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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction.
25 posted on 08/27/2002 9:46:58 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Actually, I think he's referring to coming back to life after being killed.

A stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles

29 posted on 08/27/2002 9:50:43 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: jlogajan
Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction

You missed the point entirely.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you BELIEVE to be true, is a common virtue.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you KNOW to be untrue, is extremely rare.

39 posted on 08/27/2002 10:02:48 AM PDT by GSHastings
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To: jlogajan
Posted by jlogajan to OrthodoxPresbyterian On News/Activism Aug 27 9:46 AM #25 of 38 ~~ Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction.

Only the Apostles weren't interested in "dying for their religion".

They were simply willing to die rather than deny their own eyewitness knowledge of the resurrection of Jesus Christ -- hardly something for which a man would be willing to die if he knew he was lying.

40 posted on 08/27/2002 10:05:14 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: jlogajan
Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years

The truth is that more people were killed in the name of atheism in the last century than the sum total of all of the religion related deaths you can actually cite numbers for, which attests to the fact that religion has had an overall good impact on man's history.

Atheism's track record is looking pretty dismal, so far.

48 posted on 08/27/2002 10:46:14 AM PDT by watchin
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To: jlogajan
BTW, it's not the being killed that's the kicker - it's the walking away afterward.
57 posted on 08/27/2002 11:22:01 AM PDT by watchin
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To: jlogajan
Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction.

Historically, "religious" wars have had as their cause amalgams of cultural, economic, and political issues. Very few that I can think have been fought purely over religious doctrine. Generally, religion has only served to higlight other existing cultural differences while providing the combatants with the kind of psychological encouragement most beneficial in war.

97 posted on 08/27/2002 3:50:37 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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