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To: American in Israel; MadIvan
Ivan, you might want to take a couple of minutes and do a quick review of what American in Israel has posted here re our French Buddies and some history of the GW that most of us are not aware of.
178 posted on 09/05/2002 10:03:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Another one...

There were 28 countries in the coalition which participated in the Desert Storm War with the U.S. troops, and 27 of them have come down with the GWI. Only France's soldiers do not have it. France did not let the troops take the experimental inoculations and pills which were forced upon the American and other allied troops. And when their troops were exposed to Scud missile biological attacks, or began to come down with symptoms, the French immediately administered doxycycline to their troops and they quickly recovered. (Actually the French troops had doxycycline administered prior to and after their exposure to the biologicals). The DOD forbids the use of doxycycline for the treating of U.S. troops for GWI - even now (five years later) in some VA hospitals. In order VA hospitals, however, physicians are beginning to treat GWI patients with doxycycline and other antibiotics.

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Also found this...which if what AII says is true and the French were somehow complicit, is a pretty scary thought...

Aventis announced March 29,2002 that it will donate 85 million doses of 40-year-old smallpox vaccine to the Department of Health and Human services. After five months of "secret negotiations," the France-based vaccine manufacturer has decided to "donate" its stock to the U.S. government at no charge.

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YIKES!

180 posted on 09/05/2002 10:28:40 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
From the Aventis website:

Swiftwater, PA – March 29, 2002 -- Aventis Pasteur, the vaccines business of Aventis Pharma, announced today that it will donate its smallpox vaccine inventory to the U.S. government’s emergency preparedness stockpiles. The inventory is estimated to be between 75 and 90 million doses with the exact amount to be confirmed by clinical studies. The vaccine comes from the company’s existing stock and has an estimated commercial value in excess of $150 million. It will provide a short-term safety stock for emergency use during this period of time in which the U.S. may be particularly vulnerable to a terrorist smallpox attack until new vaccine supplies are available.

The company has worked closely with numerous U.S. government agencies since October 2001 to prepare the vaccine for addition to the existing emergency stockpile. However, government agencies had been aware of the existence of the vaccine for many years prior to that date.

Clinical studies will be conducted by the National Institutes of Health to confirm efficacy and to determine the potential for diluting the vaccine, which could result in substantially more doses being available to the stockpile. The availability of this vaccine will help to more quickly achieve Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson’s goal that "every man, woman and child will have a vaccine they can say has their name on it." [Gee...]

The vaccine will be reviewed by the Food and Drug Administration as an Investigational New Drug (IND) for emergency use, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention serving as the sponsor. [Now THAT'S reassuring...NOT!]

< /tinfoil hat>

182 posted on 09/05/2002 10:36:04 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
Even less reassuring...

An apparent shortage of smallpox vaccine in the wake of September 11 has been solved - after 90m doses were found in a freezer. The long-forgotten stockpile was discovered by drug company Aventis Pasteur in France. In theory, it is enough to counter virtually any bioterrorism threat involving the virus. The US had launched a desperate hunt for supplies of the vaccine after the September 11 attacks after it was revealed that its own stocks would prove inadequate in the face of a biological attack.

BBC

This begs the question: can we trust them?

183 posted on 09/05/2002 10:45:59 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
Aventis pops up again...put on your tin foil hat...

During the late 1940s, I.G. Farben was “decartelized” by the Allied High Commission led by America’s John J. McCloy—a Philadelphia banker and lawyer with intimate ties to Rockefeller oil and banking interests. Farben stockholders received equal shares of Bayer, Hoechst, and BASF stock.(15,16) Later I.G. Farben progeny included American Home Products, parent to Baxter Corporation—maker of the smallpox vaccine along with the allied European Hoechst-Merck company, Aventis (previously Oravax-Acambis), which also is the sole producer of the West Nile virus vaccine.(17) The West Nile virus, several investigators revealed, sourced from Rockefeller University laboratories that received the germ from Northwest Uganda. There, in central Africa during the late 1930s, virus hunters operating in the vicinity of the Rockefeller pioneered International Agency for Research in Cancer, based in France, initially “isolated” and shipped the germ to America.(1,2)

In fact, American Home Products (AHP) was formed in 1926 but evolved largely under the same direction as Bayer, Hoechst and BASF, that is, from I.G. Farben/Rockefeller financial interests according to cancer investigator and author G. Edward Griffin.(17)

During WWII, Ayerst Laboratories joined AHP and Wyeth International Limited was formed. This company went on to “perfect” the smallpox vaccine according to company promotions.(18) The smallpox vaccine has been credited by many authors and investigators as having greatly contributed to the broad and rapid spread of HIV/AIDS across Africa.(1)

Additionally, The Genetics Institute, an offshoot of the Rockefeller initiated and dominated genetics industry, is a biotech research unit of AHP/Wyeth-Ayerst. The Institute contributes to Baxter’s product line of genetically engineered products, as does AHP, including the smallpox vaccine.(19,20)

Aventis Pharma, with headquarters in Frankfurt, Germany—coincidentally the home of I.G. Farben and the post-war CIA—was formed by Hoechst AG and Rhone-Poulenc S.A. during their merger in 1999. Aventis’s European operations are currently half owned by the Merck pharmaceutical company. (21)

In the United States, the politically powerful Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association (PhRMA) is directed by Aventis's CEO Richard Markham. Mr. Markham is also Chairman of the Task Force on Emergency Preparedness that has met regularly with Bush administration officials. The Bayer and Merck companies are also heavily represented in PhRMA and its bioterrorism task force.(21) Merck, it should be recalled, was a major recipient of the Nazi “flight capital” that escaped Germany, along with I.G. Farben and Hitler’s chief officers. On August 10, 1944, much of their money was transferred to Merck at the time this company’s president, George W. Merck, was America’s biological weapons industry director.(15) According to Paul Manning, who credited CIA director Allen Dulles for his intelligence and guidance in the book Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile, the “flight capital scheme” assured the rise of the Fourth Reich. Alternatively called the “Neuordnung” (i.e., New Order) in recently released, previously secret, Farben documents, their plans directed the merger and future growth of the global petrochemical-pharmaceutical and banking cartels. This information was disclosed by Manning and others.(15)

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184 posted on 09/05/2002 10:59:01 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
They have also been implicated in the spread of mad cow disease...

If organophosphates are indeed the causal factor in BSE and nvCJD, the agrochemical giants such as Monsanto, Syngenta, and Aventis have more to fear than litigation.

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I notice Bayer is listed on that website as being complicit in the cover up...even more strange is they bought out Aventis Environmental Science in June 2002.

185 posted on 09/05/2002 11:11:15 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Grampa Dave
Ivan, you might want to take a couple of minutes and do a quick review of what American in Israel has posted here re our French Buddies and some history of the GW that most of us are not aware of.

Grampa, I'm reading it and utterly enraged. If so then so many of our brave soldiers are suffering because the French would not speak up about what it is they gave to the Iraqis.

But this is so bloody typical of them. First commit the atrocity, and then go to the ends of the earth to hide the atrocity, and deny everything under a veneer of sophistication.

Regards, Ivan

186 posted on 09/05/2002 12:02:40 PM PDT by MadIvan
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