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France against publishing secret documents on Iraq's weapons programs
Agence France-Presse | 9/04/02

Posted on 09/04/2002 1:56:47 PM PDT by kattracks

France said it was against publishing top-secret evidence on Iraq's alleged development of weapons of mass destruction, saying the public arena was not the place to wage such a campaign.

"These are not issues which we can deal with publicly. This calls for serenity and seriousness, and we should therefore beware of any leaks and any saber-rattling proposals," Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin told France Info radio.

On Tuesday, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said he would in the coming weeks release damning information about Baghdad's alleged efforts to develop nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, to prove the threat posed by Saddam Hussein.

The foreign minister said that France and Britain had shared information on the proof of such a weapons program. and it "is out of the question to divulge these exchanges."

De Villepin said it was important to act responsibly in evaluating whether a "country could own chemical or biological weapons, and if it could turn into a threat."

He added it was important that France evaluate such risks together with its European partners.

"The international community is today very worried, which justifies our determination in the face of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."

Washington on Wednesday stepped up its war rhetoric, with President George W. Bush calling Saddam Hussein a "serious threat" and saying he would take his case against Iraq to the United Nations next week.

De Villepin said "France, the world, cannot accommodate such a risk, and that is why we demand with insistance the return of the UN (weapons) inspectors to Iraq and that the country conforms with the demands of the international community."

If it did, he stressed, it was up to the UN Security Council to decide on any international action.

UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in 1998 in the face of an imminent US and British missile attack on Baghdad, and have since been barred from returning despite insistent UN demands.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; intelligence; iraq; regimechange; saddam; wmd
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To: July 4th
I think it's clear that France has had a hand in whatever Iraq has been doing since the Gulf War,

perhaps this is a good time to ask the question why only France knew to issue ciproflaxin to thier troops going into the Dessert Shield conflict, and why only their troops show no signs of Gulf War Syndrome...

In short how did the French know about Mycoplasma Fermentins Incognetus, a suspected bio-engineered mycoplasma that is linked to GWS and that Ciproflaxin would make their troops immune before ever going there? Is it perhaps because they helped Iraq develop it Hmmmm?

161 posted on 09/05/2002 4:16:34 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: shadowman99
Regardez-moi s'est lavé les mains!
162 posted on 09/05/2002 5:39:18 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: weegee
Thanks for the picture of Herr Shroeder! Another Islamakazi supporter of the elite whining weasels of Europe, who is defending Saddam and others who would destroy all of us!
163 posted on 09/05/2002 6:27:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: American in Israel
You posted a very chilling couple of remarks here:

this is a good time to ask the question why only France knew to issue ciproflaxin to thier troops going into the Dessert Shield conflict, and why only their troops show no signs of Gulf War Syndrome...

In short how did the French know about Mycoplasma Fermentins Incognetus, a suspected bio-engineered mycoplasma that is linked to GWS and that Ciproflaxin would make their troops immune before ever going there? Is it perhaps because they helped Iraq develop it Hmmmm?

Like millions of US, I knew nothing of this. I would assume that the Cipro was given to prevent problems with Anthrax exposure. 11 years ago, I don't think that too many people in the medical profession even knew that Cipro could be taken prophy wise to prevent death and serious illnesses following exposure to Anthrax.

If the French swines knew about: French know about Mycoplasma Fermentins Incognetus, a suspected bio-engineered mycoplasma that is linked to GWS and that Ciproflaxin would make their troops immune before ever going there. , we should send every vet who has suffered from GWS to Paris for treatment and a pension for life, paid by the traitors who rule France!

Do you have any documentation of this that we can bookmark for future discussions? Thanks for posting this.

164 posted on 09/05/2002 6:35:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Peach posted this great reply on this thread which really sums it up re the Euro Trash DNA scum pool: "From now on when meeting a Euroweenie we simply need to ask: Are you from the part of Europe whose ass we kicked or whose ass we saved?"

