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To: Stultis
So, should they do these things in the ABSENCE of a negotiated peace agreement...

Yes! Israel should stop trying to crush the Palestinians and get the hell out of the occupied territories. It should also end all forms of discrimination against Palestinians and welcome all Palestinian refugees who wish to return to Israel. Under those conditions, it wouldn't be hard for Israel to make peace with the Palestinians.

99 posted on 09/11/2002 10:26:07 AM PDT by faintpraise
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To: faintpraise
Yes! Israel should stop trying to crush the Palestinians and get the hell out of the occupied territories. It should also end all forms of discrimination against Palestinians and welcome all Palestinian refugees who wish to return to Israel. Under those conditions, it wouldn't be hard for Israel to make peace with the Palestinians.

Like most apologists you confuse peace with submission. Your solution is the dissolution of Israel.
101 posted on 09/11/2002 10:36:26 AM PDT by rmlew
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To: faintpraise
Yes! Israel should stop trying to crush the Palestinians and get the hell out of the occupied territories.

Check. Taking faintpraise out of the "land for peace" category and puting you into the "land for murder" category with Arafat and Osama.

Now, with the Jews taken care of, how should America capitulate to those murdered our innocents? Can we manage to match your plan for Israel; i.e., bring a final end to our representative democracy and ensure the eminent imposition of sharia law?

102 posted on 09/11/2002 10:39:06 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: faintpraise
Yes, of course. Like those wonderful Palestinians who were trying to make peace with the Israelis BEFORE 1967 and the so-called occupation of the territories. In those days, the West Bank belonged to Jorden and Gaza belonged to Israel. (In fact, Israel tried to give the WB back to Jordan and they rejected it!)

So, since this is the not-so-ancient history, what, then, is your excuse for Arab/Palestinian attacks on Israel from 1948-1967? Even before that, Arabs were attacking Jews who lived there. This despite the fact that the Jews had established habitable, economically vibrant centers out of nothing. That is when the majority of Arabs came to these places -- after the Jews had done all the hard work. Before that, they had no interest -- there was nothing there but sand, as has been documented by visitors at the time (one notable one by Mark Twain) -- sand that no one gave a hoot about.

106 posted on 09/11/2002 11:09:50 AM PDT by Inkie
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