Harvard professor argues for 'abolishing' white race

THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 9/4/02 | By Joyce Howard Price

[DM1]

Noel Ignatiev, a founder of a journal called Race Traitor and a fellow at Harvard's W.E.B. DuBois Institute, a leading black-studies department, argues in the current issue of Harvard Magazine that "abolishing the white race" is "so desirable that some may find it hard to believe" that anyone other than "committed white supremacists" would oppose it.

[RippleFire]

BUMP

[jstone78]

Does that make him a white "Uncle Tom"? I guess we are begining to understand why some blacks use the "Uncle Tom" label on other blacks.

[andy_card]

Why would Harvard allow this man in its graduate program without his having an undergraduate degree?

I have a cousin, regarded as one of the world's leading biochemists, who got his doctorate from Columbia without an undergraduate degree. He's French, and he repeatedly failed the baccalaureate, and couldn't go to college. He went to New York, became a cab driver, and started taking night-school courses at Columbia's extension school. The guy was the most brilliant student any of the professors had ever seen, so they took him on and gave him a doctorate.

Degrees are only scraps of paper. I have four. You know what they do for me? They occupy space in a filing cabinet.

[Lockbox]

Harvard needs to be very careful with their current line up of Liberals.

Lets take the line “No, but I want to abolish the privileges“, who’s more privleged then those who attend Harvard?

Minority Enrollment, Fall 1999 (as a percentage of total enrollment) Black = 8%

http://www.news.harvard.edu/guide/students/stu15.html

According to the US Census for the year 2000, Blacks make up over 12% of the population in America. Hey Harvard where’s the other 4%? Hey Harvard you’re down by 1/3 the amount of blacks to equal the percentage living in America. Guess Harvard really only wants whites, what else could explain the short fall?

“like a private club“

Lawrence H. Summers took office as Harvard's 27th president in 2001.

Just another White Guy runs Harvard, when will a Black Man head Harvard?

"He's arguing against the mind-set and attitude that automatically grants privileges to white people he wants more fairness,"

After George Washington's Continental Army forced the British to leave Boston in March 1776, the Harvard Corporation and Overseers voted on April 3, 1776, to confer an honorary degree upon the general, who accepted it that very day (probably at his Cambridge headquarters in Craigie House). Washington next visited Harvard in 1789, as the first U.S. president. Since then, a few other men who were, or were to become U.S. presidents, have received honorary degrees:
John Adams, LLD 1781
Thomas Jefferson, LLD 1787
James Monroe, LLD 1817
John Quincy Adams, LLD 1822
Andrew Jackson, LLD 1833
Ulysses S. Grant, LLD 1872
William Howard Taft, LLD 1905
Woodrow Wilson, LLD 1907
Herbert C. Hoover, LLD 1917
Theodore Roosevelt, AM 1919
Franklin D. Roosevelt, LLD 1929
Dwight D. Eisenhower, LLD 1946
John F. Kennedy, LLD 1956

http://www.news.harvard.edu/guide/lore/index.html

Rich – Harvard’s Endowment is worth over 16 Billions Dollars

Establishment - Harvard College was established in 1636.

"The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race, which means no more and no less than abolishing the privileges of the white skin. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue, “.......

“We want to dissolve that club, to explode it”, I agree, BURN HARVARD BURN.

[junta]

This clown is another intellectual living in his utopian day dreams at the expense of us living in the real world. I'd say we send this overpaid idiot to a place where white skin has no privilege, Zimbabwe.

[norton]

I have a complete picture of Mr Ignatiev - based on a Monty Python skit in which Eric Idle opts to become a coal miner rather than following in the steps of his revolutionary university professor father.

Something about grading papers and destroying the system not being good enough for him...running off to dig coal for minimum wage with his ponce friends.

I wonder if the intended humor failed to come across when translated from faux-cockney into immigrant russian?

And, no, I have no idea what "ponce" means nor do I know whether or not "ignatiev" is an intentional play on words like "ignite"; but I'd bet on it.

[jstone78]

(.....And its true that the Irish became accepted into polite society only by emulating the dominant Anglo-Saxon culture, and by being displaced by other, lower-wage immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe. They were pushed into positions of power by having other, more subserviant immigrant groups thrust below them.....)

That is true. And those oppressed lower-wage immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe, came to believe that they were better than blacks, and were gradually accepted into the American mainstream. Asians seem to be following the same path, because they are now seen as the "model minority" (i.e. they are not lazy welfare bums).

