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Papua New Guinea earthquake... 7.5
USGS NEIS bulletin ^ | 9/8/02 | USGS

Posted on 09/08/2002 4:53:30 PM PDT by 2sheep

The following is a release by the United States Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center: A major earthquake occurred about 60 miles (95 km) west-northwest of Wewak, New Guinea, Papua New Guinea or about 520 miles (840 km) northwest of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea at 12:44 PM MDT today, Sep 8, 2002 (Sep 09 at 4:44 AM local time in Papua New Guinea). A PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE OF 7.5 WAS COMPUTED FOR THIS EARTHQUAKE. The magnitude and location may be revised when additional
 data and further analysis results are available. No reports of damage or casualties have been received at this time; however, this earthquake may have caused substantial damage and casualties due to its location and size. For additional information, see the USGS NEIC web page
  NEIC: Near Real Time Earthquake List  [Also note many other quakes around the Pacific Rim.]

                   Updated as of Sun Sep 8 19:49:28 UTC 2002.
 DATE-(UTC)-TIME       Latitude  Longitude  Depth  Magnitude  Q   COMMENTS
 yyyy/mm/dd  hh:mm:ss  degrees   degrees    km

 2002/09/08  18:44:26  3.23S     142.87E    33.0   7.5        A   NEAR N COAST NEW GUINEA, PNG.

USGS NEIC: Earthquake Bulletin: NEAR N COAST NEW GUINEA, PNG.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbump; earthquake; melanesia; newguinea; papua; polynesia
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To: 2sheep
Seems like the bigger ones happen around the time of the lunar tidal maximums give or take a couple of days. This is one of those times, this is one of the bigger ones.
41 posted on 09/08/2002 8:22:54 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: 2sheep
CNN has reported it caused 2 tsunami's...
42 posted on 09/08/2002 9:37:28 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
5.6 yesterday in Sicily.
43 posted on 09/08/2002 9:41:04 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Howlin
Here's a little excerpt from a story posted on Drudge now:

Small tsunami hits PNG after powerful quake

"PORT MORESBY, Sept 9 (Reuters) - A powerful 7.6 magnitude earthquake struck northern Papua New Guinea on Monday, knocking coastal homes off their stilts, generating a small tsunami and killing three people, according to initial reports.

The quake hit near an area of the poor South Pacific nation where one of a similar size triggered tsunamis that killed more than 2,000 people in 1998. This time, a one to two metre (3.3-6.7 ft) wave swept ashore but caused no damage, officials said ...

The quake was close to the coastal town of Aitape where more than 2,000 people were killed in July 1998 when 15-metre (50 ft) waves swept 500 metres (550 yards) inshore.

The Aitape quake measured 7.1, too small to have caused the tsunamis. Some experts say the quake may have triggered a submarine landslide that sent the huge waves roaring inland."

44 posted on 09/08/2002 9:51:07 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: shaggy eel
Interesting coincidence. I read a paper about two months ago concerning the 1855 Wairarapa Earthquake. Although there were no modern mechanisms to measure the magnitude of that quake, the intensity of shaking, the surficial displacement, and the damage caused by the quake suggest a Richter magnitude of 8.0 to 8.2.

I thought I had it bad being 60 kilometers from the San Andreas Fault! ;^)

45 posted on 09/08/2002 10:04:44 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: PoisedWoman
I just finished reading a book about a missionary trek up to Engati Village in PNG in the early 1980's, In the Hearts of Wild Men, by Earnest Herndon. Sounds like a beautiful country, but potentially deadly.
46 posted on 09/09/2002 5:38:54 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Squantos
Wonder if tsunami's are possible around the islands ....?

Within the past few years there was an earthquake in New Guinea that generated a tsunami. The wave killed many, many people there.
47 posted on 09/09/2002 5:50:38 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: capitan_refugio
,,, if you're ever down this way, take a rural road running from Martinborough thru Gladstone, in the Wairarapa. The land rises quite a few metres high, like a shelf for many kilometres along the Wairarapa. We also got the shelf that now forms the Hutt motorway, connecting Wellington City with the Hutt Valley.

