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The tower 'jumpers' were murdered
The Irish Independent ^
| September 8, 2002
| Declan McCormack
Posted on 09/08/2002 7:16:48 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: mountaineer
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posted on
09/08/2002 8:24:30 AM PDT
by
AAABEST
To: Behind Liberal Lines
"When I think of the jumpers I wonder why we simply haven't nuked the entire midEast yet."Well stated, and I couldn't agree more!
To: kaylar
That's the kind of useless precog dreams I get. I too have dreams of future useless events, like looking out a window and seeing a leaf float by. I'd always hoped as I aged this would mature into something more useful, but it doesn't appear to be moving that direction!
To: aculeus
Primitive overriding biological reflexes include:
1) Seeking oxygen at all costs, and
2)Moving away instantly and forcefully from intense heat that burns your flesh.
You and I my dearest friends would reflexively also use superhuman strength to break through inches thick plate glass windows to get oxygen and irrestitably move away from 1400 degree Fahrenheit, steel melting jet fuel inferno.
These dear souls, now in heaven, were brutally murdered in a carefully crafted, well planned event that defines the word "holocaust."
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posted on
09/08/2002 8:58:01 AM PDT
by
friendly
To: LeeMcCoy
...Couldn't, even if I wanted to...
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:05:13 AM PDT
by
gargoyle
To: mountaineer
never waver!!
To: aculeus
The story of two of the survivors was told on Focus on the family
The first one was like a picture drawn with words..I felt like I was there ...here is a link if you are interested
here
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:20:28 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: kaylar
Years ago I had a friend who had precognitive dreams. I always listened to her tales with skepticism, until I was in one.
Our 2 families were going to spend the weekend at a country place we owned. On the way she asked if there was any way that when we got there we would not be able to get in. I said no, of course not, I have the key to the lock on the gate.
Upon arrival my key would not let us in & we had to dismantle the entire gate to get into the place. She just smiled. She had dreamed this before hand.
She didn't tell me until sometime later, that her dream had continued with us being attacked in the night & only she survived escaping over the hills. Thank God that part didn't happen, but I paid more attention to her dreams after that.
I haven't talked to her in years, I wonder what she is dreaming now.
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:26:33 AM PDT
by
Ditter
To: aculeus
Maybe he trying to say they trying to cover up the fact people jumping? So people do not see it and get angry.
The medical examiners should not classify them as jumpers though. That term is used for suicides. They were murdered.
That why the article not making sense to me.
To: aristeides
Jumping under these circumstances is not suicide. Yes but if there ever was an arthur anderson life insurance company, you can bet they would have classified the jumpers as suicides as an excuse not to pay.
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:36:52 AM PDT
by
staytrue
To: friendly
"The perfect storm" has a good description of the dilemma the body faces when underwater without supplemental oxygen for an extended period of time. Eventually you open your mouth underwater and try to take a breath. In some people, water going down the windpipe triggers the throat to close tight which results in suffocation. In others the lungs just fill with water and they drown. Either way, the end result is the same.
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:52:52 AM PDT
by
ganesha
To: RnMomof7
That was an amazing story. Thank you, I think... I'm bawling.
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posted on
09/08/2002 9:57:39 AM PDT
by
dubyagee
To: dubyagee
I creid too when I heard it too...I can not even imagine it
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posted on
09/08/2002 10:21:14 AM PDT
by
RnMomof7
To: aculeus
Indeed, many of the successful evacuees from the top floors of the South Tower testified later that it was the ghoulish sight of the jumpers which convinced them to flee.Then the jumpers are heroes. How moving that something good can come out of something so horrible.
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posted on
09/08/2002 10:27:35 AM PDT
by
agrace
To: lafroste
Bingo...
To: Alice in Wonderland
At first, it seemed like debris. Large objects were falling from the top of the World Trade Center's north tower, just a few minutes after American Airlines Flight 11 hit. "It took three or four to realize: They were people," says James Logozzo, who had gathered with co-workers in a Morgan Stanley boardroom on the 72nd floor of the south tower, just 120 feet away from the north tower. "Then this one woman fell."
She fell closer to the south tower, he recalls. Logozzo saw her face. She had dark hair and olive skin, a white blouse and black skirt. She fell with her back to the ground, flat, staring up.
"The look on her face was shock. She wasn't screaming. It was slow motion. When she hit, there was nothing left," Logozzo says.
Full Story at USA Today.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Yuuuuhhh!
They will pay. They will pay!
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posted on
09/08/2002 10:53:57 AM PDT
by
Radix
To: lafroste
The author of this article needs to be slapped around, then fired for writing such a gratuitous bit of pomposity. i don't see any pomposity. He showed outrage at the terrorists, compassion for the victims and their families. And, if anything, he demonstrated that in his ruling the medical examiner spared many families uneeded added grief.
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posted on
09/08/2002 11:24:31 AM PDT
by
attagirl
To: Behind Liberal Lines
29% of the country wanted to launch nukes right after the event ... that's an extraordinarily high number given America's history ... Saudi Arabia and others might ought to take notice ... the American public (most) won't stand for the repeated daily attacks like the Israelis have ...
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posted on
09/08/2002 11:49:48 AM PDT
by
Bobby777
To: kaylar
We saw a similar nightmare in Sao Paulo Brazil in 1974 when a skyscraper went up in flames and hundreds of people were trapped inside. Many ran up the stairs to the roof. If they turned left on the roof, they died from the flames. If they turned right, there was a small space where copters could get them off.
In spite of the efforts of the copters, many gave up and jumped off the roof to their deaths. One of the jumpers was my boss' best friend. His wife said later that he had a great fear of fire and took the jump. One never knows what you might do if flames are closing in on you.
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