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Report: CD Sales Further Decline
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 8/26/02 | Simon Avery

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:07:13 PM PDT by GeneD

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To: jenny65
What I am talking about is the "star" system, which guarantees certain performers money that their work has not yet earned. It is part of the hype.
161 posted on 08/27/2002 2:43:15 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: AmishDude
Just a nitpicky point. Radio has played that role in the past, and probably still does now.

Most radio stations are so tightly formatted that they have become boring and almost useless as a place to discover new music. For example, one of the most listened to radio stations in DCD has a 35 song play list, with 2 songs that are less than 3 years old. The station bills itself as "today's music."

162 posted on 08/27/2002 2:51:52 PM PDT by the bottle let me down
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To: bvw
Thanks for your link in your post #154. It made for an interesting read. I had a previous run-in with TommyJ myself. He sure seems to be a bit uptight and quick to resort to insults and name calling if he disagrees with somebody's viewpoints on a particular subject. But for whatever reason, I actually feel sorry for TommyJ because he seems to have some unresolved issues.
163 posted on 08/27/2002 3:10:12 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Wolfstar
The pseudo-black stylism that includes screeching, trilling, 20-notes-per-syllable, falsetto and other vocal gymnastics crammed into virtually every song by even the few gifted singers around today is a huge turn-off to me. The purity of the music is buried under the weight of such vocal theatrics. Sometimes simple and understated really are better.

I couldn't have said it better. The funny thing is that what you call "pseudo-black stylism" has been most often heard on recordings by, gasp, black, and mainly female, vocalists. Go figure! Very annoying to us, very impressive to the musically illiterate. I seem to recall that Valerie Simpson of the late years Motown duo Ashford & Simpson had her part in inventing it.

(This is off the pissing match topic but I couldn't help commenting on your excellent observation. Cheers!)

164 posted on 08/27/2002 3:22:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: ThomasJefferson
Screw you. This slug made a sexual reference to my wife IN AN ANONYMOUS FORUM. Like a true coward.

Oh, I get it. He was an idiot, so you thought you would show him by behaving like a bigger idiot? That make a lot of sense.

but if he had the guts to say it to me in person, I would punch him in the mouth.

I really find it hard to believe that you would even think that anything derogatory (sp?) said on this or any other internet forum would be said in person, and therefore you would get even the least worked up about it. But saying you would punch someone in the mouth for comments made shows pure (probably temporary, but who knows for sure) stupidity on your part. You could find yourself with 1) pretty serious criminal and civil liability and 2) very serious hospital bills and finally 3)possibly a funeral. If you are truly serious about reacting in person like you suggest, I strongly advise against it.

Now you get involved, maybe you think it is appropriate to do what he did,

I never said that, and frankly, I couldn't care less what he did. There is an abuse report button and you obviously have the option to ignore it and go on. I didn't see his comment and didn't want to bother to go through the posts to find it. I responded to yours, and the fact that he was wrong doesn't make what you said any more defensible.

Why would you truly be bothered by what some idiot said on a forum?

I care about your opinion on that about as much as his.

Apparently you care greatly, since you responded. And if you are going to continue to defend your actions, let me know so I can make a reference not to respond. I only discuss issues with rational people. Temporarily loosing it and smarting off in a post is one thing and can certainly be forgotten. Spending 5 or 10 minutes responding to someone who called you on it trying to defend your actions is irrational. Have at it if you wish.

165 posted on 08/27/2002 3:27:24 PM PDT by 1L
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To: dogbyte12
Hillary Rosen and the RIAA need to get an award for having the biggest brass pair in the world.

Monster "Truth" Bump!!!

166 posted on 08/27/2002 3:40:02 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: usadave
Yesterday morning at 6:52AM local time I was almost run over while crossing a street on the way to a train station by a cell phone talking, taco munching and driving maroon, who like most here rolled through a stop sign. It was a close call really, and, thinking as I was at the time about these pissing matches here, I thought that maybe the maroon was in a hurry to get to his computer so he could climb that high horse, claim the moral high ground, and start calling names and verbally attacking strangers who speak in defense of downloading the recording of My Boy Lollipop off the Internet.

What's my point? Hmmm, I dunno. Just kidding. My point is that the climb to that moral high ground is awful easy, the liberals have mastered the art, they are for all the humanistic good things and against the bad, while the stuck up conservatives seem to be for all good Biblical things and against sin, but on a scale of lawbreaking and sinning, downloading Millie Small rates rather, uhm, small, compared to rolling through stop signs and to the most popular American sport these days - running red lights!

Still, this hasn't been a worthless exercise as it led me to a definition of the Revolting cat's rule, which I'm still refining, but here is the first crack at it anyway:

Humility and tolerance for opposing views are inversely proportional to the apparent gravity of the Internet forum participant's screen handle.

Cheers!

167 posted on 08/27/2002 3:57:48 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: ThomasJefferson
usadave: I see that TommyJ has resorted to his well known insulting and namecalling on FR by reciting his classic "Climb back into your hole". It shouldn't be too much longer before he utters his often repeated "Now go play in heavy traffic" barb.

ThomasJefferson: Ok, go play in the traffic. Unless of course, you can cite the post where I said something which I never said. You see, that's the problem with lying about someone's position, you have to back it up with proof. And when you can't, you are shown for what you are.

I take it you did this in the past also?

Please refer to the following thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/686402/posts

In post #89 on that thread you wrote "If you have an argument to present on the topic of the thread please make it or go play in heavy traffic".