Try www.mapzone.co.nz to see where I'm talking about.

48 posted on 09/09/2002 2:05:38 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: 2sheep
Wow, 7.5 is a big one!
49 posted on 09/09/2002 5:16:21 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; shaggy eel; Crazymonarch; cmsgop; ...
Since the 7.6 at 2002/09/08 18:44:26, the NEIC: Near Real Time Earthquake List says there have been today six more quakes at the same location:  4.9, 5.1, 5.0, 5.0, 5.0, and 5.1 so something is still going strong.  This is a similar sound as the repetitive war drums in the earth at Fiji.  It would be nice if it is only a bunny, but it sounds like the signaling of war.


50 posted on 09/09/2002 8:14:12 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
I suspect those are aftershocks, which are pretty normal after a quake of this magnitude. Typically they diminish over time and in size.
52 posted on 09/09/2002 8:22:25 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: tubebender
Only eight? You sir (or madam) are seriously underprovisioned for these perilous times. I recommend a case of good house wine (currently drinking a delicious Sicilain) and we also have about 6 cases of superb french reds, and some california and washington reds ( Woodward Canyon and Leonetti). I would grab the family photos, if I knew where they were, first though. We are about 15 feet above sea level, less as you go down the yard to the beach. But seriously, We have travelled in Irian Jaya (the Indonesian held side of New Guinea) quite extensively, and I love those people.
53 posted on 09/09/2002 8:26:43 PM PDT by proud to be breathing
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To: ForFreedom
I think the 4 dead are from the first one, the 7.6.
54 posted on 09/09/2002 8:48:56 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Dog Gone
>I suspect those are aftershocks, which are pretty normal after a quake of this magnitude. Typically they diminish over time and in size.

How do we know that this was the top end of the quake?  I was once in the midst of an earthquake swarm not far from a volcanic mountain.  The geologists called and were very interested in what was going on.  I asked, "How do you know if this is a swarm building up to a big blow or quake or just a swarm cooling down from one already passed?"

They said.  "We don't know.  We can only tell by looking back after the biggest event."

If a swarm predates a big blow (like Mt. St. Helens did and like the various swarms around the world), then you can't tell if a swarm of varying sizes (say 3.7, 4.2, 3.6, 4.0, 3.9, 4.5, 4.6) or as in this instance 7.6, 4.9, 5.1, 5.0, 5.0, 5.0, 5.1 is getting bigger or getting smaller.  In other words, the 7.6 might not have been the top end.

Here is a book which indicates that accurate forecasts can be made in the scientific community.   Volcano Eruption Great Earthquakes Advance Warning Techniques Book


55 posted on 09/09/2002 8:59:40 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
This looks like a fairly normal aftershock sequence ... even a little bit on the quiet side. I am surprised there is not at least one in the 6.0 to 6.5 range.

The main shock was 2 1/2 orders of magnitude bigger than the significant aftershocks. This means you can add up all the energy released in the aftershocks, and it still wouldn't compare to the energy relase in the main quake. Aftershocks are a sort of like the Earth trying to settle back in to its old routine.

56 posted on 09/09/2002 9:59:12 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: 2sheep
Earthquakes associated with magmatic movement underground are in a completely different class than earthquakes, for instance, on the San Andreas Fault.
57 posted on 09/09/2002 10:10:01 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
>Earthquakes associated with magmatic movement underground are in a completely different class than earthquakes, for instance, on the San Andreas Fault.

Would you explain what you mean, please?  See this link (click here).  Wouldn't the subduction in PNG aggravate the already hot volcanoes in that area?  When the Pacific plate subducts under Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Hood, it would heat up points in the cascades, therefore, how is this a different class?  The whole Pacific Rim seems to be rattling like a pressure cooker and after the 7.6 and 7.7 in Fiji on August 19, volcanoes acted up in Hawaii and Japan, so it looks like there might be a relationship between the quakes and volcanoes.

