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Payback: Was Bill Clinton Rejected As An Augusta National Member?
September 4, 2002 | aas

Posted on 09/04/2002 2:05:01 PM PDT by an amused spectator

Martha Burk, über-feminist leader of the National Council of Women's Organizations, sent an extortion letter to Augusta National chairman Hootie Johnson on June 12 after Burk read reports about Augusta National not having women among its 300 members.

"We know that Augusta National and the sponsors of the Masters do not want to be viewed as entities that tolerate discrimination against any group, including women," was one threatening line in the letter by Ms. Burk.

Burk later released a purported letter by former Senator Sam Nunn that supposedly backed up her position. The letter was later found to be a hoax, but Burk continued to try to use the forgery to strengthen her indefensible shakedown attempt:

"Normally when we get a hoax, it's written with eighth-grade grammar," Burk said. "For instance, we received a forged letter, purportedly from Augusta National, that said women need to stay on their backs, [etc.]. But it was clear that a lot of thought went into [the Nunn forgery]. We thought it was going to be the first trickle of water we'd need to change the tide of Augusta National's membership opinion. I'm sorry he didn't write it."

Translation: "It almost doesn't matter" that Nunn didn't write the letter, to quote the famous line from John Leo's excellent book, Incorrect Thoughts. A lie that serves Burk nefarious shakedown attempt is a good lie.

Now, what does all this have to do with Bill Clinton, you ask?

Simple. Bill Clinton is a celebrity golfer. Almost every more-than-casual golfer would kill to become a member of the hallowed Augusta National Club.

Knowing Big Bill's ego, I have little doubt that he tried to get on the Augusta waiting list, and also knowing somewhat of the ways of Augusta National, I have equally little doubt that he was soundly rebuffed.

Martha Burk had 8 years in which Clinton ruled to pull a stunt like this, with guaranteed White House support, but she didn't. This is a very curious omission on the part of the Clintonites, who rarely overlook a chance to stick it to their cultural enemies.

It's my theory that if Burk broached the idea to the Clinton White House, she was warned off by her Clintonite masters.

A more likely theory is that a vengeance-minded Clinton sicced his toy poodle Burk on Hootie and Augusta after being rejected. This would be in keeping with standard Clintonite revenge tactics. Predictably, Begala, Clinton's attack chihuahua, savaged Hootie Johnson in a televised discussion of the subject.

Martha Burk's credentials as Clinton toy feminist poodle?

http:// www.commondreams.org/pressreleases/feb99/020499f.htm
National Women's Leaders Oppose Live Testimony At Senate Trial; Statement of Eleanor Smeal, President of the Feminist Majority; Martha Burk, signatory

http://www.civicweb.com/nwpc.html
Martha Burk Director of the Center for the Advancement of Public Policy told Ms. " The right wing has taken this opportunity to attack us . Its not because we elected Clinton. Rather, it’s that we stand for principles that his enemies are squarely against. " She also said "the reason we are in this mess is the deep-seated opposition to having women in the White House. Imagine Madeleine Albright in the White House and these questions being asked."

http://www.feminist.org/research/report/102_three.html
Women Leaders Take Action to Stop Impeachment, Warn What's at Stake for Women and Who's on Third to Succeed; Martha Burk, signatory

http://www.debatesdebates.org/archives/program130.html
Does Paula Jones Deserve Her Day in Court Now? Martha Burk position: "No"

http://www.debatesdebates.org/archives/program318.html
Was Clinton's Conduct Public, Not Private? Martha Burk position: "No"<

Martha Burk, editor of a women's newsletter, said, "She [Monica Lewinsky] will be enough of a celebrity to nail a good job with some entertainment company that wants glitz and notoriety. She won't lack for offers. I bet she'll go get a job as a talk show host."


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KEYWORDS: burk; clinton; feminism; hootie
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To: an amused spectator
So, absolutely nothing concrete regarding Clinton & AN?

I'm not sure that even NewsMax would be that shoddy.

41 posted on 09/04/2002 3:02:10 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: unixfox
You have to be INVITED and ACCEPTED by the other members.

That's one of Limbaugh's favorite screeds on Augusta, Clinton, and Bill Gates.

I don't fathom any of Augusta's members clamoring to get in to Burke's organization, being convicted of perjury, or
any of the possible lawyer members clamoring to get in to the club of being booted off(out?) of the USSC Bar or having
their licenses suspended.

Ms. Burke should feel free to start her own counter tourney, or her very own tour AND network (I hear the
pMSNBC franchise is looking for an audience.

