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Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers
FatherMag.com ^ | August 22, 2002 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 08/22/2002 6:45:01 AM PDT by RogerFGay


Another Man Down in the War Against Fathers

August 22, 2002
By Roger F. Gay

America's Most Wanted put it like this:

Catalino Morales is wanted for the attempted homicide of five deputy sheriff’s in Allentown, Pennsylvania and for failure to pay back child support.

On Saturday, morning, December 9, 2000, eight deputies in Lehigh county Pennsylvania broke into Catalino Morales' home to serve an arrest warrant charging him with failure to make child support payments. According to the deputies, Morales barricaded himself in a second-floor bedroom and fired two shots through a closed door. He then shot out a back window, jumped onto a flat roof, and onto the ground where it is alleged that he shot at a deputy. The deputy returned fire but no one was injured. Morales escaped the immediate area.

Police say Morales then entered a house in the neighborhood and held a family of four hostage for several hours. The standoff ended when one of the residents managed to wrestle the gun out of Morales’ hands and Morales fled the scene. A massive hunt ensued, including search dogs, helicopters, and Allentown police; to no avail.

On the night of June 20, 2001 a SWAT team in Hartford, Connecticut surrounded Morales in a housing complex and shots were fired. No policepersons were injured in the encounters. Morales was hit by three of 25 police bullets, permanently damaging his hand and his leg and endangering the lives of the nearby residents.

He is a father. He is a man. He is allegedly behind in making "child support" payments.

It is unlikely that the child support system will be put on trial in defense of Catalino Morales, but it should be. Under heavy influence from a profit-driven collection industry the process of determining the amount of child support ordered and enforcement practices have changed dramatically within the past fifteen years. Political corruption is rampant and obvious not only to those who have studied the system closely but to many fathers who have been forced into subjugation by it.

Millions of men are treated arbitrarily and unfairly to a degree that compromises or destroys their chance to maintain themselves, let alone get on with a normal life. Many cannot do what the system requires them to do. Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare mothers, who revel in the opportunity to emasculate men. There is no escape, no reason. Every politician says so. Men and women with more power than moral character constantly remind them that this is what fatherhood is all about.

Then other strangers arrive with guns and invade their homes with the intent of taking them prisoner. They are experiencing the horror of a dictatorial police state.

Catalino Morales is one of many canaries in the child support coal mines. Year after year we watch the canaries die yet the workers are not allowed to leave. Those among us who have the opportunity to communicate are morally obligated to pass the word. This system must be abandoned as quickly as possible whether the masters wish it or not.

In the early 1990s, millions of fathers first experienced the suspension of constitutional law in domestic relations courts and the transition to enforcement of arbitrary en masse central political decisions. The new system seems designed to ruin men's lives. Decisions are arbitrarily based on statistical projections that have no basis in reality. State governments are encouraged to take as much from fathers as possible in order to increase the amount of federal funds they receive. "Public-private partnerships" formed with private collection agencies that benefit from higher child support awards and greater debt. Industry representatives control much of the policy making process, including the design of most formulae used in setting child support amounts.

With so many people involved, there has been a predictable variation in reaction to the change. The early 1990s saw the rise of the fathers rights movement, class-action lawsuits, a surge in the number of appeals filed against child support orders, and new national conferences on fathers issues. State and federal politicians were lobbied constantly to fix or abandon the new laws. Members of the Washington State Legislature received thousands of pairs of baby shoes from fathers trying to make a point.

There were also reports of increases in suicide and violence. The early 1990s saw news reports of the first of the early morning raids on communities to round-up hundreds of dads to cart them off to jail. It saw shootings in courtrooms, lawyers and judges taken bloody to ambulances, and fathers barricaded in their homes surrounded by police.

In Dallas, a lawyer representing himself in a divorce case pulled a semi-automatic weapon from his briefcase and opened fire. While one father was barricaded in his home threatening suicide if police came too close, he was telephoned by a reporter who wanted to turn the conversation over to a police negotiator. Feminist groups protested, saying the government must not negotiate with terrorists. News coverage on such incidents ended. Billions of dollars were spent increasing security in courthouses.

Despite the best efforts of ordinary citizens, the system got worse. Fathers rights advocates were largely cut off from making their appeals through traditional media that continued an enormous propaganda effort against the so-called "deadbeat dads." By the mid-1990s politicians were confident that the public couldn't get enough. Child support was on the political agenda in every election year. Politicians in both parties continually promised to make life tougher for fathers and passed law after law to do so.

