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I hope that you all will forgive me for writing this but ever sense I read this exerpt from, September 11: An Oral History, I have been tormented with its memory.

Perhaps if I share it with others the memory will be easier to handle.

It is the oral history of Ernest Armstead entitled,Tormented by conversions with death. He was an EMT, at Ground Zero.

".....I ran towards them, my triage tags in hand. There was a man having a seizure and his eyes were rolling into the back of his head. He had struck the pavement so hard that there was virturally nothing else left of him. There were a couple others that I never got to, but I could see from a short distance that they were dead. And then there was the lady with the nice hairdo and earrings.

When I got to her, I ripped out a black tag. What impressed me - and scared me - was that she was alert and was watching what I was doing. I put the tag around her neck and she looked at me and said, "I am not dead. Call my daughter. I am not dead." I was so startled that for a split second I was speechless. "Ma'am," I said. "don't worry about it, We will be right back for you." That was a lie. She couldn't see what I could see. Somehow, I guess it was an air draft or something, her fall had been cushioned enought so that she didn't splatter like the others. Still her body was so twisted and torn apart that I could only ask myself, Why is this lady still alive and talking to me? How can this be? Her right lung, shoulder and head were intacted, but from the diaphragm down she was unrecognizable. Yet she was lucid enough that she continued to argue with me."I am not dead," she insisted again.

....but another wave of casualties arrived in the lobby from upstairs, so I needed to return. As I headed back, I stepped over the lady one more time. And as eerie and unsettling as our first encounter had been, the second was even worse. She yelled at me.

"I am not dead! I am not dead!"

"They're coming, they're coming." I replied without stopping.

"I am not dead! I am not dead!"

54 posted on 09/08/2002 2:02:52 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware
I'm sick to my stomach, Kill those B@stards, all of them.
55 posted on 09/08/2002 2:17:02 PM PDT by seeker41
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To: mware
I've heard of things like this happening in other situations. One of the many reasons I could not be an EMT.

I hope her end was peaceful.

We must teach the animals that did this to never EVER think of rearing up on their hind legs to us again.
57 posted on 09/08/2002 2:18:58 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: mware
"I am not dead! I am not dead!"

Jesus...

60 posted on 09/08/2002 3:03:30 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: mware
I never read such a heart rendering story in my life. The excerpt that you published fails to say if she survived or not. Her injuries sounded like she did not, but I was wondering if she made it or not.
77 posted on 09/09/2002 11:26:15 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr
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To: mware
"I am not dead! I am not dead!"

NO one could handle that memory easily, my friend. No one.

84 posted on 09/09/2002 12:11:16 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: mware
just speechless...
85 posted on 09/09/2002 12:18:56 PM PDT by Rev DMV
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To: mware
Could you please give me a linked (Or just copy and pasted) source for this information if it exists on-line??

Thank you. And I do hope your actions here help you with your problem.
92 posted on 09/09/2002 1:41:46 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: mware
Please forgive me ignorance in posing the following questions...

I have heard that there is no way to avoid death in a fall like this (Terminal Velocity). Even the USA Today said that death was absolutely certain no matter how the victim fell (Feet or head first).

Are you saying that woman actually survived that fall? Long enough to tell that EMT that she was "not dead"??? Or, is it possible that she was injured in some other way?

Also...(And please forgive the specifics of this question)...

I thought when someone fell even that far that their bodies didn't get mutilated in the way I've seen described. Yes, bones broken and such but unless they hit head or feet first (which would tend to contort the body in odd ways) they didn't really bleed much because the heart stoped on impact. Their bodies might be laying in odd ways (broken bones) but their internal injuries are not evident.

I ask this because I've seen numerous animals hit and unless they get draged or something, their bodies are not really mutilated. And they have been hit at some pretty high speeds.

The way some of these stories are sounding, it's almost like people exploded like tomatos when impacting...And I have never known that to be possible with the human body.

Again, please forgive my ignorance and the graphic nature of my questions...
97 posted on 09/09/2002 2:35:16 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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