42 posted on 09/04/2002 3:03:42 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: an amused spectator
This is not the first time Clinton's shadow has hovered over The Masters. Here's something I posted to the old Limbaugh Forum on CIS after the 1994 Green Jacket Ceremony:
If I'm not mistaken there was a small change yesterday in Augusta when it was time to present the Green Jacket to the winner of this year's Masters, and I think "Whitewater" may have played a part.

Augusta National Chairman Stephans was a no-show at the venerable ceremony. Vice Chairman Joe Ford stood in, even though Stephans had been interviewed about the on camera during the tournament about the weather or some other similar pleasantry.

Stephans is Jack Stephans of Stephans, Inc. based in Little Rock, Arkansas. LJ Davis, writing in =The New Republic= pointed out that "it became an axiom of Arkansas politics that someone could occasionally become governor without permission from Stephans headquarters, but the politician was unlikely to remain governor for very long unless he paid close attention to the care and feeding of the [Stephans] brothers."

ML/NJ
43 posted on 09/04/2002 3:23:17 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: mountaineer
I disagree with you on Bubba's try for the Augusta, and I do agree with the author. Bubba's ego, especially when he was President made his application all that much more believable. But, because Augusta's membership committee, and the members themselves, have strict rules, plus the fact that they are all honorable and true gentlemen, they would never....NEVER release the fact that Bubba was rejected. I'll also be willing to bet that he had political pressure put on them to vote him in. If I recall correctly, the last President to be "invited" to join was Eisenhower, and Bubba ain't never been good enough to be dog sh!t on President Eisenhower's golf spikes.

We never would know if an invitation to join was declined. Ford played (badly) and I don't recall him being a member (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). Carter didn't play, and he was an idiot. Ronaldus Maximus wasn't a player of the game. GHW Bush was a player but I don't recall him being a member either, although he may have been invited (again, we'll never know). Then there was Billy, avid golfer and cheater in the game (ask anybody...I've read stuff about the idiot that made me ill), and pond skum as a human being.

I think you combine all of Bubba's traits and the current situation, and you can only come to the conclusion that the author came to here, he was rejected for membership to Augusta National, and he put his attack dogs on the Club & it's members.

Well, Bubba it ain't going to work! You have finally met your match in Hero Hootie. I should imagine that between Hootie & the members that they could buy and sell you a hundred times over with pocket change. Besides, these are preceptors of 'The Game', they don't like cheaters, and they don't like phoneys. Oh yea, and seeing as how they don't invite women, that rauchey old lady of yours won't even be considered anyway. Take that on your coke mirror and snort it....a$$hole!

Sorry about the rant, but to even imagine that self centered, steaming LOAD as a member of Augusta National makes me deathy sick.

44 posted on 09/04/2002 3:32:32 PM PDT by timydnuc
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To: Paul Atreides
use the ball-washer after either one of them.

That's another unsubstantiated (unfortunately..)rumor; word is that "ball washer" was an unofficial part of the job description for "intern"....just a rumor, though.

45 posted on 09/04/2002 3:33:16 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: ErnBatavia; doug from upland
Get your evidence and DNA right here, FBI....


46 posted on 09/04/2002 3:37:39 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Republic
I would LOVE to have an email address for this golf club.

The Augusta National Golf Club is very old line, and I would have been very surprised to find a web site, and indeed I did not find one in a cursory search. There is, of course, www. masters.org, but that is not the club.

I expect the appropriate way to send your thanks is via U.S. Mail, handwritten in fountain pen on linen personal letterhead.

47 posted on 09/04/2002 3:48:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: an amused spectator
I admire the way Hootie Johnson handled the NWCO. Link

After Burk wrote to Johnson that the NCWO wanted to meet with him to discuss the matter, Johnson publicly and immediately responded that, "Our membership alone decides our membership -- not any outside group with its own agenda." The NCWO had threatened to pressure the club through the Masters' corporate sponsors, but Johnson has recently declared that this year's tournament will be broadcast commercial-free, rather than expose the sponsors to harassment.

Next year, any sponsors will understand upon entering an agreement that they will have to tolerate protests and threatened boycotts. That's a small price to pay for being the official candy bar, motor oil or deodorant of the Masters. The tournament will go on, and the threat will be nullified.

That isn't the sort of response that feminists are accustomed to. They're used to being able to drag offending parties into sensitivity training seminars to get their minds right. When somebody like Hootie Johnson, who is not at the mercy of a college administration or a corporate human resources department, says no to them, they're stunned by the reality that they have no power over him. What they require, then, is voluntary compliance, from an adversary who will go wobbly when confronted.

