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Report: CD Sales Further Decline
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 8/26/02 | Simon Avery

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:07:13 PM PDT by GeneD

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Compact disc music sales decreased 7 percent during the first half of the year, a further indication that online music sharing sites are hurting the recording industry, a trade group said Monday.

The decline cost the industry $284 million in lost sales, according to the Recording Industry Association of America.

The decline, measured by PricewaterhouseCoopers, compares with a 5.3 percent drop in CD shipments in the first half of 2001. The RIAA said the industry uses just-in-time delivery, so CD shipments are reliably indicative of actual sales.

Also Monday, the RIAA released a separate survey of Internet users' music habits, which found that most consumers between the ages of 12 and 54 bought fewer CDs as they downloaded more tracks.

Previous studies independent of the music industry have suggested that access to free music on the Web actually encourages consumers to experiment with new acts and buy more CDs.

"We find a striking connection between people who say they are downloading more and buying less," said Geoff Garin, the pollster for Peter D. Hart Research Associates, who conducted the random telephone survey of 860 consumers for the RIAA in May. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

Of consumers polled whose downloading increased during the last six months, 41 percent reported buying less music, compared with 19 percent who said they were purchasing more, he said.

Among those polled who said they were downloading the same amount as six months earlier, 25 percent said they purchased less music, compared with 13 percent who bought more, Garin said.

The survey also reported that 35 percent said they go straight to an Internet file sharing site whenever they hear an unfamiliar artist they like. Only 10 percent reported that they immediately buy the artist's album.

The poll did not provide information about consumer attitudes on other factors widely considered to be affecting CD sales, including the quality of new releases and the lack of easy-to-use online services from the major recording labels.

"I very strongly conclude that the ability to get music for free is an important factor and has an adverse effect on music purchasing. I would not argue that it is the one and only factor," Garin said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: compactdiscs; digitalcopying; riaa
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To: ThomasJefferson
In person, you would be looking for a dentist right now.

Knock this crap off. The only people that say things like this on an anonymous forum couldn't whip their way out of preschool.

141 posted on 08/27/2002 11:42:55 AM PDT by 1L
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To: rs79bm
$14.99? What the hell are you talking about?

I went to 3 stores on Sunday looking for a copy of The Crystal Method's "Name of the Game".

$18.50 was the lowest price I could find, and I only wanted that one song.

I just downloaded a pirated copy, instead of buying it.

142 posted on 08/27/2002 11:44:52 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: 1L
Best place to search for DVD prices online - DVD-Price Search
143 posted on 08/27/2002 11:48:41 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: LexBaird
Where I come from, we call it a rhetorical strawman. Do you work as a journalist, by chance?

You can call it whatever you like, it won't make it so.

Look, you stuck your nose into something that was none of your business. Now you won't let it die.

I didn't make a statement or a comment that normally would elicit comment on it from other posters. I asked someone to clarify his comment. It certainly wasn't clear to me based on the article which he was commenting about. If you think I should have known, goody for you. I could not care less what your opinion of my cognitive powers is. I also don't care what you think his meaning was, as I have already explained.

You seem bound and determined to pick a fight with me. What precisely is your point? And does it have anything whatsoever to do with this subject?

144 posted on 08/27/2002 11:50:27 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: LexBaird
Now here is a guy that doesn't need to clarify what he said.

$14.99? What the hell are you talking about?
I went to 3 stores on Sunday looking for a copy of The Crystal Method's "Name of the Game".
$18.50 was the lowest price I could find, and I only wanted that one song.
I just downloaded a pirated copy, instead of buying it.
142 posted on 8/27/02 1:44 PM Central by Psycho_Bunny

145 posted on 08/27/2002 11:54:03 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: 1L
I couldn't agree more.

I spent a tremendous amount of time trying to find a copy of Hall & Oates "Whole Oats" (Their first album together) and nobody offered it. Finally, last year someone put a copy for sale up on Ebay, where I snapped it up.

Record companies and like-minded idiots need to realize that low sales do not necessarily mean people are stealing music. There is Ebay - heck, Hastings sells used CDs now, etc. There is also the fact today's music "ain't got the same soul". And finally, their prices are too high. At least in the early '90s, you got a cool rectangle box to play with when you bough a CD.

146 posted on 08/27/2002 11:56:55 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: 1L
Knock this crap off. The only people that say things like this on an anonymous forum couldn't whip their way out of preschool.

Screw you. This slug made a sexual reference to my wife IN AN ANONYMOUS FORUM. Like a true coward.

I'm not a tough guy but if he had the guts to say it to me in person, I would punch him in the mouth.