By the late 1990s life had become so desperate for a few divorced men (in more than one country) suffering psychologically from the loss of their children and constant harassment that they took guns into day-care centers and held children hostage. Do you now understand how it feels, they asked before being gunned down by police snipers.

Due to the enormous weight of one-sided reporting on the child support issue, many people are still quite unfamiliar with the problem. It is easy to find people who believe that errors can be corrected and orders adjusted to circumstances by a quick visit with a family court judge or through some simple administrative process. They have been brainwashed into believing that men generally avoid what are presumed to be fair and reasonable obligations to their children. It is difficult for them to understand that millions of ordinary citizens are fighting for their survival in the midst of a constitutional crisis.

The Constitution of the United States and the constitutions of the states define a system of checks and balances. Unreasonable orders are to be corrected on appeal. Unconstitutional laws are to be overturned by the judiciary. These are necessary safeguards against harmful, intrusive, and corrupt government behavior. But during the past twelve years the system has not functioned as designed. Everyone in government connected with child support, including judges, receive financial rewards for maintaining the centrally planned system and courts and prosecutors have cooperated to an amazing degree. This has created a situation in which no legal remedy for arbitrary and oppressive orders and overly zealous enforcement measures exists.

Some orders are so high as to be life threatening. They do not leave the person who is ordered to pay with sufficient income to support himself. Lives have been lost. But to create the order is not enough. Once bound, the system constantly threatens and harasses fathers who are unable to meet their arbitrarily assigned "obligations." Just give the situation more than two seconds thought. If you do not think that the system caused Catalino Morales to fire a gun and run for his life you do not pass elementary applied probability. You do not understand humans.

Unless the corruption in the system is dealt with and those abusing power and influence arrested and jailed, there will be more gunfights and more men brought down in the war against fathers. Some will no longer have the compassion for life that Catalino Morales displayed. Their instinct to fight when threatened will win out over flight. They will aim at police before firing and not relinquish their weapons to hostages. We will all be guilty if we do not hold those responsible for the child support system as we know it today guilty of conspiracy.

Copyright © 2002 Roger F. Gay


Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst and director of Project for the Improvement of Child Support Litigation Technology. He has also been an intensive political observer for many years culminating in a well-developed sense of honest cynicism. Other articles by Roger F. Gay can be found at Fathering Magazine and Men's News Daily.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childsupport; constitution; fathers; policestate
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To: Motherbear
"Sorry, but you can't lay the right wing feminist garbage on me."

Get back with me after you've learned how to read what I've written and comprehend it. Or, failing that, when you've learned to tell left from right.

Until then, if the shoe fits...

201 posted on 08/22/2002 5:40:44 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: balrog666
Err no, I had no lawyer. Care to understand why I was out of work? Or would that be too much to absorb in one night? How do you get a lawyer while unemployed? I missed the "How To" book on that one.
202 posted on 08/22/2002 5:43:41 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo; RogerFGay; DNA Rules
"Yes, I can honestly say. After 16 years, victory goes to those who operate within the system."

Yup, just like Clinton's pal Judd Hirsch commented about how right after Clinton's first victory, he was frightened by the sight of military fighter jets flying by, until he remembered that, "now they're our jets."

You feminists have won a battle. Several, in fact. But your revolution isn't quite complete.

So keep on reveling in the "victory" you enjoy from "operating within the system" you created.

Just don't come crying to men for any sympathy when your little soviet union collapses, as collapse it must.

203 posted on 08/22/2002 5:45:17 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Oh, right. You mean like the "Gee, my ex's CS was just increased to $470/mo. and he's not living in his car....but he will be. LOLOL" type of stress?
Who says it was stressful? I was actually thrilled about the increase. :P
204 posted on 08/22/2002 5:45:19 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: Motherbear
Where is the sympathy for other murderers on this board?

I take it you have not been on the Massillon threads, where a bunch of wackos not too dissimilar to this crew have been justifying the murder of a police officer by a so-called 'Constitutionalist', who was a fringe freeper, because he didn't think that traffic laws were constitutional, and was stopped for a traffic ticket. Like many of the folks here, they feel that individual citizens have the right to decide what laws are constitutional and which laws are not, and to enforce their decision by the use of deadly force.

205 posted on 08/22/2002 5:45:50 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
I missed the "How To" book on that one.

