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September 5, 2002 | Illstillbe

Posted on 09/05/2002 6:59:29 AM PDT by illstillbe

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To: Mo1
To:LibertyLover

Please! Brandywine remains a perfect example of how idiotic Washington and his ilk are! An abject failure, it was!

Hundreds of our Patriots were slaughtered by Howe's troops ... no planning ... no thought behind the plan.

How can you possibly say you believe in this guy?!
Posted by: FishandChipsonMyShoulders

Hello, Mo1 ... I enjoy reading your thinking ...

181 posted on 09/08/2002 11:59:43 AM PDT by illstillbe
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To: Taxman
To: Don't Taxme

Indeed ... the roots of unrest started much earlier ... intolerable acts built up ... but I still like my name.
Posted by: 342 chests-of-tea-tossed-overboard-started-it-all.

*wink* ... I am glad to see you here, Taxman ...

182 posted on 09/08/2002 12:24:11 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: illstillbe
Well, thank you!! It's interesting to imagine what might have been going through those Patriots' minds all those many years ago.

OMG .. FOFL .. Thanks for the ping .. I can't wait to come back and read the rest .. but for now I must clean the house before my husband has my head on a platter

Good Thread!!

183 posted on 09/08/2002 12:47:08 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: FreeTheHostages
To: I-Stand-For-Freedom

Let me get this straight. Fort Washington is captured ... in the final Battle of New York ...for the Brits managed to get ships past the ports without ANY difficulty ... thus rendering the ports useless to our Patriots ... a fort carrying the name of your "King" Washington ... and this same inept "King" Washington was forced to retreat.

2,722 Patriots were taken prisoner and Howe's forces pursued wimpy-Washington all the way out of the territory until wishy-washy-Washington crossed the Delaware ... running like the coward he is. WE NEED A NEW LEADER ... wake UP, man!
Posted by:BubblesAndSqueak

Hello, FreeThe Hostages ... I have enjoyed and appreciated your efforts these last few days when I have come to see your wisdom ...

184 posted on 09/08/2002 1:34:33 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: illstillbe
Patriot Bump!
185 posted on 09/08/2002 2:09:22 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe
To: BADjokes

Aye, Paine and his antics give me a pain in the nether regions! Corruption abounds and all should be made aware! As for Washington, he is known to be a representative of "Big Tobacco" and should not be trusted either.

Posted by: Foiled
186 posted on 09/08/2002 2:18:08 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe
To: still in the woods

You and your kind have all been powdering your wigs with too heavy a hand. George Washington is right in this fight and doing all that he can to grant us victory in our Cause. I say to you that any enemy of my enemy is my friend!

Posted by: Just Cause
187 posted on 09/08/2002 2:23:54 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe
To: arnoldknows

WE NEED PEOPLE IN COMMAND WHO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!

Yeah, we need to have someone in charge who would be a true and loyal commander, someone like say, oh ..................... HORATIO GATES!!!

signed: Colonials Rule Redcoats Drool

188 posted on 09/08/2002 2:32:09 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: illstillbe
OK .. still got things to do .. but I'm wondering what this thread would be like??

John Fries Rebellion

The sum of 2 million dollars was to be raised from the House Tax. Pennsylvania was to contribute $237,000. Since there were very few slaves in the state, the force of the tax fell or rested on dwelling houses and property. This tax became known as the "Window Tax", since the measuring of the size of the windows and the counting of window panes was a part of the assessment. It was known as the "Hot-Water Tax", because housewives poured hot water on the assessors from their second story windows to discourage them while they were counting and measuring. It was also known as the "Milford Tax", since that is where the main opposition seems to have been centered. Finally, it became known as the "John Fries Rebellion", as Fries was considered the ringleader of an armed opposition.

189 posted on 09/08/2002 2:47:59 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: illstillbe; Arkansawyer; Budge; DCBryan1; null and void; gizman; FreetheSouth!; ...
Brilliant, funny and thought-provoking. Reminds me a bit of when I took American history in college and we would roleplay some of the dilemnas of our forefathers. Great work!

And a ping to the rest of y'all. This is good stuff.

190 posted on 09/08/2002 3:00:38 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: hellinahandcart
"This is a riot."

Personally I find laughter to be even healthier than music. And I expect a lot of it on this tread. This is great. Cheers.

191 posted on 09/08/2002 3:13:50 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: hellinahandcart
OOPS!

Tread = thread

192 posted on 09/08/2002 3:14:31 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: illstillbe
(New York was attacked by the British in September 1776, at the current Ground Zero!)
193 posted on 09/08/2002 3:35:23 PM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"(by those henceforth I shall refer to as Washbots)"

ROTFL!

194 posted on 09/08/2002 3:44:41 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: illstillbe
"We need to understand why the Brits are so angry at us ... war never solved anything!"

ROTFLMBO! Y'all are killing me!

195 posted on 09/08/2002 3:49:46 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
To: Remember our Prisoners of War

Ha! That great "patriot" Jefferson! What did he do?? Just run away as the British approached Monticello! Coward! Your Governor is a COWARD!!

signed, No Fool in NY!

196 posted on 09/09/2002 10:07:17 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher
To: No Fool in New York!

Your screenname is very deceptive as there is NO bigger fool than you in all of this young country!

Of course Jefferson fled...It was prudent as no one knew better than he that at the request of General Washington, he had sent the state's militia to the aid of the American army.

The militia were north with Washington that spring or farther south, in the Carolinas!

Who could think that that "genius" Cornwallis would invade Virginia before securing his northern and southern bases!

signed, PatientandTrueVirginian

197 posted on 09/09/2002 10:23:48 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: WaterDragon; Molly Pitcher; Lorena; sweetliberty; Neets; Mo1
To: washington-wobbles

I see you are more than living up to your name. So be it.

The Battle of New York brings into focus the variables which are inherent to ALL battles fought and won or merely delayed for a better day, which this one clearly was ... these include but are not limited to ... strength of character, leadership, commitment, a clean heart and a true vision.

You are correct. I will concede that General Washington made several strategic errors when positioning his troops ... 20,000 of them, split between Fort Washington in northern Manhattan ...(at or around what was to become 180th Street on the west side) ... and in Brooklyn Heights. Washington thus had troops on both sides of the East River --- all the way up and down Manhattan Island.

But Washington underestimated Howe's ability to amass ships ... using German mercenaries, eventually enjoinging Cornwallis, Count von Dunop --- and that absolutely despicable Commander whose name will go down in infamy as a souless miscreant ... Commander Clinton.

Add to that the fact that Manhattan was awash in Loyalists, the negative psychological impact this had on the Continental Army can not be overstated. Without a Navy to control the waters around New York Harbor, Washington's forces were split in half and surrounded.

The resulting battle, right in the middle of Manhattan, was of such a fierce and bloody nature, history will use it as a measure of war's fury ~~~ for nothing worse can be imagined.

Still, it was Washington's clear command, steely resolve ... inherent just character ... and the devotion he inspired from his troops which enabled him to retreat successfully, though with many casualties throughout. So thorough, was the retreat, that when the Brits finally made it to Brooklyn Heights ... they found nothing but useless, rusting buckets. HA!

We should remember Manhattan and the Battle of New York ... for it symbolizes all this great, young Country stands for ... courage, strength, resolve and faith.
Posted by: Mordecai Gist

198 posted on 09/10/2002 8:14:49 AM PDT by illstillbe
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To: illstillbe
I love this thread!
199 posted on 09/10/2002 10:44:04 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
Me too! Bumping to 200.
200 posted on 09/10/2002 3:40:27 PM PDT by Lorena
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