President Announces Healthy Forest Initiative

And when President Bush said (with emphasis!) "One Nation, Under God" the whole place just erupted with a standing ovation! (One of many throughout the day!

Ed

Y'know, speaking of enviros not knowing who they serve. In my town there's a dam, Savage rapids Dam, that the enviros sued to dismantle. It means that there will basically be no more cheap irrigation water for Josephine County.

Well, a local farmer told me that he's become aware that the people funding the enviros are really the big developers (Jo County is rapidly becoming a mini-Orange County, with numerous traffic jams and vast sections of once-pristine mountainside and farms becoming huge subdivisions, for which there is no infrastucture) who wish to bankrupt all the farmers and buy their land cheap, to develop it.

Makes sense to me...

Ed

Thanks for posting this incredible speech.

Please go to this important link. (Here we go folks. Our anonymous FR bennifactor has kicked in $870 to get our Medford / Central Point Bulletin Board up! Imagine it....some dirty little green watermelon driving north after a long hard day filled with protesting and what's that up ahead? Why it's a Advertising Bill Board that reads...)Go to the link and enjoy!

Thanks to our own EBuck and a Freeper donor we will be putting up an ad on a bulletin board in Oregon to take right to the Green Watermelons.

We should all donate to keep this billboard up at least until after the elections.

First the fires are proof of the dangers of the Watermelon Enviralists. Then President GW's speech yesterday alerted America to the terrible fires in Oregon as per the Watermelon Green Jihadists agendas.

Now we can follow up with a hard hitting ad on a bulletin board in Oregon.

Please go to this link read it and become a donor to take the message out to the good people in Oregon and of course the Watermelon Green Jehadists. (Here we go folks. Our anonymous FR bennifactor has kicked in $870 to get our Medford / Central Point Bulletin Board up! Imagine it....some dirty little green watermelon driving north after a long hard day filled with protesting and what's that up ahead? Why it's a Advertising Bill Board that reads...)Go to the link and enjoy!

That forest fire photo posted by Grampa Dave really gives the billboard the umph it needs. Let the sheeple see what a burned forest REALLY looks like, and then place the blame clearly at the feet of the enviro-wackos! Put the photo background on the billboard

Marked for reading after work.

Thanks AuntB, and so tell me.....normal ping list? My oldest sister thinks Im getting a bit too radical. I told her I haven't even started! What a great day for Oregon that "W" came and gave a great speech, with a message that he is also working in DC to try to get things done for the Northwest (oops, whole nation too)!

Here is a comment on Mark Vande Pol, from another site by Ben Anderson (azanderson.org). He publshes The Anderson Report by email almost daily. Nunya bidness's article was posted earlier this week. Mark (Carry_Okie) also had a visit with him on his recent book tour. This man gets it! We are lucky to have him in Arizona, having lost over 500,000 acres to fire storms..

Ben Anderson's Bio

Email him to subscribe to his email reports, which cover Immigration/Border, Environment, Education, and Election updates. Ben's a vet, also.
ben@azanderson.org

"Natural Process: That Environmental Laws May Serve the Laws of Nature" by Mark Edward Vande Pol is of immense importance. It is the most significant and ground-breaking concept in decades for the United States.
Currently, it is in its embryonic state - about the stage that Microsoft was in 1978-81. And, while Microsoft has had a huge impact, the "Natural Process" can have far greater impact for it addresses a basic need in American society -- property rights versus an ever expanding socialist big government. Property rights are at the core of the American Experiment in history.
The "Natural Process" sucks the very wind and energy out of government abuse, thereby freeing up an massive surge in the economy while better conserving the nation's natural resources.
We are fortunate to be in on the ground floor of the most important sea-change since the Nation's founding.
The question is -- Are we going to allow the current apathetic slavery continue???? or -- Are we smart enough to reach out and grasp the golden ring???

Thanks for calling the senator...let's keep their feet to the fire !! :o)

GWB Is The man !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

FMCDH !!

The golden ring is a big monster but thankfully it is possible to pick it up in tiny pieces to repair the damage done to our 1/4, 1/2, 1, 10 and 160 acre lots. If just a small percentage of Americans cared about their land's health and we could get the government off our backs we could repair the entire country in a decade. The current problem is the weight of the government on our backs.

I've been saving this for quite some time. Now seems to be a good time because it strengthens my words.

It was an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State of Michigan. Wait till you read this guy's response-but read the State's letter before you get to the response letter.

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Mr. Ryan DeVries
2088 Dagget St.
Pierson, MI 49339

SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County

Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond. A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.! A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.

The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2002.

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a ! follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff. Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action.

We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.

Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

Sincerely,
David L. Price
District Representative Land and Water Management Division

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This is the actual response sent back:

Dear Mr. Price,

Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Montcalm County.

Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to.

I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan. A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams acr! oss the outlet stream of my Spring Pond.

While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials "debris."

I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity. My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or (2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the Free! dom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws, annotated.

I have several concerns. My first concern is - aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation-so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing flooding is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect.

In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names. If yo! u want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers - but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter they being unable to read English.

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2002? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your atten! tion to a real environmental quality (health) problem in the area. It is the bears! Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!)

Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office .

