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Harvard professor argues for 'abolishing' white race
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^
| 9/4/02
| By Joyce Howard Price
Posted on 09/04/2002 5:05:00 AM PDT by DM1
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:39:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Noel Ignatiev, a founder of a journal called Race Traitor and a fellow at Harvard's W.E.B. DuBois Institute, a leading black-studies department, argues in the current issue of Harvard Magazine that "abolishing the white race" is "so desirable that some may find it hard to believe" that anyone other than "committed white supremacists" would oppose it.
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To: andy_card
... you're deluding yourself if you think Harvard isn't a top university.Well, it used to be!
But now it now ranks right up there with Patrice Lumumba University, or soon will, given the proclivities of these people on the staff and administration! A University that tolerates this sort of swill deserves to end in the dogpile of academic history, and will.
Why? Because it is intellectually dishonest, morally cowardly and institutionally deluded! That's not a long-term recipe for being a "top university".
So, why is this man still employed? When you can answer that question honestly you will see that "greatness" no longer resides there.
Yes, past Harvard performance and centuries of academic achievements in service to culture and learning have been admittedly outstanding. But, there are now simply too many t*rds floating around in their punchbowl to make it drinkable much longer. The fact this joke is still employed tells you the whole story of the rot that permeates Harvard.
Harvard has become part of the problem, not part of the solution. Marxist hot-bed hellholes - even disguised under the rubric of once-great universities - are simply that,... Marxist hot-bed hellholes, where the search for "truth" and "excellence" in learning has become a fecid bed of intellectually unsupportable conformity and indoctrination. The Harvard reputation has just not yet caught up with the Harvard reality.
It soon will.
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:03:08 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: Kermit
"This guy may be the son of immigrants, but he is so provincial in his focus on the United States. Everyone's seen those pictures from Afghanistan. Those desperately poor people are whites. Where is their 'white priviledge'?" Demonstrating that Ignatiev is fundamentally animated by anti-Americanism.
The racism is an added option, at no extra cost.
He is, after all, a practicing Marxist. He hates capitalism, for cryin' out loud, thus he hates America. And, hating America, he hates whites -- who created America.
And, at bottom, he hates that which shelters him: Harvard, itself.
Do you really believe that Ignatiev could achieve tenured professor status at a land grant college? How long would his act last at, say, Auburn? Or Texas A&M?
Would he even be hired at some place like Southwest Oklahoma State?
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:04:45 AM PDT
by
okie01
To: Puppage
EXACTLY! That is what gets my goat! I'm sick and tired of hearing "The Black so and so group", "The Black so and so and so and so" everything.......There are NO "White so and so" groups. That would be "Racist" .......hey, you know what, I think I'm going to start me a "White women of America" group, what do you think?
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:05:33 AM PDT
by
hunyb
To: DM1
Somebody needs to bring McCarthy back.
BUMP
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:07:09 AM PDT
by
tm22721
To: PLOM...NOT!
Among the "privileges" of being white, according to Race Traitor, are [...] and not being asked whether skin color or affirmative action got you a job.White privilege didn't do this. Affirmative action did.
But if white privilege really is a problem, why wouldn't a white person be asked whether skin color got them the job. It seems according to this guy, that's the major reason whites are employed.
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posted on
09/04/2002 8:43:22 AM PDT
by
Tao Yin
To: Tex-Con-Man
Ooops. Shoulda read it carefully.
To: billbears
What is wrong with our society when scum like this are allowed to work at an institution of "higher" education? Bill, you're right, Asa and his gremlins would be proud.
To: DM1
Since there is no such thing as a White race or a Black race or a Yellow race this proposal doesn't bother me. There is only a Human race which comes in many colors all beautiful.
To: DM1
Pissed? This guy is laughable. This guy is nothing more than a warmed over communist who has replaced "class" for "whiteness" as his all encompassing explantion for everything wrong with the world. That such a coffe shop, half educated, poseur is an actual professor at Harvard tells me that the Left is on it's last legs. It is utterly bankrupt and out of breath. This guy is the prime result of over 30 years of the undermining of all academic standards and the politilization of our schools. I hope this guy gets more airtime and more exposure! Such a "spokesman" for the ignorant, hateful, and lazy Left can only help the right.
To: asformeandformyhouse
Quite true enough.
However, I believe it is also true that too many have looke the other way for too long--else BILLDO AND SHRILLERY would have been run out on a rail the first time they stuck their evil heads up for any election anywhere.
I believe there CAN be a KIND or TYPE of collective guilt and responsibility and that at some point God will administer justice accordingly.
I do NOT believe in reparations. That sounds like utter idiocy to me. If they want to follow that idiocy, let them try and get reparations from the descendants of the African chiefs who so eagerly sold their ancestors.
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posted on
09/04/2002 10:10:40 AM PDT
by
Quix
To: andy_card
Anglo-Saxon hostility toward the Irish has a bit to do with the history of the British Isles, long before arriving here.
That arguement also fails to address Irish hostility to later immigrants and the general rule that incoming groups only go up the ladder as newer groups arrive to replace them. You ignore the (race based) Jewish/Italian/Irish sparring over various elements of the traditional 'underworld', Cuban disdain for Mexicans. Etc. It is faulty to lay it on either "white" or "Anglo-Saxon".
And you are incorrect in stating that African-Americans, or African immigrants, have not been 'offered that option". The only reasons you might suggest that are (a) Racist - setting black apart from all others, or (b) ideological. I'm hoping your conclusions arise from the latter source.
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posted on
09/04/2002 11:09:06 AM PDT
by
norton
To: norton
And you are incorrect in stating that African-Americans, or African immigrants, have not been 'offered that option". The only reasons you might suggest that are (a) Racist - setting black apart from all others, or (b) ideological. I'm hoping your conclusions arise from the latter source.What are you talking about? The overwhelming majority of blacks who came to this country, came here involuntarily as slaves. As such, they weren't given the chance to assimilate into ordinary American society. I thought that was self-evident.
To: DM1
Noel Ignatiev should off himself as leader of the vanguard. True leaders lead, cowards push.
To: DM1
I'm all for abolishing any "race" other than human. I would be happy to support the "humanization" of all of our laws.
To: mc5cents
What guy?
To: billbears
Sigh. What's sad is that there are liberals that believe him.
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posted on
09/04/2002 4:53:03 PM PDT
by
4CJ
To: andy_card
This is the new harvard college where our best and brightest are taught to hate mommy and daddy.
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posted on
09/04/2002 7:14:01 PM PDT
by
jd777
To: DM1
Mr. Ignatiev said the book told how Irish immigrants came to the United States and became "oppressors" by emulating American whites.Mr. Ignatiev needs to look up the word "irony" in relation to his dissertation.
To: DM1
In most places, ranting like this will rate you a dose of Prozac. At Harvard, however...
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posted on
09/04/2002 7:48:31 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
To: norton
"...And, no, I have no idea what "ponce" means nor do I know whether or not "ignatiev" is an intentional play on words like "ignite"; but I'd bet on it."I thought it was shorthand for "IGNORAMUS"!
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posted on
09/04/2002 7:52:43 PM PDT
by
albee
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