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Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers
FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay


Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

August 22, 2002
By Roger F. Gay

America's Most Wanted put it like this:

Catalino Morales is wanted for the attempted homicide of five deputy sheriff’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania and for failure to pay back child support.

On Saturday, morning, December 9, 2000, eight deputies in Lehigh county Pennsylvania broke into Catalino Morales' home to serve an arrest warrant charging him with failure to make child support payments. According to the deputies, Morales barricaded himself in a second-floor bedroom and fired two shots through a closed door. He then shot out a back window, jumped onto a flat roof, and onto the ground where it is alleged that he shot at a deputy. The deputy returned fire but no one was injured. Morales escaped the immediate area.

Police say Morales then entered a house in the neighborhood and held a family of four hostage for several hours. The standoff ended when one of the residents managed to wrestle the gun out of Morales’ hands and Morales fled the scene. A massive hunt ensued, including search dogs, helicopters, and Allentown police; to no avail.

On the night of June 20, 2001 a SWAT team in Hartford, Connecticut surrounded Morales in a housing complex and shots were fired. No policepersons were injured in the encounters. Morales was hit by three of 25 police bullets, permanently damaging his hand and his leg and endangering the lives of the nearby residents.

He is a father. He is a man. He is allegedly behind in making "child support" payments.

It is unlikely that the child support system will be put on trial in defense of Catalino Morales, but it should be. Under heavy influence from a profit-driven collection industry the process of determining the amount of child support ordered and enforcement practices have changed dramatically within the past fifteen years. Political corruption is rampant and obvious not only to those who have studied the system closely but to many fathers who have been forced into subjugation by it.

Millions of men are treated arbitrarily and unfairly to a degree that compromises or destroys their chance to maintain themselves, let alone get on with a normal life. Many cannot do what the system requires them to do. Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare mothers, who revel in the opportunity to emasculate men. There is no escape, no reason. Every politician says so. Men and women with more power than moral character constantly remind them that this is what fatherhood is all about.

Then other strangers arrive with guns and invade their homes with the intent of taking them prisoner. They are experiencing the horror of a dictatorial police state.

Catalino Morales is one of many canaries in the child support coal mines. Year after year we watch the canaries die yet the workers are not allowed to leave. Those among us who have the opportunity to communicate are morally obligated to pass the word. This system must be abandoned as quickly as possible whether the masters wish it or not.

In the early 1990s, millions of fathers first experienced the suspension of constitutional law in domestic relations courts and the transition to enforcement of arbitrary en masse central political decisions. The new system seems designed to ruin men's lives. Decisions are arbitrarily based on statistical projections that have no basis in reality. State governments are encouraged to take as much from fathers as possible in order to increase the amount of federal funds they receive. "Public-private partnerships" formed with private collection agencies that benefit from higher child support awards and greater debt. Industry representatives control much of the policy making process, including the design of most formulae used in setting child support amounts.

With so many people involved, there has been a predictable variation in reaction to the change. The early 1990s saw the rise of the fathers rights movement, class-action lawsuits, a surge in the number of appeals filed against child support orders, and new national conferences on fathers issues. State and federal politicians were lobbied constantly to fix or abandon the new laws. Members of the Washington State Legislature received thousands of pairs of baby shoes from fathers trying to make a point.

There were also reports of increases in suicide and violence. The early 1990s saw news reports of the first of the early morning raids on communities to round-up hundreds of dads to cart them off to jail. It saw shootings in courtrooms, lawyers and judges taken bloody to ambulances, and fathers barricaded in their homes surrounded by police.

In Dallas, a lawyer representing himself in a divorce case pulled a semi-automatic weapon from his briefcase and opened fire. While one father was barricaded in his home threatening suicide if police came too close, he was telephoned by a reporter who wanted to turn the conversation over to a police negotiator. Feminist groups protested, saying the government must not negotiate with terrorists. News coverage on such incidents ended. Billions of dollars were spent increasing security in courthouses.

Despite the best efforts of ordinary citizens, the system got worse. Fathers rights advocates were largely cut off from making their appeals through traditional media that continued an enormous propaganda effort against the so-called "deadbeat dads." By the mid-1990s politicians were confident that the public couldn't get enough. Child support was on the political agenda in every election year. Politicians in both parties continually promised to make life tougher for fathers and passed law after law to do so.

By the late 1990s life had become so desperate for a few divorced men (in more than one country) suffering psychologically from the loss of their children and constant harassment that they took guns into day-care centers and held children hostage. Do you now understand how it feels, they asked before being gunned down by police snipers.

