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Why do Bush/Ashcroft continue anti-gun policies?
Keep and Bear Arms ^
| 28 August 2002
| Harry Schneider
Posted on 08/28/2002 5:16:11 PM PDT by 45Auto
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posted on
08/28/2002 5:16:11 PM PDT
by
45Auto
To: 45Auto
boomp
To: 45Auto
"We must conclude that Congress seeks to abrogate administrative and judicial rights it created, by using funding bills, after declining to address actual amendments to or revocation of the creating statute. "Its a very neat and totally illegal method of denying a citizen his Constitutional rights. Denial of rights by refusing to fund a review process. Rotten bastards.
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posted on
08/28/2002 5:24:13 PM PDT
by
45Auto
To: 45Auto
...this includes foreign felony convictions for the crime of smuggling bibles into Communist countries or teaching Christianity in certain Islamic countries. Don't you know that Bible smugglers are a menace? /sarcasm.
I can see why the government wants to keep guns away from violent people. But non-violent people are another matter. Bible smugglers, now that is going a bit too far. LOL!
To: 45Auto; *bang_list; Joe Brower; wardaddy; Squantos
Bang!
To: glock rocks
Q: Why do Bush/Ashcroft continue anti-gun policies?
A: Because they are statists.
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posted on
08/28/2002 5:54:05 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
To: 45Auto
I'm constantly amazed at how anti-gun this administrations actions have been. They spout nice phrases from time to time, but offer =no= actions to back up their words. How utterly typical of republican politicians.
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posted on
08/28/2002 5:58:28 PM PDT
by
zeugma
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To: 45Auto
Grass roots gun rights activists are aware of this and if Bush does not change soon, his anti-gun policies may harm the election chances of other establishment Republicans. I have to laugh at this. How many Americans even KNOW anyone who's committed a felony, much less having committed a felony themselves?
Felons shouldn't have guns. Period.
I'd think time would be better spent elsewhere than in trying to make the case to let criminals possess firearms.
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:01:29 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: zeugma
I'm constantly amazed at how anti-gun this administrations actions have been. They spout nice phrases from time to time, but offer =no= actions to back up their words. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. What gun rights have you lost under Bush?
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:04:33 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
To: glock rocks
Because they can>
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:15:29 PM PDT
by
philetus
To: 45Auto
Felons give up all kinds of rights. Liberty, the pursuit of happiness and sometimes the big one, life.
Bush/Ashcroft have made it quite clear that the RTKABA is an INDIVIDUAL right.
Find me another administration who has taken that position.
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:18:48 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: zeugma
Would you care to comment on the fact that Ashcroft filed a brief with the Supreme Court stating that the second amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms irrespective of his ties to a state militia? This was a reversal of govt policy going back 40 years.
To: 45Auto
Bush stated flat out that he and Ashcroft would strictly inforce the gun laws on the books.
To: sinkspur
The court states:
"We are mindful of the serious concerns articulated about convicted felons regaining the right to possess firearms, and of the need for congressional review and enhancement of the safeguards and procedures for appropriately accomplishing this apparently worthy goal,"
Sinskpur you state:
"Felons shouldn't have guns. Period."
Amendment II states:
"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, SHALL NOT be infringed."
What part of "shall not" is not understood?
In addition, no where in Art I, Sec 8, Powers of Congress, is there a reference to felons losing their right to keep and bear arms or for that matter any right.
Felons retain the right enumerated in Amendment VIII:
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
It is disingenuous, absurd, and illogical that a portion of the Bill of Rights is suspended by Congress, which has no explicit power to do so, one enumerated right while another enumerated right can never be suspended by Congress.
There is absolutely no reference to "compelling state interest" stated in the Constitution for the Congress to invoke to constiutionally suspend rights.
This is congressional and judicial corruption at its worst.
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:29:06 PM PDT
by
tahiti
To: Noumenon
Bingo. Give that man a cigar.
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posted on
08/28/2002 6:33:36 PM PDT
by
Lurker
Comment #17 Removed by Moderator
To: sinkspur
This almost doesn't sound like a gun rights problem as much as a Judicial rights problem. How in the world can someone be called a felon for doing something in another country that would be perfectly legal here? Lose your rights because you had a beer in Saudi Arabia?
To: Sgt. Fury
By the way, Bush's primary problem is that he is as dumb as a box of rocks.Stupid statement of the week.
To: Noumenon; 45Auto
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