Environmentalists Push to Burn the West.....In Order To Save The Environment

Media and Policy Review ^ | 8/23/02 | Kevin Kelley

[Kevin Kelley]

Ok, so Bush proposes easing logging restrictions in "fire prone areas" and the next day 500 apoplectic protesters show up in Portland to denounce the plan. Of course, Portland doesn't seem to me to be fire prone in the sense that Colorado is. Maybe some of these protesters should come here to see what really dry conditions and lots of dead trees looks like. As reported by Fox News.....

Many of the protesters criticized a new forest initiative announced earlier in the day by Bush that would make it easier for timber companies to cut wood from fire-prone national forests.

"My concern is that he has absolutely no morals about protecting our environment," said Joanne Marron, a teacher with a master's degree in ecology.

"The new policy is classic doublespeak," said Kenneth Kreuschu, 24, also from Cascadia Forest Alliance. "It has been shown time and again that more cutting leads to more fire. The new policy is a hoax."

To those who talk about separation of church and state, I say "we already have a state religion--it's called environmentalism!" These people took what?, twelve hours to decide that any human intervention in the forests was bad. We hear all the propaganda about "roadless areas". It's the logical extension of a philosophy that believes that all human activity is bad and that humans are not a part of a "natural" ecosystem. When you treat environmentalism as a religion, your piety is gauged by how extreme you are; it shows that you're more committed to the cause than others.

Kevin Kelley

[Kevin Kelley]

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[Eric in the Ozarks]

Masters Degree in ecology ?

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

"The new policy is classic doublespeak," said Kenneth Kreuschu, 24, also from Cascadia Forest Alliance. "It has been shown time and again that more cutting leads to more fire. The new policy is a hoax."

Oh, really? I'd looooooooove to see some evidence.

[lizma]

"We hear all the propaganda about "roadless areas".

Treesitter Falls To Her Death In Mt. Hood National Forest

PORTLAND, Oregon, April 13, 2002 (ENS) - A treesitter with the Cascadia Forest Alliance has died in a fall from a tree she was attempting to protect from logging.

Last night, Beth O'Brien, 22, was using a rope to climb to a platform in an old growth tree in the Mt. Hood National Forest when she fell to the ground from 150 feet.

Tim Ream, a volunteer with the Cascadia Forest Alliance, told ENS that O'Brien was still alive when she hit the ground and a cell call was immediately made for help.

Officials took more than two hours to arrive at the scene, Ream explained, because they could not reach the remote location by four wheel drive truck and had to go back and get more help. Volunteers on snowmobiles finally made it to the scene, but they arrived too late to save O'Brien's life.

Live by the tree, die by the tree.

[banjo joe]

Joanne Marron, a teacher with a master's degree in ecology.

A typo. Should read Joanne Moron

[taxcontrol]

To quote my father: "Stupidity is often it's own reward"

[Realist]

Dumber than a stump - a burn't one!

[Eric in the Ozarks]

'twould be interesting to know what university awarded this "degree."

[itzmygun]

I've been reading and hearing the tree hugger comments, and it's amazing that they're barely covering up what they are really trying to say: We'd rather the trees burn than allow the logging companies to make a buck or two. This is disgusting, and I think it's time to get angry with these wackos. In the last couple of years, their fanaticism has brought us some very evil things. We've got the fires; I don't think anyone is denying this is their fault. We have the wetlands, or more correctly, swamps that have increased the mosquito population by who knows how much and made the West Nile virus that much more easy to spread. And don't forget the electricity fiasco in California - all because the greenies fought against building new power stations.

This is just the beginning. Who knows what other catastrophes await us because of the policies they have shoved through. Wait until you fear letting your child go out and play in the yard because the woods are filled with cougars and wolves (some places are close to this already).

In the end, it's just as it has always been: Man vs. Nature. I think it's a Utopian dream to believe both can exist in harmony.

Just like the terrorist attacks, we have to realize we are in a war here. Some may think it's just a war of ideas, but with the things that have been happening, we're way past that. These things are no better than what the hijackers did on 9/11, and they should be treated the same.

Take that to your local environmentalist.

[lavaroise]

"The new policy is classic doublespeak," said Kenneth Kreuschu, 24, also from Cascadia Forest Alliance. "It has been shown time and again that more cutting leads to more fire. The new policy is a hoax."

Oh, really? I'd looooooooove to see some evidence.

WHAAAA! SICK UNASHAMED TERRORIST JIHAD ALERT! they have reinvented fire fighting. To fight a fire remember the triangle of fire: Combustible, Temperature and Reactant (O2). Remove any of those 3s and a fire cannot happen.

[SoDak]

I've said many times that environmentalism is a religion, and should be treated accordingly. These people are fanatics.

[reformedliberal]

Yep. Offered in Madison, WI, at least. STRONG components of *land use planning*; lighter on the science. Made to order for the *ethnic studies* crowd that wants a job w/a governmental agency or a position w/an NGO. Made to order for those under 30 who want a career in telling everyone else how to live.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

At Madison. Why did I already know this ?

[AuntB]

Welcome to the battle, Kevin Kelly. I was fortunate to receive an invitation and ticket to Mr. Bush's speech. The eco freaks were something else....useful idiots. The President's plan is to use the 1994 forest plan, but STILL the extreme eco's whine and whine....they want NO cutting, and yes, they would rather see it burn. Unlike them, So. Oregon is my home. I and the people who have lived here for decades know what works. We love the land, they use it for power.

And I would like to dispell the other "whine" that the left is using.....that only high paying republicans were invited to his speech in Medford...None of the 5000 invited paid a dime and there were hundreds of us there that are NOT republicans. Perhaps the invitations were based on who could behave like an adult.

KK, be sure to check out all our Land Grab threads on Free Republic. We have some pretty amazing people around here.

[DuncanWaring]

I've said many times that environmentalism is a religion...

You, and Vin Suprynowicz.

Our Second National Holiday

[goldstategop]

The enviro wackos concern about Mother Nature is purely faux. They'd rather let forests burn than allow a Republican President to prove there is a REAL alternative to protecting the environment without the need for Washington bureaucrats to micromanage it. The extent of their concern for trees and critters is more political than it is principled. So you can see the reason they showed up to protest the application of the Daschund exception to our entire national forest policies has to do entirely with the fact they know the public would approve in a heartbeat President Bush's common sense approach to protecting the trees - and they can't abide that coming as an initiative from THIS Administration.

[Tailgunner Joe]

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