  Cross-section of the subduction zone below New Britain. From Johnson (1976).

58 posted on 09/09/2002 11:09:34 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: 2sheep
Let's take the case of the earthquake swarms (hundreds of smallish quakes per day) associated with magmatic movement in the Long Valley Caldera, California area, in 1980:

"A collapsed volcano in the Eastern Sierra near Mammoth Lakes has been generating anxiety-provoking seismic swarms for decades, if not centuries, and geologists have speculated widely about the underground processes causing these quakes.

Now, a Berkeley seismologist has discovered evidence that some of these earthquakes are being caused by locked, water-saturated faults cracking open several miles underground, shoved apart by sudden increases in fluid pressure.

Based on his analysis of seismic data from quakes in the volcanic crater, Assistant Professor of Geophysics Douglas Dreger concludes that magma moving through large cracks periodically encounters fractures saturated by water. The magma heats them so suddenly that the expanding water, steam or bubbles drive the rocks apart as much as four inches in a matter of seconds.

The sudden expansion triggers an earthquake.

'As the fluid is heated, it pressurizes, reducing the frictional stress along the fault and allowing the fault to move, generating an earthquake,' said Dreger. 'As the pressurization continues, you may have continued deformation, but without seismic activity.'"

Compare the magmatic movement model above with the traditional elastic strain theory, using the 1872 Owens Valley quake +/- 8.3 as an example:

Faults and earthquakes are the result of deep-seated forces, called tectonic stress, which gradually deform the rocks of the earth's crust until rupture occurs. The rock deformation, called strain, is largely elastic and is stored in the rocks as elastic strain energy. When the strength of the rock is exceeded, rupture occurs, usually along faults which are zones of weakness. The rocks on opposite sides of the fault slide past each other as the rocks spring back to a relaxed position. The strain energy is released partly as heat and partly as elastic waves called seismic waves. The passage of these seismic waves produces the ground-shaking of an earthquake.

Since 1850 there have been three great earthquakes (M 8 or greater) in California. Both the Fort Tejon earthquake of 1857 and the famous San Francisco earthquake of 1906 resulted from movement along the San Andreas fault. The Owens Valley earthquake of 1872 was produced by movement along the Owens Valley fault on the east side of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. This great earthquake killed twenty-seven people and damaged or destroyed nearly every building in the towns of Lone Pine and Independence. This earthquake occurred at 2:30 in the morning, and Californians from Red Bluff to San Diego were awakened by the shaking of their beds. The quake produced about 4 feet vertical displacement and up to 18 feet lateral displacement.

When I said "different class" of earthquake, I was referring to the causal mechanisms, rather than the magnitude or intensity of shaking. A third class of seismic event includes meteorite impacts. I hope this helps.

59 posted on 09/10/2002 1:07:01 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; shaggy eel
Thanks for your post.  Let's step back a bit further than causal mechanisms and consider another model:  G~d created the earth and things would go well for mankind depending upon how man sowed.  Sow good or evil, reap blessings or cursings, as ye sow, so shall ye reap.  Because G~d controls the switch for earth movements, he can definitely use said movements to bring about the execution of Judgment.

Jer 51:6 Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of the LORD'S vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.

This has been fairly thoroughly discussed on the two threads below, so I won't repeat that here, except to say there are many dreams, visions and prophecies of a heap of trouble for the "midst" of Babylon (New Madrid) because Pres.  Bush has entertained Islamic priests in the White House and still wants to divide Israel by placing an abomination called a Palestinian state in the middle of it.

Short story:  Sow trouble in the middle of another nation, reap trouble in the middle of your own.  America divided and a 9+ quake causes the west coast to fall into the sea or at least go under a lot of water.  I won't argue with Tim Snodgrass' dream or vision of that occurring, just his interpretation which I think is too soft.  There should be a whole lot of repenting going on and there isn't.

 NEW MADRID--WHAT'S IN A NAME?

 EARTH CHANGES APPROACHING

60 posted on 09/10/2002 7:33:59 PM PDT by 2sheep
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