To: FormerLurker
Too many facts for you to "deal" with VA?
Too much fiction. In every one of those made up stories, the perps got what they deserve.
To: VA Advogado
Too much fiction. Either point out any item that is factually incorrect, or retract your statement. You wouldn't want people to consider you to be DISHONEST, would you VA?
In every one of those made up stories, the perps got what they deserve.
Are you saying that all of the innocent victims of government violence "deserved it"?
- Do you also feel that Hitler was justified in exterminating Jewish men, women, and children?
- Do you also feel that Stalin was justified in his atrocities against mankind?
- Do you feel that the WTC victims deserved what they got too?
To: VA Advogado
Did this "perp" get what he deserved in your book VA?
Andre Burgess (shot, not killed, for holding candy bar)
A federal undercover agent working on a "High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Task Force" in Queens, NY, shot a local high school student when he mistook a candy bar in the youth's hand for a gun. 17 year-old Andre Burgess, captain of the Hillcrest High School soccer team, was walking down 138th street in Laurelton, Queens, when the carload of Federal agents rolled by and one officer, identified by the New York Daily News as William Cannon, jumped out.
Cannon apparently identified himself, but, according to Burgess, gave the teen no time to react. "I turned to see what was up, and boom, I'm hit, and I fell to the ground." Burgess also described the callousness with which the incident was handled even after it was discovered that he had been unarmed and apparently wholly uninvolved in any criminal activity.
"I'm laying there, bleeding, waiting to go the hospital, and he's shaking hands with the other cops, or agents, or whatever they were," he said. "He asked one of them, 'Don't I know you from some other case?' And I'm still lying there."
DRCNet Executive Director David Borden commented, "The incident is reminiscent of the Esequiel Hernandez killing in Redford, Texas, by U.S. Marines. In neither case did the aggressors provide appropriate medical assistance to their victims. Fortunately, Burgess was not fatally wounded. But then, this is only the one incident out of many that happened to get some press."
To: VA Advogado
the perps got what they deserve My God ... what a sick and demented thing to say. I suppose the Modesto child deserved it to. IMHO you are a very ill person in desperate need of a good pyschiatrist and/or a long vacation at the local sanitarium. You exhibit the EXACT behavior that violent drug users are accused of and IMHO are only a hairs breath away from climbing a high tower with a high powered rifle. I sincerly hope you are NOT in ANY position of authority or influence over anyone else.
To: VA Advogado
Did this "perp" deserve what he got too VA?
Robert Adams
On October 4, 2000, 61 year old John Adams of Lebanon, Tennessee was gunned down by police raiding the wrong house looking for drugs. He was watching tv when armed men burst through the door. His wife Loraine Adams, who said that the armed invaders did not identify themselves as police until after the shooting, was handcuffed and thrown onto her knees in a different room while her husband bled to death. Police Chief Billy Weeks said that the shooting was not the fault of the two officers who shot Grandpa Adams, Officers Kyle Shedran and Greg Day. The raid was blamed on false information from a police informant.
To: VA Advogado
Maybe these "perps' deserved what they got too, right VA?
Pat Eymer (unarmed, shot while holding 5 year old daughter, survived)
On 10-23-98 at approximately 7:30am in Sallisaw, OK. a drug raid took place and a private residence was swarmed by a team of police to "serve" a drug related arrest warrant. Inside this residence was a 13 year old teenage girl, a 5 year old little girl, a 4 month old infant, their Mother, Dad and another couple that had stopped by for a cup of coffee on their way to a fishing trip.
Armed agents poured in screaming and waving guns at people. The mother reached for her 5 year old to keep her from running in terror and as she held her frightened daughter her shoulder was blown off by one of the trained terrorists! NO FIREARMS were in the house and the mother was in the kitchen several feet away from the armed and dangerous men. The 13 year old passed out at the sight of seeing her mother shot down in her own home and the 5 year old went into total hysteria (remind you of Ruby Ridge?).
Casey Eymer, age 5
Being held by mother when
police shot off mom's shoulder
One of the agents was reported to have asked "who fired?" at which time there was a period of silence while they looked at one another. The mother, Pat Eymer, is at this time in the Sparks hospital in Ft Smith, AR. The dad, Steve Eymer is still in jail as well as the couple that thought they were going to go fishing, the children are in the care of the state while the grandmother who came in from out of state to get the children is not allowed to even see them until there is a court hearing on 10-26-98.
Now, whether Mr Eymer is guilty or not is not an issue with me, what bothers me are the goofy, stupid, dangerous, cruel, idiotic, irresponsible, unamerican, and cowardly tactics used by these agencies to "serve" arrest/search warrants. If these so called "men" are so scared of being hurt, they need to get out of the business and let people with common sense and decency tend to these matters. If this was an isolated incident, a huge law suit and public apology may serve for justice but this is becoming a regular pattern in this country for the past several years now. Talk about CHILD ABUSE!
I don't know how many inches away from the head of this 5 year old little girl that bullet passed in order to blow the shoulder off of this dangerous unarmed mother, but if it was in the same house, it was too close. This was the act of a coward robot which could not control his fear!!!
The Sallisaw police dept. have filed no charges on the Mother or anyone else at this time, they told Steve (the dad) that they could hold them for 72 hours without filing any charges and so far they have. Steve says there were no firearms or drugs in that house. Would the police be capable of planting evidence in order to cover their butts??? No matter how much evidence is produced, I don't know of ANY thing that could justify shooting an unarmed woman with a 5 yr old in her arms.
I pray for our country and the world to be rid of this satanic, ego driven evil.
Submitted by Ken Smyrl
kdsmyrl@lcc.net
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