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Rhetoric of blame is now a white lie (AFRICA, HEAL THYSELF)
The Daily Telegraph ^
| September 3, 2002
| Tim Butcher
Posted on 09/02/2002 10:07:01 PM PDT by MadIvan
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I am sick to death of Mugabe, Mbeki and their ilk. South Korea, Taiwan, et al, show what happens if you stop blaming others for your problems and get on with the job of building the country; however these countries seem to prefer to whinge about everything. Sod them. Let them starve.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
09/02/2002 10:07:01 PM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: Clive; *AfricaWatch; Dog; Desdemona; texasbluebell; Amelia; nopardons; general_re; dighton; ...
Bump!
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posted on
09/02/2002 10:07:40 PM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
Couldn't agree mwith you more.
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posted on
09/02/2002 10:12:48 PM PDT
by
nopardons
To: MadIvan
Absolutely right. Throwing food and money at these backward savages, so that they can breed even greater numbers of backward savages than they could if left to their own devices is, at best, foolhardy. If their governments prevent the farmers from farming their land, then let the stupid idiots eat dirt.
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posted on
09/02/2002 11:37:02 PM PDT
by
SaudiDuck
To: MadIvan
the New Partnership for African Development (Nepad)Boy, did they pick the perfect acronym or what? They're all on their "nepads" for Mbeki and Mugabe like an entire continent of Monica Lewinskys.
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posted on
09/02/2002 11:43:41 PM PDT
by
Timesink
To: Timesink
One problem they have in seeking their own solution to their problems is that they receive just enough encouragement from the liberal leftists in the world to keep them agitating. Everybody wants a free meal. The secret lies in deciding what chance you have of getting it. For most people the answer is slim to none as they have to learn.
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posted on
09/03/2002 12:45:40 AM PDT
by
meenie
To: MadIvan
Fully agree with your conclusions. I remember Africa in the 1960s, everyone was filled with high expectations after independence. Forty years on, Africa is a series of kleptocracies, many worse off than they were under colonial rule. Almost all of the common people in relative worse shape to the rest of the world than they were before independence. Africans after 40 years have no one to blame but their own leadership for their problems. The leaders want to deflect blame to the West. The West's not buying it anymore.
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posted on
09/03/2002 1:28:03 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: nopardons
I remember when I first visited South Africa, which was just before the transition. I thought "What a beautiful, wonderful country". I loved it, I thought it was a great place to live.
The last time I visited was 2000 - I will not go back again. It has fallen straight into hell and it does not look like there is any return to the beautiful country I once knew, and fell in love with.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
09/03/2002 1:33:14 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
Yes, I know. It is heartbreaking. :-(
To: MadIvan
"What makes me so angry is that I can see no difference between the wrongs of slavery from the whites and the wrongs of the current system where an unelected black elite exploit just as much," said a Zimbabwean student from Bulawayo."A government like Mugabe's has all the bad features of white rule without any of the good."
One short clear, concise statement says it all.
To: nopardons
Yes, I know. It is heartbreaking. :-( Sometimes I wear a Springboks shirt as a sign of rememberance. ;)
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
09/03/2002 1:58:25 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
My daughter has a hat with that logo. :-)
To: nopardons
My daughter has a hat with that logo. :-) Perhaps one of the South Africans here will correct me, but I think it is right to say that the Springboks are one of the last remaining symbols of the past - in particular the English and Afrikaner cultures there. Even with that peculiar new SA flag on their sleeves.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
09/03/2002 2:02:04 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
Yes, you ARE correct. :-)
To: nopardons
Yes, you ARE correct. :-) Good, so since I am wearing my Springboks shirt today, I'm being politically incorrect as well. ;)
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
09/03/2002 2:11:47 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bump!
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posted on
09/03/2002 2:42:01 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan; All
To: MadIvan
I've had to good fortune to have several South African friends who long ago emigrated to the States. I'll never forget their stories about dealing with the natives. One in particular:
The family hired domestic help (a common practice) but objects from the household and pantry items were constantly going missing. When the maid was finally caught and confronted, she admitted it, saying that if she didn't steal from the whites and bring her loot to the village at night she would get a beating. Even a cup of sugar would do, as long as she stole it. The family could never convice their help of property rights. They tried to thwart the problem by purchasing items the natives she could take back to the village. But it wouldn't work, because they refuse "gifts" from the whites. I was told this behavior colored every aspect of their dealings with the natives.
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posted on
09/03/2002 12:59:19 PM PDT
by
GVnana
To: MadIvan
I am sick to death of Mugabe, Mbeki and their ilk. South Korea, Taiwan, et al, show what happens if you stop blaming others for your problems and get on with the job of building the country; however these countries seem to prefer to whinge about everything. Sod them. Let them starve. Geez. Whatever did South Korea do to you?
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posted on
09/03/2002 1:02:06 PM PDT
by
cinFLA
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