Wish I could claim credit but another Freeper made the comment a few weeks ago and I've used it ever since as it so adequately expresses how we should treat the Euroweenies.

165 posted on 09/05/2002 6:38:26 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Grampa Dave
If this data gets out, France and Germany will be promoted from the Axis of Whining Weasels to the Axis of Evil.

Love the Axis of Whining Weasels nametage and they should be called that forevermore whether the information gets out or not.

166 posted on 09/05/2002 6:40:35 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Grampa Dave
This may be the best of some incredible replies in this thread: From now on when meeting a Euroweenie we simply need to ask: Are you from the part of Europe whose ass we kicked or whose ass we saved.

Wish I could claim credit but as I mentioned in a previous post, another Freeper used it first a few weeks ago. Wish I could remember who - I'd give them the credit. Your comments are right on target regarding Axis of Weasel Whiners and the next few weeks will be interesting.

167 posted on 09/05/2002 6:46:41 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach
Between Axis of Whining Weasels and your "purloined comments" re "Did we save your A$$ in WWII or kick your A$$ in WWII, we are covering these Euro scumbags.

168 posted on 09/05/2002 7:05:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: weegee
< img src=http://www.iraqifd.org/unclesaddam/GrandMosque.htm >

Hmmm, looks almost like a nuclear power plant. The containment dome, the cooling towers...

(OK, I give up! What am I doing wrong in trying to post this image???) (I know to kill the spaces)...

169 posted on 09/05/2002 7:09:57 AM PDT by null and void
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To: andy_card
Give the "world community" the middle finger and start killing dictators.

You mean like Pervez Musharraf, Prince Abdullah, and Hosni Mubarack, our trusted "allies?"

In time, if needed...

170 posted on 09/05/2002 7:13:21 AM PDT by null and void
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To: Norvokov
OK, that whole "Surrender" line is getting a little old...

As soon as they stop doing it, we'll stop saying it.

This may take some time...

171 posted on 09/05/2002 7:16:20 AM PDT by null and void
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Thanks for the link! Here is what I sent to them:

"What has France been selling to Iraq? What does France want to keep undercover by resisting releasing information to support an attack on Iraq?

I am 1/4 French but I am glad my ancestors left your gutless country generations ago.

Should you cheese eating surrender monkeys ever get invaded again, I will actively protest any attempt by the USA to come to your aid.
172 posted on 09/05/2002 7:36:55 AM PDT by Wurlitzer
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To: null and void
You forgot the " " around the http address.
173 posted on 09/05/2002 9:05:06 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Grampa Dave
Well, I have read it all long ago and will do some searches to try and find links to the stories. This is a good background article on the Mycoplasma controversy

This one lists a number of doctors that are working on the problem.

There were 28 countries in the coalition which participated in the Desert Storm War with the U.S. troops, and 27 of them have come down with the GWI. Only France's soldiers do not have it. France did not let the troops take the experimental inoculations and pills which were forced upon the American and other allied troops.

And when their troops were exposed to Scud missile biological attacks, or began to come down with symptoms, the French immediately administered doxycycline to their troops and they quickly recovered. (Actually the French troops had doxycycline administered prior to and after their exposure to the biologicals).

Of the twenty-eight Gulf War coalition forces, Goss said, the military cadre of twenty-seven of those nations have contracted GWI. The only country that claims no infected personnel is France. Is it just coincidence that France is also the only member of the coalition that refused to allow their soldiers to receive vaccinations?...What else Goss uncovered was that the French, "before their military even left their ports to go to the theater, were giving their troops Doxycycline--500mg twice a day. They were giving them so much that these guys were vomiting and messing their pants" from reaction to the drug. (That by the way is a 500% overdose)

"What did they know," Goss questioned, "how did they know it and when did they learn it?"

This one is on a controversy that it was military experimentation, but I now with this thread think the French may have refused the vaccinations and used the Doxycycline simply because they knew what would and would not work. Suddenly the pieces of the puzzle are falling down in different patterns.

