[GSHastings]

Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction

You missed the point entirely.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you BELIEVE to be true, is a common virtue.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you KNOW to be untrue, is extremely rare.

[stuartcr]

Why would subjecting yourself to death for any reason, be considered virtuous? Is suicide virtuous?

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

You missed the point entirely.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you BELIEVE to be true, is a common virtue.

Subjecting yourself to death for what you KNOW to be untrue, is extremely rare.

No, you missed his point. Dieing for something "proves" nothing, except the strength of the belief of the person willing to die. Since uncounted numbers of people have been willing to die for many, many mutually incompatible religious (and other) beliefs, their deaths "prove" nothing, either, except the strength of their convictions. No one claimed that non-believers died for something they pretended to believe in; that's a straw man argument. The argument is that dieing for what you believe in doesn't prove anything, anymore than the ability of a spoilt child to hold his breath, in a fit of tantrum, "proves" that he should get a cookie.