Mr. Ryan DeVries
2088 Dagget St.
Pierson, MI 49339

My pleasure Gramps. I struggled to write something appropriate and I decided to just let the MAN tell it like he did. I sure couldn't top it.

Here's the article from the Curry Coastal Pilot:

CURRY COUNTY RESIDENTS MEET PRESIDENT
Published: August 24, 2002
By Charles Kocher
Pilot Publisher

CENTRAL POINT – Several Brookings residents were in just the right spot to shake the president's hand Thursday after George W. Bush addressed a crowd of 5,000 about forest management policy.

Rocky and Jeanette McVay sat in the second row of the onstage bleachers behind the president, just off the shoulder of cabinet members, congressmen and governors.

"I've still got goosebumps," Rocky said Friday. While the presidential hand-shaking just missed Rocky, Jeannette did get to shake his hand.

Rocky McVay is executive director of the O&C Counties Association, and has worked on forest management and revenue sharing policy.

When the presidential visit was announced, Congressman Greg Walden's office gave McVay 50 tickets to distribute, first to Oregon's county commissioners and then to others.

But he really didn't believe Walden's office when they told him that they would be sitting onstage, and he tried to decline the honor because he is "just staff."

The McVay's front-and-center seating, he said Friday, was by repeated direction of the White House stage manager who was arranging everything from dignitaries to potted plants before Bush entered the arena.

"I kept thinking we would be off the stage, and then after they brought us out, I thought they would move us," McVay said. "But he kept saying, ‘No, you're sitting right there.' "

Dan Brattain and his son Zach were among McVay's invitees, and they ended up about 10 rows back in the center of the auditorium, just next to another Brookings' resident, Jeff Johnson.

As Bush shook hands after the speech, the trio decided to press forward, hoping the president would come off stage.

A Secret Service agent, said Dan Brattain, told them where to stand for the best chance – and they got to press the presidential flesh.

Zach said the secret service agent had a hold of his belt and checking his pocket as he shook Bush's hand.

Also attending the event was more than a dozen Girls Scouts from the Brookings-Harbor area and Crescent City.

On Monday, the Girl Scouts of Winema Council, based in Medford, was provided with 225 tickets to see the president. The girls showed up in their uniforms to see and listen to Bush speak.

Candace Bartow, the council's executive director, said, "The girls were great! I was particularly pleased the President talked about the importance of service to the community since that reinforces so much of what we are about in Girl Scouts."

Others from Curry County in the audience included State Rep. Wayne Krieger, County Commissioner Marlyn Schafer, Port of Brookings Harbor Commissioner Norma Fitzgerald, and several members of "the McVay clan."

They were part of an audience that clearly knew natural resource issues were the order of the day.

Fresh from a tour of a wildfire site and a briefing on forest management, U.S. Sen. Gordon Smith introduced Bush, calling the visit "the difference between stewardship and watching it all go up in smoke ... and to say thank you to the men and women who are fighting to keep us free from catastrophe."

"Our job is to do everything we can to prevent forest fires from happening in the first place," Bush said after thanking firefighters. "It's an American ideal to preserve our forest. It's one of the changes we've got to make."

The cost of fighting the fires and lost resources, Bush said, "have been a drag on the economy." He told the crowd common sense thinning and brush clearing will make a difference, along with changes in environmental regulations and adoption by Congress of the 1994 Northwest Forest Plan.

And when he complained that good forest management is hindered by "endless litigation," the crowd offered one of its loudest standing ovations.

"As Americans we want to have a right to the courthouse, but there's a fine balance," Bush said.

He tied the forest management to the economy. "We've got to have healthy forest policy; it will yield a better economy. This is just common sense."

The fires of the summer prove the need for some of the forest changes, he added. "It's a sad way for people to learn, but we're making progress."

Bush used the rest of his hour to touch on a variety of topics:

• "For the sake of economic growth," Bush said, "we need to make the tax relief permanent."

•He railed against "frivolous and junk lawsuits" driving up medical costs, and the demands of trial lawyers hindering anti-terrorism insurance.

•Bush asked for broader trade authority. "I'll use that to open up more market for Oregon ranch and farm products."

•He promised to lock up corporate executives who "cook the books" but defended the "vast majority" of corporate managers as "decent, hardworking people."

The crowd responded to all the presidential applause lines, but saved its most enthusiasm and standing ovations for the president's tough stand against terrorism, a call for increased military salaries and spending, a mention of restoring farmers' water rights in the Klamath Basin, and a reference to keeping "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance."

The attacks against America, the President said, "have awakened a great compassionate spirit of service in America. It's that send of service, working to make America the very best it can be, that makes our country great."

Bush flew from Medford to Portland, where he met with 14 state representatives to discuss regional issues.

Russ Crabtree, executive director of the Port of Brookings Harbor, was one of those chosen.

Crabtree said the group discussed education, health care, assisted living, and coastal shallow and deep draft port issues. He said the exchange of information was enlightening.

"He was thoroughly briefed on the issues and understood them very well," said Crabtree, who was chosen to represent the South Coast at the meeting by Sen. Gordon Smith.

"I found the president to have a lot of charisma. He was very personable and very approachable."

The meeting lasted approximately two hours, during which Bush informed the group of his administration's position on domestic and international issues.

He also sought input from the group on regional issues, Crabtree said.