Due to the enormous weight of one-sided reporting on the child support issue, many people are still quite unfamiliar with the problem. It is easy to find people who believe that errors can be corrected and orders adjusted to circumstances by a quick visit with a family court judge or through some simple administrative process. They have been brainwashed into believing that men generally avoid what are presumed to be fair and reasonable obligations to their children. It is difficult for them to understand that millions of ordinary citizens are fighting for their survival in the midst of a constitutional crisis.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the states define a system of checks and balances. Unreasonable orders are to be corrected on appeal. Unconstitutional laws are to be overturned by the judiciary. These are necessary safeguards against harmful, intrusive, and corrupt government behavior. But during the past twelve years the system has not functioned as designed. Everyone in government connected with child support, including judges, receive financial rewards for maintaining the centrally planned system and courts and prosecutors have cooperated to an amazing degree. This has created a situation in which no legal remedy for arbitrary and oppressive orders and overly zealous enforcement measures exists.

Some orders are so high as to be life threatening. They do not leave the person who is ordered to pay with sufficient income to support himself. Lives have been lost. But to create the order is not enough. Once bound, the system constantly threatens and harasses fathers who are unable to meet their arbitrarily assigned "obligations." Just give the situation more than two seconds thought. If you do not think that the system caused Catalino Morales to fire a gun and run for his life you do not pass elementary applied probability. You do not understand humans.

Unless the corruption in the system is dealt with and those abusing power and influence arrested and jailed, there will be more gunfights and more men brought down in the war against fathers. Some will no longer have the compassion for life that Catalino Morales displayed. Their instinct to fight when threatened will win out over flight. They will aim at police before firing and not relinquish their weapons to hostages. We will all be guilty if we do not hold those responsible for the child support system as we know it today guilty of conspiracy.

Copyright © 2002 Roger F. Gay


Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst and director of Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. He has also been an intensive political observer for many years culminating in a well-developed sense of honest cynicism. Other articles by Roger F. Gay can be found at Fathering Magazine and Men's News Daily.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; constitution; fathers; policestate
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To: Pee_Oui
I have, and I have a son in this position, and I live in fear that some day he will give up and say "it's not worth it".
And when he says "it's not worth it" will he go to a daycare center and take children hostage so they know what it feels like to be in his shoes? That's what the writer wants us to sympathize with. So I guess I've lived a sheltered life, if that's what it means to reject this.
701 posted on 08/25/2002 9:23:58 PM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Robert_Paulson2
=>Call it a character defect of mine, if you like.

While you, of course, claim the moral high ground because you would demand that a 10 year old girl raped and made pregnant by her father, should carry the baby to term.
702 posted on 08/26/2002 4:21:21 AM PDT by Home By Dark
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Yeah, but I keep taking the bait with no more clue than I had before.
703 posted on 08/26/2002 8:14:13 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: balrog666
Leave it to a MAN to leave when the stress is to much for HIM. And when the stress is to much to handle watch the MAN give up HIS children just so HE doesn't have to deal with them. What about that one????
704 posted on 08/26/2002 3:43:37 PM PDT by doubletrouble1994
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To: doubletrouble1994
Leave it to a MAN to leave when the stress is to much for HIM. And when the stress is to much to handle watch the MAN give up HIS children just so HE doesn't have to deal with them. What about that one????

What the hell are you smokin'? And can I get some before you go into brain spasm?

705 posted on 08/26/2002 5:16:18 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: doubletrouble1994
Leave it to a MAN to leave when the stress is to much for HIM. And when the stress is to much to handle watch the MAN give up HIS children just so HE doesn't have to deal with them. What about that one????

,,, and just how much of that is going on?

706 posted on 08/26/2002 5:23:37 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: RogerFGay
You have no reasonable argument against what I've said. Taking a girlish psychological approach isn't going to help your case.

And what kind of argument is this which you just made? Where is your "rasonable" argument here? For that matter, where is there a "reasonable" argument any where in this diatribe?

707 posted on 08/26/2002 5:35:12 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: wattsmag2; Motherbear; Don Joe
And what kind of argument is this which you just made? Where is your "reasonable" argument here? For that matter, where is there a "reasonable" argument any where in this diatribe?

Everything I've posted to this thread!

708 posted on 08/26/2002 5:44:17 PM PDT by Right To Life
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To: Right To Life
Not everything, you make a lot of good points, but you waste them when you go off tangent with the namecalling.
709 posted on 08/26/2002 5:53:31 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: wattsmag2
OK...I'm human. The majority of my posts to this thread were prescriptive, constructive, and high-content. Given the bolded caveat, would you concur?

And do you care to address any of the points made?