Enter an unsuspecting Tiger Woods, returning from an ordinary day on the job to be accused of being a hypocrite, just for minding his own business. His defensive answers are expected to be only the first step in a progression. Next is supposed to come the apology, then the begging for forgiveness. Finally, Woods is supposed to join the NCWO's cause, thus giving them a popular spokesman, as well as a facade of reason.

... But really. Do they expect the best golfer in the world to skip the Masters, just to pacify them? What do they intend to do when he doesn't, boycott all the products he endorses? It's unthinkable that any company would reject Tiger Woods as a spokesman over something as trivial as the Augusta protest, but even if it did, that wouldn't hurt him at all. He'd just sign equally big contracts with competing soft drink and shoe companies, and the ones that had dropped him would learn never again to cave in to a bunch of foot-stamping screechers like the NCWO.

When these feminist activists look at the Augusta National Golf Club, they see it the same way Mr. Potter saw the Bailey Building and Loan. They see something they can't get their fingers on, and it's galling them. Well, in the whole, vast configuration of things, the NCWO is nothing more than a scurvy little spider. It may look frightening, but if everyone just ignores it, it will be left to spin its own little webs, in its own little corner, as the rest of the world happily goes about its business.

And folks like me that don't normally watch sports might tune in just to spite the NWCO.
48 posted on 09/04/2002 3:51:26 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: unixfox
You do not solicit Augusta for membership. That is THE GOLDEN RULE of that club. You have to be INVITED and ACCEPTED by the other members.

Asking to be a member is a definite nail in the coffin for NEVER getting in. Thanks for the correction. I was unclear on that point.

Of course, it used to be gauche to lobby for a Nobel Peace Prize, too.

I bet we could hear some interesting stories from the members about not-so-chance encounters with members of The King's entourage. ;-)

49 posted on 09/04/2002 5:19:07 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Phantom Lord
Good analysis. You had some points that I wish I'd thought of and included.
50 posted on 09/04/2002 5:23:51 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Tickle Me Pank
So, absolutely nothing concrete regarding Clinton & AN?

I wasn't able to steal Defense Department notes or government documents, unlike CBS or the WP.

I'll bet there are some really, really interesting phone logs to Burk's office, though. Any lamestream media worth its Demo salt would have thrown the phone log accusation out there and let a Pubbie target stammer and stutter about why he couldn't release his phone logs. SDMOP, ya know. ;-)

51 posted on 09/04/2002 5:30:16 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Tickle Me Pank
Phantom Lord had a few good points:

To: an amused spectator

I doubt highly that Clinton was ever considered for membership, and I am not aware that he ever attempted to gain membership, but I wouldnt be surprised if he did.

I would not be surprised in the least (actually I would be surprised if it didnt happen) that Ms. Burk spoke to Clinton about the Augusta membership issue and he told her to hold off until she received further instructions.

I have no doubt that Clinton saw his support amoung women as very strong and there was little he could do to damage it. But he knew damn well that his support amoung men was not very strong, and those that did support him did so weakly. He knew that being a golfer (and a big CHEATER) he would get the questions on August membership practices. He could not come out in support of Augusta because it would piss off all the liberal groups that backed him. And he clearly could not come out in opposition to the policy because his very weak support among men would become even weaker.

In short, Ms. Burk was told to sit on it until it could be used effectively in the future.

27 posted on 9/4/02 2:31 PM Pacific by Phantom Lord

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I've been thinking about this, and I'm astounded that Burk didn't take advantage of the attitudes of the Clinton regime to get this done. You do understand that she had eight years to pull this mischief, don't you? And that it takes a certain amount of time to gin something like this up, also. We're talking a fair number of months. The lying hosebag didn't "hear news reports" about anything.

That's a standard Clintonista lie line.

Her whole conduct during the Clinton administration can be described with one line:

Clinton was Burk's chrome bumper hitch.

52 posted on 09/04/2002 5:43:45 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Howlin
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0209/03/cf.00.html

Crossfire September 2, 2002

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BEGALA: You know, things change slowly in the Deep South. Men still hold doors open for women, which I like. They still say, yes, ma'am, and no, ma'am, yes, sir and no, sir, which I like. But down in Georgia, they still haven't let any women become members of the Augusta National Golf Club. Well, it's no wonder that women are little teed off down in Augusta, Georgia. Joining us in the CROSSFIRE tonight is Philadelphia radio talk show host and television sports anchor, Howard Eskin, and here in Washington, Martha Burk, chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations.

Thank you all both for joining us.

CARLSON: There are organizations all over the United States that discriminate against men, women's colleges, the Girl Scouts of America, women's health clubs, et cetera, et cetera. You could spend your time trying to integrate those. But instead you're picking on a club that you're not even a member of. Why should you be able to control who gets invited? Why is it your business, anyway? Why don't you just go after a women's college?

