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To: American in Israel
You posted a very chilling couple of remarks here:

this is a good time to ask the question why only France knew to issue ciproflaxin to thier troops going into the Dessert Shield conflict, and why only their troops show no signs of Gulf War Syndrome...

In short how did the French know about Mycoplasma Fermentins Incognetus, a suspected bio-engineered mycoplasma that is linked to GWS and that Ciproflaxin would make their troops immune before ever going there? Is it perhaps because they helped Iraq develop it Hmmmm?

Like millions of US, I knew nothing of this. I would assume that the Cipro was given to prevent problems with Anthrax exposure. 11 years ago, I don't think that too many people in the medical profession even knew that Cipro could be taken prophy wise to prevent death and serious illnesses following exposure to Anthrax.

If the French swines knew about: French know about Mycoplasma Fermentins Incognetus, a suspected bio-engineered mycoplasma that is linked to GWS and that Ciproflaxin would make their troops immune before ever going there. , we should send every vet who has suffered from GWS to Paris for treatment and a pension for life, paid by the traitors who rule France!

Do you have any documentation of this that we can bookmark for future discussions? Thanks for posting this.

164 posted on 09/05/2002 6:35:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Well, I have read it all long ago and will do some searches to try and find links to the stories. This is a good background article on the Mycoplasma controversy

This one lists a number of doctors that are working on the problem.

There were 28 countries in the coalition which participated in the Desert Storm War with the U.S. troops, and 27 of them have come down with the GWI. Only France's soldiers do not have it. France did not let the troops take the experimental inoculations and pills which were forced upon the American and other allied troops.

And when their troops were exposed to Scud missile biological attacks, or began to come down with symptoms, the French immediately administered doxycycline to their troops and they quickly recovered. (Actually the French troops had doxycycline administered prior to and after their exposure to the biologicals).

Of the twenty-eight Gulf War coalition forces, Goss said, the military cadre of twenty-seven of those nations have contracted GWI. The only country that claims no infected personnel is France. Is it just coincidence that France is also the only member of the coalition that refused to allow their soldiers to receive vaccinations?...What else Goss uncovered was that the French, "before their military even left their ports to go to the theater, were giving their troops Doxycycline--500mg twice a day. They were giving them so much that these guys were vomiting and messing their pants" from reaction to the drug. (That by the way is a 500% overdose)

"What did they know," Goss questioned, "how did they know it and when did they learn it?"

This one is on a controversy that it was military experimentation, but I now with this thread think the French may have refused the vaccinations and used the Doxycycline simply because they knew what would and would not work. Suddenly the pieces of the puzzle are falling down in different patterns.

These links should give you a good starting place.

174 posted on 09/05/2002 9:47:02 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Grampa Dave
This confirms the French were GWS free

"Gulf War Syndrome and Gulf War Illnesses (GWI) are terms that have been used to describe a collection of chronic signs and symptoms reported by U.S., British, Canadian, Czech, Danish, Saudi, Egyptian, Syrian, Moroccan and other Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed to Operation Desert Storm (ODS) in 1991...

The signs and symptoms of GWI have been reported by 27/28 of the Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed against Iraqi units in Kuwait and Southern Iraq. The only exception is France.

175 posted on 09/05/2002 9:56:42 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Grampa Dave
Well...here are the results of what I found in a search on the subject (without dealing with those horrid PDF files!)...

The signs and symptoms of GWI have been reported by 27/28 of the Coalition Armed Forces that were deployed against Iraqi units in Kuwait and Southern Iraq. The only exception is France... The French forces deployed to ODS did not receive multiple vaccines to protect against biological warfare agents, and this may turn out to be one of the most important reasons why the French reported few if any GWI cases. The other possible reasons were the locations of French forces and the types of protective suits used in ODS.

Source

``Military and civilian specialists believe today that differences seen between the French, Americans and English can be explained by a very different attitude towards vaccinations, dosages and mixes,'' Richard told parliament's defence committee. He added that one of the differences was that the French had not made their soldiers take regular doses of pyridostigmine bromide -- a drug used to help protect people against nerve agents known to be held by the Iraqis. ``The American and British allies by comparison made their troops take pyridostigmine throughout their stay (in the Gulf), which corresponds to very significant doses for the human organism,'' Richard said. He said French troops had only taken the anti-nerve gas drug for short periods during specific alerts.

Source

Canada has a few cases and some Czech cases have been reported. But France, who sent a large force, have reported no cases (Interestingly, France has now reported that her troops did take pyridostigmine bromide pills so it is hard to see what is different among French troops from the point of view of exposure.)

Source


179 posted on 09/05/2002 10:12:36 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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