chew it, swallow it and digest it for them, and then tell them in absolute terms which side is most appropriate to their general belief structure.
It's not just young people, my dear. Most adults, I fear, are precisely that way.

Think of how many people inhale when journalists (self-marketing journalism) tell them that "objectivity" is just a dial-click away. The mercy is that most of them, most of the time, don't trouble to vote the convictions of the journalists.

If you're in doubt of that, just ask how many journalists disagree with the notion that journalism exists to "comfort the afflicted--and afflict the comfortable." Hardly any would strongly object to that. But then, how do they hope to accomplish that if not by influencing politics? And just what political influence would trying to get the government to "comfort the afflicted--and afflict the comfortable" be?

In the mouth of a journalist, "objectivity" is a codeword for socialism.


88 posted on 09/11/2002 6:18:54 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Cachelot
Do you have something constructive to add to the conversation?
89 posted on 09/11/2002 6:20:52 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: zapiks44
Any Jewish person who votes left is a fool.
90 posted on 09/11/2002 7:08:14 AM PDT by white trash redneck
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To: zapiks44
This has to be one of the most touching things I've ever read. Perhaps there is hope for America's universities. This girl deserves an award.

For what? Cluelessness? She said, "the past two years have been a perplexing time to be a young 'liberal' Jew in America." Two years, at least, that she has been at least dimly aware of the vile pro-terrorist stance of the left, and she was still surprised by this? Why?

There are also some strange things about the account. She refers to being "alone," but then says she has to leave because the "owner" of the Israeli flag wants it back. Huh? What? Who is the otherwise unmentioned "owner" of the flag?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad she stood up for herself, disgusted that no one (including the "owner" of the flag???) came to her aid, and glad she told her story; but wish, instead of this rather breathless and staged sounding account, that she had been more straightforward and included more necessary details.

In addition to the "owner" of the flag issue, who organized the counter rally, how was it publicized, how did she find out about it, who was the neo-nazi group? Inquiring minds want to know.

91 posted on 09/11/2002 7:33:25 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: faintpraise
I could accept Israel if it abandoned Jewish exclusivism and welcomed back returning Palestinian Arab refugees as well as Jewish immigrants. However, I will oppose American support of Israel as long as it retains an undemocratic military occupation and discriminates against Palestinian Arabs.

So, should they do these things in the ABSENCE of a negotiated peace agreement, while Arabs in the territories are openly at war with them? You have noticed that Israel has made extraordinary efforts to conclude final status negotiations under Oslo, right, only answered with violence and murder? Apparently not, or you think they should capitulate to murder, and have no right to peace in exchange for land.

92 posted on 09/11/2002 7:47:19 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Under the Radar
Do you have something constructive to add to the conversation?

Yep. Radar ;).

Do you have anything constructive, except a little sly applause for that other guy who seems more or less convinced that the Jews rule America? Good old friends of now absent LarryLied, huh?

93 posted on 09/11/2002 8:04:50 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Mamzelle
I have more sympathy for Israelis than liberal American Jews...

If they're liberal they are neither really American or really a Jew. You can't be good and evil at the same time. You can't be American and anti-american at the same time.

God Save America (Please)

94 posted on 09/11/2002 8:40:44 AM PDT by John O
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To: zapiks44
Maybe we could get her "in touch" with the SECOND AMENDMENT SISTERS!
95 posted on 09/11/2002 8:48:34 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Cachelot
VDARE is a mainstream paleoconservative site, and not anti-semetic at all. It is one of the best political sites on the web, and I urge everyone on this message board to review it.
96 posted on 09/11/2002 9:12:34 AM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: Phillip Augustus
VDARE is a mainstream paleoconservative site, and not anti-semetic at all.

Rotfl. A regular outlet for Sam Francis is "mainstream" and "not anti-semitic"? Pull the other one. This one got bells on it :)).

97 posted on 09/11/2002 9:53:36 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: SeenTheLight
That's me, right here! Jewish, ex-lefty---woke up big time after 9/11. This young woman is coming along. She's just beginning to figure it out, but I think she's on the right path. It's the same one I was on and I ended up here!

Well, welcome aboard! Paul experienced a radical conversion- the scales fell from his eyes. But I know, realistically, that everyone will not experience a similar conversion. With some people, they want to believe in liberalism so badly it takes a literal mountain of evidence to convince them. Some people are rational enough that it can simply be a key sentence dropped on them by a friend- they will ponder that phrase and its ramifications over time and arrive at the proper conclusions.

I would imagine some people, like this young woman, who are passionate and want to be involved in a "struggle for the truth" are doing just that- struggling to find the truth. It may take more such incidents with her, but I don't think she will ever be able to reconcile what has happened to her with liberalism- there's too much anti-Jewishness in leftist rhetoric nowadays. Just look at one of the heroes of liberalism- Cynthia McKinney. She and her father both voted out of office. It will take more time, but we are headed in the right direction regarding Jews.

98 posted on 09/11/2002 10:24:45 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Stultis
So, should they do these things in the ABSENCE of a negotiated peace agreement...

Yes! Israel should stop trying to crush the Palestinians and get the hell out of the occupied territories. It should also end all forms of discrimination against Palestinians and welcome all Palestinian refugees who wish to return to Israel. Under those conditions, it wouldn't be hard for Israel to make peace with the Palestinians.

99 posted on 09/11/2002 10:26:07 AM PDT by faintpraise
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To: Cachelot
Rotfl. A regular outlet for Sam Francis is "mainstream" and "not anti-semitic"? Pull the other one. This one got bells on it :)).

It also runs Paul Gottfried who is... Jewish.
I actually have e-mailed Brimlow and suggested that he only run Francis artilces relating to race and immigration, not foreign affairs.

Posting a single anti-Semite does not make them anti-Semetic.

100 posted on 09/11/2002 10:34:52 AM PDT by rmlew
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