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Tour pros next in Augusta lobbying effort (Hootie Responds)
AP ^ | Sept. 3, 2002 | AP

Posted on 09/03/2002 12:46:50 PM PDT by jern

Tuesday, September 3, 2002 Burk says players 'need to take a moral stand'

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ESPN.com news services

The fight between the Augusta National Golf Club and Martha Burk, the chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations (NCWO), grew even a bit more testy on Tuesday.

Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show on ESPN Radio, Burk said that her organization will begin targeting PGA Tour players in a bid to force Augusta National to allow women members.

The players "need to take a moral stand," Burk told Patrick.

"I think Augusta will eventually see that it will be in the best interests of their club ... to do the right thing and allow women members," she later said in the interview.

Through a club spokesman, Augusta National chairman Hootie Johnson issued a written response to Burk. It said:

"1. This is not a legal issue. The Masters has a constitutional right to its private membership.

"2. Martha Burk tries to equate this to the Shoal Creek racial issue in 1990, but they are totally different. In America, there are women's colleges, the Girl Scouts of America and women's health clubs throughout the country. In Canada and overseas, there are women-only golf clubs.

"3. The Club possibly will have a woman member in the future, but it should be the Club's decision, not the decision of an outside group that knows little about the Club or Tournament. In Ms. Burk's initial letter, she placed a deadline on the Club to have a woman member (2003), and discussed the sponsors of the Tournament.

"4. The winner in this sponsorship issue is the viewer. There will now be 12 ½ hours of commercial free golf coverage.

"5. What is presently happening is a corporate campaign. The National Council of Women's Organizations is targeting anyone associated with the Masters.

"6. The reason we chose not to ask the sponsors to participate in 2003 was to spare them the inevitability of a continued corporate campaign that could have included protests and boycotts.

"7. Dr. Burk is now telling individuals what to watch on television. In three online polls conducted this weekend, nearly 90 percent of respondents said they would continue to watch the Masters on CBS. Over 4.3 million women watched the Masters last year.

"8. The Masters and Augusta National are different. One is a private club, and the other is a world-class sporting event that is completely inclusive.

"9. The Masters is being used as a symbol. Several other Clubs do not allow women to play or even to enter the grounds. Women play at Augusta National regularly, and there are no restrictions on tee times. Women played over 1,000 rounds at the Club last year."

Last week, Burk said that she will talk with CBS about its televising of The Masters, which will be commercial-free next year. Johnson announced that The Masters will drop its sponsors -- IBM, Coca-Cola and Citigroup -- to shield them from any controversy over the club's all-male membership.

Augusta National has not had a woman member in its 69-year history. It has had black members since 1990.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: augusta; burk; masters; national; ncw; players; women
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To: mewzilla
Can I ask a silly question? Allowing women to be members of a golf club does NOT mean that guys have to golf with them. I guess I just don't understand the He-Man Women Hater's Club aspect to this.
Sure, just as allowing men to be members of a female only health club does NOT mean that women have to lift weights with them. I guess I just don't understand the She-Woman Man Hater's Club aspect to this.

patent  +AMDG

101 posted on 09/03/2002 3:38:24 PM PDT by patent
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To: Wolfstar
You are a genious. Great points.
102 posted on 09/03/2002 3:39:48 PM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: jern
Hootie was more than fair to this woman. My response would have been much shorter:

Dear Ms. Burk,
Bite me!
Respectfully,
Hootie Johnson, et al.

It's not about the golf. It's about their rights as a private club.

103 posted on 09/03/2002 3:51:44 PM PDT by Pablo64
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To: clintonh8r
Frankly, I hope Augusta sues these bitches for tortious interference.
Ooooh, I like it! Hit 'em in the pocketbook where it'll get their attention.

I'm an occassional golfer who'd never be able to afford the membership at a club like Augusta (if women were allowed) and I can not appreciate the fuss. Their private club, their legal right. Some folks need to get over it!