MARTHA BURK, CHWMN., NATL. COUNCIL OF WOMEN'S ORGANIZATIONS: I'm not a member. You're right. I couldn't get to be a member. Let me just say this, the Girl Scouts, the women's aerobics club in Seattle, all of those kind of places, they don't host the highest profile sports event on the planet. They haven't injected themselves into the public eye the way these folks have spent millions of dollars to invite the public into their living room. Actually, I imagine that boys can join the Girl Scouts if they really want to. The fact is, though, this is a very public entity. It's the highest profile event on the planet in sports. These folks are living not in the last century, but centuries before or less.

CARLSON: So you're telling me that the new frontier in civil rights, as you see it, is allowing rich women to join Augusta? Is this the most pressing problem facing women in the world today? BURK: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And we work on all those pressing problems, believe me, Social Security, women in Afghanistan, better care child care, fighting laws that discriminate against women, trying to preserve Title IX so that young girls can continue to play sports. We work on those things every day. But the fact is this is symbolic. It's just another way, and women know it, whether they're golfers or not, women see this as just another example of the way they have been shut out. You know...

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: Let me bring in Howard Eskin into this. First, thank you for joining us, Mr. Eskin. There's a guy called Hootie Johnson (ph), I'm going to say Hootie as many times as I can say tonight, because it's such a goofy name. So Hootie and the Blowhards who run Augusta National claim that they have a right to free association. They have a private club that associates with whomever they like. and they have a point. Why don't women's group have a right as private citizens to boycott any products they don't like?

HOWARD ESKIN, WIP SPORTS RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Well, they can boycott the products, but Augusta National has now taken the endorsers out of the loop. So what this does, and what Martha is doing here, the PGA Tour donates a lot of money to charity, and in this tournament, the Masters has donated $3.3 million to charity last year. So now by taking the sponsors out of the loop, you have now hurt charities. And the real issue is here, Martha, you're fighting...

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: ... their bigotry, Howard?

ESKIN: Martha, you're fighting for yourself.

BURK: No, I never made this a public issue. Hootie Johnson did it. I wrote him private letter...

(CROSSTALK)

ESKIN: Yes. But you demanded - there are clubs...

(CROSSTALK)

BURK: And I said, look, reconsider this. It's the 21st Century. But let me get to that charity thing.

ESKIN: OK, Martha, but I...

BURK: They have made it clear that they're willing to pay somewhere between 4 and $12 million to continue to discriminate against women. They're taking money out of the mouths of their local charities to do it. I think that's pretty darn bad.

ESKIN: Martha, Martha, there are clubs in America that don't even allow women on a golf course. At Augusta National over a thousand women played as guests last year. Now if you get your way, and a woman is admitted as member, forced to be admitted as a member, she's going to be an outcast at that club anyway. Private means exclusive to one's rights. It doesn't mean you or somebody else and you're not fighting for women. You are fighting for yourself because in talking to women, who is going to be able to join Augusta National? Let's face it. I can't join, Paul can't join, Tucker can't join. None of us can join. So now you're taking on your own issue and it's ridiculous.

CARLSON: Well, Martha Burk, I want to ask you - you sort of slithered out of answering what I thought was sort of an important question a moment ago, that there are women's colleges, for instance, let's take Smith College in Northhampton, Massachusetts. Obviously it serves a much more important function than some golf club in Georgia. It doesn't admit men. That's discriminatory by your standards. And I'm wondering why you aren't outraged about it?

BURK: We are on record as being against single sex education.

CARLSON: But I want you to express a little outrage here as you did for some stupid golf club.

BURK: When Smith College has something that's as big and as symbolic as this, I'll be on the front lines. We are on record. We are on - this is a golf game.

CARLSON: ... get some perspective here...

BURK: Yes, I do know.

CARLSON: ... versus a university.

BURK: I do know that. This is a golf thing. And this is a symbolic gesture that they're making. They are standing at the barricades to keep women out of this. It's just symbolic of all the way women are...

(CROSSTALK)

BURK: Hey, women clean the johns in the locker room.

CARLSON: That's an outrageous thing to say. A thousand...

(CROSSTALK)

BURK: No. I'm sure they did, but they're not members and they're being excluded because of their sex, that's wrong. That's discrimination and I want to say in response to my colleague that the PGA Tour has said they will not hold a golf tournament at any venue that discriminates on the basis of race or sex. But you know what they did? they created a double standard for the old boys at Augusta. They said, this is not a real PGA Tour event, but we're going to recognize the winnings and we're going to recognize the tournament in the record. I think that's hypocrisy.