710 posted on 08/26/2002 6:01:06 PM PDT by Right To Life
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To: Right To Life
OK...I'm human. The majority of my posts to this thread were prescriptive, constructive, and high-content. Given the bolded caveat, would you concur?
Gotta agree on this one. Of the posters advocating father's rights, RTL is one of the most debateable. That is why I don't even try talking seriously with a couple of others...they were judgemental from the start. RTL asked questions and was reasonable. We've had a couple of good back and forths about the system without name calling.
711 posted on 08/26/2002 6:04:07 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: JimKalb; Free the USA; EdReform; realwoman; Harrison Bergeron; Orangedog; Lorianne; Outlaw76; ...
Still struggling with Stalin
713 posted on 08/27/2002 5:55:26 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: GoLightly
Words, words, words. You must admit, that you only posted words.
714 posted on 08/27/2002 5:59:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
When you introduce orders for that person to do things and punish the person for not doing what he's told, it has nothing whatsoever to do with "personal responsibility."

Try again.

Don't bother me endlessly with nonsense. That's what I said and it hasn't changed. I don't need to try again.
715 posted on 08/27/2002 6:02:09 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: amused
I do feel lucky in regards to my own father. He chose to stay very close to us, making sacrifices he did not have to in order to be a driving force in our lives not just a part of it.

For the most part, parents are like that, and fathers don't stop feeling like that after a divorce. Your situation with your father is in fact more the norm, so long as fathers can "get away with it." In the many stories I have heard, the ones that turn out reasonably good also involve a mother who cares enough not to get in the way of a fathers involvement and may even support it.

I see your point but I come from the perspective of being the child in such a situation.

I'm glad you see my point.

I've heard some bad stories about absentee fathers.

Many of the general news media stories are wrong. People have been lying a lot about fathers for more than a decade. It's for the money. Money states get from the federal government and the money collection agencies get from forcing fathers into debt and then "collecting."

The resentment at the father who moved away and started a new life, ...

Yes, I can understand that. But most divorces are filed by mothers. Mothers most often get custody.

the anger at the father who wasn't around for years at a time, the awkwardness of the birthday card as the only means of communication with ones father, etc.

It's understandable. Divorce isn't the greatest thing on earth. The feminists are wrong about that.

I know there are plenty of good fathers who are getting shafted but still I can't quite jump on the bandwagon knwoing the pain caused by the bad ones.

There are tens of millions of divorced and never married fathers. They come from all walks of life, all kinds of people, from upstanding citizens to the mentally deranged. You must understand that it's not appropriate to judge everyone by the fact that they're not all perfect. Of course in a population the size of "fathers," there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. That goes for mothers and children too. Let's not forget the politicans, who have more than their share of the bad and the ugly.

I would like to say it is just a few bad apples but it appears more prevalent than that. Not according to my calculations. The really bad apples are very much in the minority.
716 posted on 08/27/2002 6:14:25 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Jerry_M
From your post, I don't get the feeling that you read the article.
717 posted on 08/27/2002 6:15:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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I question the title of this thread on a number of levels. The phrase "man down" derives from military and law enforcement usage, and infers that the individual in question who is down is a victim or a non-combatant. To use the phrase in referring to Morales, the subject of the article, distorts and cheapens the meaning of the term.

Unlike Morales, real "men" honor their obligations to their own children and obey the law. It is apparent that describing Morales in any way as a "man" stretches the definition of the term to something grotesque and unrecognizable.

Where I come from, we describe those who go around shooting at police officers and not paying their just debts with terms that do not include the word "man".

One suggestion for a thread title change: "Scumbag Sperm Donor Gets What Was Coming To Him In The War Against Irresponsibility."

718 posted on 08/27/2002 6:16:37 AM PDT by strela
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To: Right To Life
The presumption that custody must be a winner/ loser, parent/visitor situation is the root of all the family court problems, and by extension the cause of many of America's problems of social degeneration over the last 3-4 decades.

On the contrary, it was such a presumption that held families together until courts felt a need to "modify" natural law. It was long held that a father's natural right to guardianship was only overcome by proof that the child's welfare would by jepardized by leaving him in the father's care after a divorce. The burden of proof was on the accuser. That doesn't mean the mother wouldn't have a case for visitation, or that a father wouldn't be expected to allow the child to maintain that relationship, but what it does mean is there is a presumption he will make those decisions in the best interest of the child. Compare the curve on divorce rates since an activist court began unlawfully interfering with this natural relationship, if you have "eyes to see."

Before you start imagining all the drunken, woman beating thugs taking custody from deserving mothers, I would point out that it would be the one who chose to desert the family without cause, or the drunken, woman beating thug that would loose custody. Those are both pretty clear indications of fitness.

719 posted on 08/27/2002 7:23:53 AM PDT by right2parent
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To: JimKalb; Free the USA; EdReform; realwoman; Harrison Bergeron; Orangedog; Lorianne; Outlaw76; ...
Blind vengence is ours, sayeth the court
720 posted on 08/27/2002 7:43:54 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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