How many women could possibly benefit from a change in Augusta's charter? Shouldn't these women's organizations focus on doing something productive for a change?
I've said it before, I'll say it again: NOW sucks.
104 posted on 09/03/2002 4:11:55 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: mewzilla
Can men not belong to brotherhood organizations anymore. There are exclusively women organizations and affilitates all over the country, and I'm willing to gander that the number of female exclusive clubs is higher than the number of male exclusive clubs.

Augusta National is a private club, and it has a right to allow whoever it wants. It has a right to be an all-mens club if it so chooses.

Why are you equating the freedom of association, as well as brotherhood, with hating. That's a communist ploy, and its time people stopped being deceived by such.

105 posted on 09/03/2002 4:49:45 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: 3k9pm
I think that it was an excellent move, as it takes away a lot of the negative press, catered to by the communist media, and it alleviates the potential for disruption of this event. Absolutely brilliant idea.
106 posted on 09/03/2002 4:51:26 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Texaggie79
I thought that they were talking about Darius Rucker, too.
107 posted on 09/03/2002 4:52:09 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Texaggie79
That is, when I first read the title.
108 posted on 09/03/2002 4:52:25 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: pactolusghost
NOW I KNOW WHY TIGERS EAT THEIR YOUNG. TELL THE WAITER THIS MEAT IS LOW GRADE DOG FOOD. ALSO, I CAN STILL SEE THE MARKS WHERE THE JOCKEY WAS HITTING IT.

LOL!
The last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it! ;-)

BTW, do try to get that "CAPS LOCK" key fixed, as there's no need to shout. Eh? :-)

109 posted on 09/03/2002 5:20:41 PM PDT by michigander
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To: PLK
Why do golf courses have "women's tees". isn't that descriminatory? In the name of equality you wouldn't you think that the Women's group would be protesting? Move the damn tees back and make it equal.
110 posted on 09/03/2002 5:24:39 PM PDT by bfree
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To: mewzilla
I note with delight that your queries have been more than adequately answered.

I can only assume you are happy now. ;^)
111 posted on 09/03/2002 5:46:34 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: headsonpikes
FWIW, the hubby agrees with you. But he can't give me a decent answer on why the gender of a member matters, either. Just because a person can do something doesn't always mean they should. It's that simple.
112 posted on 09/03/2002 5:48:57 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: bfree
BTW, there will come a day when a female golfer comes along who can drive as far as the guys in the PGA. All I can say is that if she wants to play with the men, playing by the same rules and WITHOUT any handicaps or special considerations, God help them and God bless her :)
113 posted on 09/03/2002 5:51:14 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: michigander
To: Martha Burk I'm sure you were something before electricity. Hey, you wanna make $14 the hard way?

Honey, I don't know what your doing here, but you're sitting on a gold mine!

114 posted on 09/03/2002 5:52:10 PM PDT by tet68
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To: mewzilla
Don't lose your sense of humor; you survived this! ;^)
115 posted on 09/03/2002 5:56:27 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: mewzilla
FWIW, the hubby agrees with you. But he can't give me a decent answer on why the gender of a member matters, either. Just because a person can do something doesn't always mean they should. It's that simple.

Just because you don't understand , or think it proper, doesn't mean they should not do it, however!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a free choice thing!

116 posted on 09/03/2002 6:05:56 PM PDT by T Wayne
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To: mewzilla
BTW, there will come a day when a female golfer comes along who can drive as far as the guys in the PGA.

Keep dreaming. The LPGA's top players, even with the advent of titanium clubs and other tech advances, can not hit the ball as far as Bobby Jones and Sam Snead of the early 1930's were capable with hickory shafts and hard rubber potatoes.

Just like the problem with women firefighters, upper body and leg strength does make a difference.

117 posted on 09/03/2002 6:26:47 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: Texaggie79
When the Scotts' invented the game, it was an acronym for: Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden!!
118 posted on 09/03/2002 6:45:12 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: NYTexan
Indeed it was, but I was trying to be subtle..... :)
119 posted on 09/03/2002 6:48:49 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: mewzilla
Sororities aren't exactly men hating organizations but they won't let me join one. Sigh...
120 posted on 09/03/2002 6:56:49 PM PDT by flying Elvis
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