BEGALA: Mr. Eskin, isn't the problem here that these guys - their masculinity is somehow threatened. First off, let's be straight, golf is a weenie game, the clothes are effeminate, the language is wimpy, bogey, birdie, you know? The whole thing is just - it's really - these guys are just scared of their own masculinity.

ESKIN: It's not that exclusivity. Because women do play on that golf course unlike many golf courses in America, not many, some golf courses in America that don't allow a woman to set foot on there. But the reality of this situation is (INAUDIBLE), and you have got to know the history of this sport. This is not a PGA event. And you said they're tied to the hip. Martha, please. You said that the PGA is tied at the hip. You know, let me read your quote. "It's not tied at the hip to this club." Well, Augusta National owns the word Masters. They own that. It is their tournament to do what they want.

CARLSON: OK. Mr. Eskin, we're going to have to leave it there. Martha Burk, I'm sorry we are just plumb out of time, as much as I'd like to get more...

(CROSSTALK)

ESKIN: Fight real issues.

(CROSSTALK)

CARLSON: ... issues of golf and the effeminate and non-feminate nature of this...

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: Oh, what a bunch of weenies.

CARLSON: Thanks so much both for joining us.

Next, it's your turn to "Fireback." And in tonight's case, we'll chew the fat. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

53 posted on 09/04/2002 5:52:02 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: Tickle Me Pank
Interesting that other Presidents who have been golfers, like Eisenhower, who was a member of Augusta, probably been invited to play at the course. I imagine that Clinton during all his time in office was never even invited to play there and it bugs him to no end. Even more that he never will be or even offered a chance to join. They just would not want him around. There are several from Arkansas that have memberships at Augusta but none of those that do have ever invited Clinton to play there as a guest. What does that tell you???
54 posted on 09/04/2002 5:55:58 PM PDT by jjhunsecker
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To: Phantom Lord
BEGALA: Mr. Eskin, isn't the problem here that these guys - their masculinity is somehow threatened. First off, let's be straight, golf is a weenie game, the clothes are effeminate, the language is wimpy, bogey, birdie, you know? The whole thing is just - it's really - these guys are just scared of their own masculinity.

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Glad a real man like Paul Begala straightened us out on this, eh?

Begala's sport is sucking the chrome off Bill the Bumper Hitch. ;-)

55 posted on 09/04/2002 5:59:20 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: jjhunsecker
Hmmmmmmmmm...

It would be illuminating to know the truth about this one. Come to think of it, I don't recall him ever playing there, either.

His minions lobbied in his behalf for a Nobel Peace Prize. Wonder what kind of pressure was brought to bear on Augusta on the behalf of Clinton the Hutt?

I'm still wagering that Burk isn't doing this without his go-ahead.

56 posted on 09/04/2002 6:04:46 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
First off, let's be straight, golf is a weenie game, the clothes are effeminate, the language is wimpy, bogey, birdie, you know?



Hey Paul, I think the Pinnalce Distance Team would like to have a word with you.

I should note, in fairness to my main sponsor, I am a member of the Penley Shafts Long Drive Team. And I am sure some of my fellow team mates would like to have a chat with Paul.

57 posted on 09/04/2002 6:49:43 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: jjhunsecker
I just find it amusing that so many posters take such rank speculation seriously.

Can you name any other Presidents who were members of AN? Do you really think Ike was asked to join because he was / had been President?

jj said:

Interesting that other Presidents who have been golfers, like Eisenhower, who was a member of Augusta, probably been invited to play at the course.

58 posted on 09/04/2002 7:25:15 PM PDT by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Howlin
Naturally, Clinton lied. It appeared to others who observed his effort that his actual score was about 110. But, true to form, the man cheated to such an extent that in his own mind he did indeed have the lower score because he is Bill Clinton and he never, not ever, drops a ball after losing one in the woods, uses a size-11-foot wedge or fails to take a two-stroke penalty after his wild tee shots disappear in brambles so thick he'd need a chainsaw rather than a 4 iron to continue play.

What else would you expect from a man who would cheat his own daughter at miniature golf?

59 posted on 09/05/2002 1:27:02 AM PDT by altair
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To: unixfox
You do not solicit Augusta for membership. That is THE GOLDEN RULE of that club. You have to be INVITED and ACCEPTED by the other members.

Ah. That explains much. When this story first broke, I hunted for several hours on the Augusta National web site looking for rules regarding membership and failed to find any. Now I know. Thanks for the info.

60 posted on 09/05/2002 1:28:59 AM PDT by altair
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