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To: jlogajan
Posted by jlogajan to OrthodoxPresbyterian On News/Activism Aug 27 9:46 AM #25 of 38 ~~ Well, people have been killing other people over their religious differences for 10's of thousands of years. If being killed for your religion proved its reality, all current religions would be proved -- thus a contradiction.

Only the Apostles weren't interested in "dying for their religion".

They were simply willing to die rather than deny their own eyewitness knowledge of the resurrection of Jesus Christ -- hardly something for which a man would be willing to die if he knew he was lying.

40 posted on 08/27/2002 10:05:14 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
At best, that proves sincerity, not validity.
42 posted on 08/27/2002 10:06:43 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I have been a practicing Jedi since 1992.
51 posted on 08/27/2002 10:50:15 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
They were simply willing to die rather than deny their own eyewitness knowledge of the resurrection of Jesus Christ -- hardly something for which a man would be willing to die if he knew he was lying.

But why don't you accept the very real presise that the whole book is a lie? Maybe these apostles weren't really willing to die for Jesus. Maybe they didn't exist at all, since no evidence outside the Bible exists.

56 posted on 08/27/2002 11:21:30 AM PDT by andy_card
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
They were simply willing to die rather than deny their own eyewitness knowledge of the resurrection of Jesus Christ -- hardly something for which a man would be willing to die if he knew he was lying.

Just as other people were willing to die rather than deny their own eyewitness knowledge of other "facts" that are incompatible with the "facts" that the Apostles were willing to die for. Your "proof" proves nothing. People believe all kinds of wild things they claim to have witnessed, and many of them will die for these. It's just normal human psychology at work.

121 posted on 08/27/2002 4:32:57 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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