[billbears]

fellow at Harvard's W.E.B. DuBois Institute

The ignorance continues ping. Didn't realize the DuBois Institute was so far over the edge. Sure gives the Frederick Douglass (agitate,agitate,agitate) Institute a run for the money

[mondonico]

This is classic Leftover Left Marxism, which substitutes race-war rhetoric for class-war rhetoric. This guy is a relic from the late '60s/early '70s. The fact that he has been preserved, like an insect in amber, at Harvard is an indication of what life is like in the looking-glass world of academia.

[norton]

Which describes every large influx of immigrants into any country, anywhere, throughout history.

What you and the author fail to realize is that by coming into a 'new' society the immigrant has, or should have, already committed to becoming part of that society.

Adopting it's values, laws, and ethics.

By NOT expecting that adaptation, and having at least a few immigrant (internal and external) groups sitting around demanding that the society change to accomodate THEM, the larger society places itself at huge risk.

Welcome to the 21th century.

PS: When my mother checked out her ancestery she found the name of the ship her key character came over on (late 17 hundreds) - the passenger list was two words: "Irish Laborers".

[mc5cents]

there are some white folk I wouldn't mind seeing abolished. Take bill and hillary, reno and the lizard. the four white commy lezzies(?) in the senate.

And this guy...

But can we really consider him "white"?

[missycocopuffs]

Every professor at one of these no-think tanks should be required to answer a question from a potential student in his/her class: "When I finish your course, what will I be able to take with me and use?"

Let's see:

Women's Studies class: "We will show you how to deconstruct the gender constructs of the patriarchy."

Literary Studies class: "We will show you how to deconstruct the linguistic constructs of the white male canon."

Black Studies class: "We will show you how to deconstruct the racial constructs of white privilege."

Environmental Studies class: "We will show you how to deconstruct the power constructs of corporate hegemony."

Student: "Yeah, but will any of this help me get a job."

Answer: "Yes, but only in academia, where you will be required to perpetuate the foisting of the deconstruction of constructs project upon impressionable, unsuspecting students."

Did I miss anything?

[KC_Conspirator]

Harvard is no longer a top university. All the great minds were purged years ago.

[andy_card]

What you and the author fail to realize is that by coming into a 'new' society the immigrant has, or should have, already committed to becoming part of that society.

I'm sorry, but blacks weren't really given that option. But yes, I'm in favor of the assimilation of immigrants.

By NOT expecting that adaptation, and having at least a few immigrant (internal and external) groups sitting around demanding that the society change to accomodate THEM, the larger society places itself at huge risk.

I agree, but its more complicated than that. I think we have an obligation to extend a branch to new Americans. You can't put all of the responsibility on them, unless you think that the Anglo-Saxons' anti-Irish discrimination was valid.

Welcome to the 21th century.

Thank you.

[andy_card]

Harvard is no longer a top university.

You must be joking.

[KC_Conspirator]

I'm serious as a heart attack. Sure, I still think their graduate schools are top shelf, but look at the garbage being pushed in this article? I believe that the undergraduate studies have been totally compromised and that it has gone downhill since the mid-80's when the old time professors retired only to be replaced by ideologues who never left campus when they first appeared as the SDS in the 60's.

[andy_card]

Sure, I still think their graduate schools are top shelf, but look at the garbage being pushed in this article?

Well, having read the book in question, I know that at least a portion of this article is highly misleading. But even admitting that a majority of the faculty and students are wacko leftists, Harvard College still provides one of the best undergraduate educations anywhere. Nowhere are you going to find a better qualified student body or faculty, and frankly, you're expected to disagree with your professors. A number of other schools generally provide equivalent academic environments, and a great number can provide equivalent educations to motivated students, but you're deluding yourself if you think Harvard isn't a top university.

That said, I'm not a graduate of the College, though I did get a couple of degrees from one of the graduate schools.

[Notforprophet]

Mr. Ignatiev was accepted to the Harvard Graduate School of Education without an undergraduate degree.

Now how did that happen? And then he goes on to become a lecturer and professor at Harvard, without ever completing a Bachelors Degree? WTF?

[KC_Conspirator]

Well, we will just have to disagree then. Even though they just reinstituted a ROTC program after banning any military visits for decades and just introduced supply side economics, they still are engaged in alot of suspect behavior. The anti-Semitism allowed on that campus may not be Cal-Berkeley levels, but its should not encouraged as when they had a terrorist speak at commencement some months back.

[Bob]

,,,and not being asked whether skin color or affirmative action got you a job.

Simple solution - Do away with 'affirmative action' (aka legal racism) and you won't have to deal with that particular issue.