These links should give you a good starting place.

174 posted on 09/05/2002 9:47:02 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Grampa Dave
This confirms the French were GWS free

"Gulf War Syndrome and Gulf War Illnesses (GWI) are terms that have been used to describe a collection of chronic signs and symptoms reported by U.S., British, Canadian, Czech, Danish, Saudi, Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan and other Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed to Operation Desert Storm (ODS) in 1991...

The signs and symptoms of GWI have been reported by 27/28 of the Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed against Iraqi units in Kuwait and Southern Iraq. The only exception is France.

175 posted on 09/05/2002 9:56:42 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
Thanks for the links.

These links make your reply even more serious.

I just got an email from a MD friend who is a lurker, and he referenced me to some of Doctor Garth L. Nicolson's work and research. That data is very scary and ties right in with your data.

No wonder the bought out French W$ores don't want this data to get out.
176 posted on 09/05/2002 9:59:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: American in Israel
Thanks for this little piece of data:

The signs and symptoms of GWI have been reported by 27/28 of the Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed against Iraqi units in Kuwait and Southern Iraq. The only exception is France.

So what did the French w$ores know about what Saddam had, and when did they know about it? Did they sell this microbe to Saddam?

177 posted on 09/05/2002 10:02:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: American in Israel; MadIvan
Ivan, you might want to take a couple of minutes and do a quick review of what American in Israel has posted here re our French Buddies and some history of the GW that most of us are not aware of.
178 posted on 09/05/2002 10:03:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Well...here are the results of what I found in a search on the subject (without dealing with those horrid PDF files!)...

The signs and symptoms of GWI have been reported by 27/28 of the Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed against Iraqi units in Kuwait and Southern Iraq. The only exception is France... The French forces deployed to ODS did not receive multiple vaccines to protect against biological warfare agents, and this may turn out to be one of the most important reasons why the French reported few if any GWI cases. The other possible reasons were the locations of French forces and the types of protective suits used in ODS.

Source

``Military and civilian specialists believe today that differences seen between the French, Americans and English can be explained by a very different attitude towards vaccinations, dosages and mixes,'' Richard told parliament's defence committee. He added that one of the differences was that the French had not made their soldiers take regular doses of pyridostigmine bromide -- a drug used to help protect people against nerve agents known to be held by the Iraqis. ``The American and British allies by comparison made their troops take pyridostigmine throughout their stay (in the Gulf), which corresponds to very significant doses for the human organism,'' Richard said. He said French troops had only taken the anti-nerve gas drug for short periods during specific alerts.

Source

Canada has a few cases and some Czech cases have been reported. But France, who sent a large force, have reported no cases (Interestingly, France has now reported that her troops did take pyridostigmine bromide pills so it is hard to see what is different among French troops from the point of view of exposure.)

Source


179 posted on 09/05/2002 10:12:36 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
Another one...

There were 28 countries in the coalition which participated in the Desert Storm War with the U.S. troops, and 27 of them have come down with the GWI. Only France's soldiers do not have it. France did not let the troops take the experimental inoculations and pills which were forced upon the American and other allied troops. And when their troops were exposed to Scud missile biological attacks, or began to come down with symptoms, the French immediately administered doxycycline to their troops and they quickly recovered. (Actually the French troops had doxycycline administered prior to and after their exposure to the biologicals). The DOD forbids the use of doxycycline for the treating of U.S. troops for GWI - even now (five years later) in some VA hospitals. In order VA hospitals, however, physicians are beginning to treat GWI patients with doxycycline and other antibiotics.

Source

Also found this...which if what AII says is true and the French were somehow complicit, is a pretty scary thought...

Aventis announced March 29,2002 that it will donate 85 million doses of 40-year-old smallpox vaccine to the Department of Health and Human services. After five months of "secret negotiations," the France-based vaccine manufacturer has decided to "donate" its stock to the U.S. government at no charge.

Source

YIKES!

180 posted on 09/05/2002 10:28:40 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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