In post #92 on that thread you wrote "Now go play in traffic".

No need to apologize, because coming from you, there's no way that I would believe it to be sincere.

168 posted on 08/27/2002 4:05:01 PM PDT by usadave
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To: GeneD
"We find a striking connection between people who say they are downloading more and buying less," said Geoff Garin, the pollster for Peter D. Hart Research Associates, who conducted the random telephone survey of 860 consumers for the RIAA in May. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

Gee, it couldn't be that folks have begun to wake up to the high prices for low value represented when you hype 1-2 winners with a number of so-so tunes. Or, even the fact that consumer economy doldrums are affecting the younger set?

169 posted on 08/27/2002 4:13:17 PM PDT by ExSES
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To: Revolting cat!
Thanks for your comments in your post #167. I feel much the same way that you do on the issues that you brought up.
170 posted on 08/27/2002 4:17:21 PM PDT by usadave
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To: usadave
BOOYAH! Hehehe. G, S, M.

Back to the topic - sales are down because CDs cost too much and the economy isn't so hot; because Britney Spears and Eminem are the face of today's popular music; not because of piracy.
171 posted on 08/27/2002 4:17:55 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Subtle
172 posted on 08/27/2002 4:32:58 PM PDT by Publius6961
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To: usadave
You missed it son. I never denied saying you should go play in heavy traffic. In fact I just did it again. And I will do again if you like, how's this; Go play in the traffic

What I was referring to was the fact the the guy on this thread who lied about what I said in this thread could not cite the post where I said what he said I said. Got that? Go over it a few times, you will finally get it.

He lied, the thread was short, but he still refused to cite the post that would prove him right. The reason was that the post did not exist. He therefore is vermin, and I told him to crawl back under his rock.

Now you come on to this thread harboring deep resentment and still stinging from being exposed on a different thread long ago, and attack me without knowing what the hell you are talking about. No problem for me. It is probably what got you in trouble last time.

Now,,,GO PLAY IN THE TRAFFIC! :-)

173 posted on 08/27/2002 6:18:28 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: 1L
Like I said, screw you. He made a sexual comment about my wife. I made one short comment that said if he told me in person, he would be looking for a dentist. A short harmless retort to a moron. True by the way.

Then you show up on your high horse as a moderator wannabe telling me how I am a coward because anyone who says something like that doesn't have the balls to do it in real life.

Now you give me unsolicited advice about why I shouldn't do it in the real world.

Do me a favor and go play in the traffic.

(I like that phrase)

174 posted on 08/27/2002 6:27:36 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
I don't suppose your new buddy sent you to the posts where he lied about what I said, or to the post where he made a sexual comment about my wife in desperation. Maybe if you get close to him he will start to make some sexual comments about your wife. Friends like that are apt to do that. Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas.

To: ThomasJefferson You waltzing in without a warrant and accusing people supposedly secure in their places and effects of stealing. That's a whine.

94 posted on 8/27/02 9:42 AM Central by bvw [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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Cite where I did that. Or withdraw and climb back into your hole. 95 posted on 8/27/02 9:48 AM Central by ThomasJefferson

To: ThomasJefferson

Did your wife say I lied with her? -- If so she is the lier.

110 posted on 8/27/02 10:11 AM Central by bvw

175 posted on 08/27/2002 6:38:15 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: RobbyS
Of course it is my call. The economic truth is that these people are overpaid, because they are paid upfront. Give them a share of what they sell.

It's your opinion, not your call. They get paid whatever they can get without force or fraud. It's called the free market. Until you become the king, you don't get to make the call, only express your opinion. Which, btw, is goofy.

176 posted on 08/27/2002 6:41:54 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: usadave
Post 175 was meant for you
177 posted on 08/27/2002 7:10:49 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Goofy or not, it is the approach that Disney took when Ron Howard demanded too much for the making of an "Alamo"movie. If you guarantee the talent too much money, the film is less likely to make money.
178 posted on 08/27/2002 8:00:53 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: ThomasJefferson
You missed it son. I never denied saying you should go play in heavy traffic. In fact I just did it again. And I will do again if you like, how's this; Go play in the traffic.

LOL! Your lame attempt to save even a shred of dignity on this thread is absolutely pathetic, TommyJ.

Here, I'll even write your next post for you because I know that you'll probably want to come up with more lame excuses to cover your backside. Let's see, knowing your MO on Free Republic, your next post would probably say something like this:

"Uh, I didn't say "Go play in heavy traffic". I actually said "Go play in traffic". No, actually I DID say "Go play in heavy traffic", but I meant to say "Go DRIVE in heavy traffic". Or did I? Well, even though you called my bluff and proved me wrong, you actually didn't know what I was talking about, or was it that I didn't know what you were talking about? Anyway, because I was confused about who I was supposed to be, you proving me wrong doesn't count because for a few minutes there, I thought I was somebody else! Oh yeah, even though I sent that one post to you, I actually meant it for somebody else. And that post that I sent to what's-his-name was actually meant for you. So you'll need to go back and track that post down and read it. Is that clear? OK, now, go back and read post #92 again and you'll understand what I meant when I said what I said in post #77, or was that post #84? No, it was actually post #129, I think. Oh, forget it! Just read all the posts again and it should be perfectly clear to you what I am talking about. You'll have to excuse my nonsensical ramblings on this thread because sometimes I have trouble keeping all of my spins, deceptions, insults, alibis, and excuses straight in my head!"

179 posted on 08/27/2002 8:24:20 PM PDT by usadave
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