Now you get involved, maybe you think it is appropriate to do what he did, but not my response. Maybe you are wrong. I care about your opinion on that about as much as his.

147 posted on 08/27/2002 12:00:50 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: GeneD
bttt
148 posted on 08/27/2002 12:06:38 PM PDT by the bottle let me down
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To: bvw
bvw: You waltzing in without a warrant and accusing people supposedly secure in their places and effects of stealing. That's a whine.

ThomasJefferson: Cite where I did that. Or withdraw and climb back into your hole.

I see that TommyJ has resorted to his well known insulting and namecalling on FR by reciting his classic "Climb back into your hole". It shouldn't be too much longer before he utters his often repeated "Now go play in heavy traffic" barb.

149 posted on 08/27/2002 12:23:49 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Illbay
The answer to this conundrum, at least right now, is RHAPSODY.

Yea, but can I download MP3's onto Sony Memory Sticks so I can play it on my Clie PDA while on an airplane?

150 posted on 08/27/2002 12:28:09 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: rs79bm
Try $19.99 in some places in NY. However, I see the CD makers are taking note of DVD marketing tactics. They're putting out multiple versions of a CD, releasing limited edition CDs with extra discs, or selling them to start as low as $6.99.
151 posted on 08/27/2002 12:30:42 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ThomasJefferson
Look, you stuck your nose into something that was none of your business. Now you won't let it die.

Consider it dead. You've certainly dug the hole deep enough to bury it.

152 posted on 08/27/2002 12:53:23 PM PDT by LexBaird
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To: AFreeBird
No, at least, not yet. At present, most of the Classical catalogue is available for CD Burning--from which I assume you could make MP3s if you wanted to.

The rest of the catalogue is not, but that's supposed to change within the next few months.

Bear in mind that Rhapsody is the only listen-on-demand service that currently has agreements with the five largest record labels. It is taking time and negotiations to get them to "yes" on CD Burning.

The fact is, you cannot at this time get very many of the myriad copyright holders to agree in principle that cheap, portable music is a "good thing." Until these folks see that they have SOMETHING to gain, they're going to continue to drag their heels.

However, continual and flagrant breaking of the law is not the answer, IMO. Support for viable alternatives such as Rhapsody IS.

153 posted on 08/27/2002 12:57:16 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: usadave
That dust up continued on DOJ to prosecute file swappers, reply 387, btw.
154 posted on 08/27/2002 1:08:08 PM PDT by bvw
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To: All
I love the "justifications" for stealing content urged by freeloaders ...

1. CDs are too expensive.

2. The music sucks.

3. The RIAA is a big, mean, greedy organization that doesn't care about my rights.

4. Artists don't get enough of a cut of profits.

5. Stealing content actually increases sales (what a whopper of a lie).

6. The RIAA needs to change its business model to suit my tastes.

7. It's "fair use" for me to trade songs with my friends and unknown parties on the Internet.

8. DVDs give me more content than CDs.

9. The RIAA should distribute all songs online.

10. Blah, blah, blah... [fill in your own bullshit here] ...

Look, you may lie to other people. But don't lie to yourselves. If you steal content, you're a thief, a freeloader, and a loser. You might as well be boosting hubcaps or ripping off old ladies handbags.
155 posted on 08/27/2002 1:22:02 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
I'll agree that the terms "freeloader and loser" are accurate for some folks who pursue this. However the ones I know are all CD buyers who (1) sample and (2) create party mixes using the swap services, and that such samples and party mixes are sales motivators.

And yes the RIAA doesn't care about your rights except as they may figure a way to charge you to use them. And it is fair use to trade songs -- internet or locally. To sell the songs -- no. To trade them, yes.

156 posted on 08/27/2002 1:29:29 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Bush2000
I think you are looking for this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/736986/posts

That's the one about file-swapping. This one is mostly about other reasons why the music industry is slumping economically. The post you replied to said a reason was Britney Spears. I agree with him....heh.

Nice list, though. You should post it on that thread....might stir a few pots.
157 posted on 08/27/2002 1:35:36 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: usadave
"Now go play in heavy traffic" barb.

Ok, go play in the traffic. Unless of course, you can cite the post where I said something which I never said. You see, that's the problem with lying about someone's position, you have to back it up with proof. And when you can't, you are shown for what you are.

I take it you did this in the past also?

158 posted on 08/27/2002 1:36:10 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Bush2000
RE: post 155

Well said.

159 posted on 08/27/2002 1:37:15 PM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Of course it is my call. The economic truth is that these people are overpaid, because they are paid upfront. Give them a share of what they sell.
160 posted on 08/27/2002 2:31:34 PM PDT by RobbyS
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