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To: branicap
...Britain was saved only because of their best ally;The Chanel,their natural moat

Well perhaps you should build one yourself next time and stop letting the Germans in!!!.
Oh at least the British fought it out and and survived to fight another day and had an insignificantly small army who gave the Germans a bloody nose at Arras (the only real serious fighting done in the campaign!!!) compared to the millions of Frenchman who thought it better to surrender to the Germans than fight it out!!!
oh and what victories in the War of Independence we wooped your ass at the Battle of the Saintes 1783 under Admiral Rodney the greatest naval victory ever, French sea power was diminshed forever therefore French involvement was a farce!! Britian didn't want the American colonies anymore anyway it was finding more new territories of more value so they were going to give it up anyway.
112 posted on 09/09/2002 9:41:39 AM PDT by MARETHLINE
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To: MARETHLINE
The thing is the British were still decimated and had to resort to massive levies of colonial auxillaries and Americans were essential to holding the line after the massive amount of German reinforcements came from the Eastern Front( following the seizure of power by the Bolsheviks and Russia's withdrawal from the war).
114 posted on 09/09/2002 11:47:57 AM PDT by weikel
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To: MARETHLINE; weikel
#112

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

:Listen mate,I am not French!

Last time I checked my post I couldn`t find anything derogatory about Britain in it!BTW I live in Britain and have a British passport and am a little bit serious about history.Your "patriotic"! drivel reminds me more on drunken bravado of Chelsie fans than on a serious contribution to this thread!

But,if you want it you will get it:

everybody,and I mean everybody was simply "destroyed "by a German war machine in 1940-41!For various reasons:German tactics were new,and took all of Europe by surprise!Combibed assault of panzer divisions and aviation was a novelty.While British,French,Russians were debating the merits of cavalry v. tank,byplane or monoplane Germans had long established doctrine and well trained army,and weapons second to none!Britain didn`t have even a submachine gun,for God`s sake!?Sten was a emergency measure hastily introduced as a response to the excelent german MP-38!Americans were totaly unprepared!No army appart from Russians had anything to come even close to German tanks!Russians had the best tanks in 41 (T-34 and KV) but used them in a wrong way,just as British and French!Nobody bothered to read Hanz Guderian book about armored warfare published in early thirties!?Remember ,mate,85 % of fighting in Europe was in the Russian f Front!

About the Chanel: it is a great defender of UK,it is there not because Britain had built it,it just is!Further,British army had put a valiant fight but was ,almost ,viped out!If it wasn`t for Hitlers decision to stop the panzers 15 miles from Danquerque,against all military logic,Brits would be slaughtered on the beaches!But,we know what has happened.

France,as their general Gaufre had honestly said,had paid the price of "being victorious in WWI"!Niether British nor French were on the receiving end of tank assault(Germans were)and didn`t know the meaning of the word Tank terror!So,British invented the tank and Germans developed the best tanks in the world!French thought that their cavalry will master the panzers!We know the resoult!"Ardenes and their forrest is not a tank country" their generals claimed!They were in the same category as a British "genious" Gen. Haig who described machine gun as an "overrated weapon"!We,sadly,know the resoult of his evaluation!

Today,we all know what Germans knew in `39!I don`t think that this Anglo-Saxon BS about "French cowardice" should be tested by anyone,today!

The point is that USA can`t stand French because they are proud of their achievements,their history,art,literatury,science....deservedly so.And,their are reluctant to be American puppets and do everything that Washington says!It is called ;indenpendence,I believe!

But,with attitude:"With us or agains us" suddenly French are cowards,and Germans are Nazis,right!

Speaking of cowardice,90% of ground work in Bosnia and Kosovo was and is being done by French and British!Americans preffere to stay in their APCs,in their barracs!Ask Generel Michael Rose ,he knows!

116 posted on 09/09/2002 1:45:37 PM PDT by branicap
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To: MARETHLINE

*Not to mention that the Brits had better planes and better pilots.....*
*...even though they were outnumbered by the German pilots*

On a sidenote: wasn't it King George the 3rd that addressed Parliament as "My Lords and Peacocks."? (Back during the time of the American Revolution..)


And the French seapower...true. Just look at France's 'battleship(s)' during WWII.....
122 posted on 09/10/2002 11:27:16 AM PDT by Darksheare
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