Obviously. Good for you.

206 posted on 08/22/2002 5:46:40 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
I will probably always be the money grubbing bitch. And I get a real good laugh out of it.

,,, taken in any context, there's a bit of truth in everything, isn't there? Walking the road Mr Gay has put us on in this thread isn't an easy one and I found proximity very much determines compassion. Look up entries under "women" in your phonebook. Probably several along the lines of networking and support. Look at listings under "men". I rest my case. You've not really taken the issue much further than money here and there simply is no need to. That's what it's all about.

207 posted on 08/22/2002 5:46:49 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
By the way, Mz. "almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo signed up 2002-08-22," did you formerly troll these environs under a different handle, or are you New Meat sent over from DU?
208 posted on 08/22/2002 5:46:53 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Is that how you enlighten yourself Don? By calling someone a feminist in every other post, you might get yourself believing it. But you've never stopped to read long enough, nor ask any questions, to actually know my beliefs. Guesses are unbecoming and don't make any headway. But keep guessing. I'll tell you if you're getting hot or cold. Right now you're ice.
209 posted on 08/22/2002 5:47:24 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: shaggy eel
Add to that years of harassment and threats from a long list of strangers, including half-witted pimple-faced high school drop-outs trying to collect to make a commission and female bureaucrats, possibly former welfare ...

I had this experience for a minimum of three and a half years. I wish it on you.

You were a half witted pimple face?

210 posted on 08/22/2002 5:49:27 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"And had I wanted you to give a reasonable response..."

Oh, but you did give me "a reasonable response."

Gloating over the "victory" of having engineered the system into forcing your ex into living out of his car as he hands the contents of his wallet over to you is a very "reasonable response."

For a hard core feminsta provo, that is.

211 posted on 08/22/2002 5:49:32 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Don, being that you have the ability to no doubt read, I'll allow you a moment to scroll upward through the posts and come to the answer about where I came from before making a fool of yourself by again guessing. At least that is one that was explained...my appearance. Suffice to say I had never posted here before tonight. But you might check on my hubby as you seem to be so interested. He's been a member since 2000. He too found Mr. Gay's article to be a bunch of bologna.
212 posted on 08/22/2002 5:50:19 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"Who says it was stressful? I was actually thrilled about the increase. :P"

You seem to think you're pretty smart, so I wonder if you'd care to make a little prediction.

Tell me how many tears you think people here will shed if two weeks after you place your virtual heel on your ex's neck, Roger is back, writing an article about what ensues?

How did you put it earlier when commenting on the misfortune of others? Oh, right, I remember now: "LOLOL!"

213 posted on 08/22/2002 5:52:02 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Oh, but you did give me "a reasonable response." Gloating over the "victory" of having engineered the system into forcing your ex into living out of his car as he hands the contents of his wallet over to you is a very "reasonable response." For a hard core feminsta provo, that is.
Again, you know not of what you speak. Keep guessing. This is really getting good. I'm enjoying the attempts. Still ice. ;-)
214 posted on 08/22/2002 5:52:55 PM PDT by almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"Is that how you enlighten yourself Don? By calling someone a feminist in every other post, you might get yourself believing it. But you've never stopped to read long enough, nor ask any questions, to actually know my beliefs."

Nice try, newbietroll.

Once I see you gloating over having gotten The Industry to wring out your ex's wallet into your pocket -- and the fact that you expect him to be living out of his car -- I've seen all I need to see to form a valid opinion on what your "beliefs" are made of.

The rest of your rabid feminista boilerplate didn't hurt either. It does, however, add a certain "LOLOL" quality to your protestations to the contrary.

215 posted on 08/22/2002 5:55:53 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe; RogerFGay
Seriously, no one is interested in your personal problems, and it is most unseemly to be talking about them.
217 posted on 08/22/2002 5:56:54 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: almostheaven aka MrsDrumbo
"Still ice."

Of course you are. I knew that the instant I recognized you as a feminista.

218 posted on 08/22/2002 5:57:25 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Seriously, no one is interested"

That must be why you continue to read and reply.

219 posted on 08/22/2002 5:59:32 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Motherbear
Maybe we should revert to putting people in the stocks for irresponsible behavior. :)

'Irresponsible', they don't need no steenkin' responsibility, they have been stressed out by the system, so they can blast away at anyone who comes their way!

220 posted on 08/22/2002 5:59:54 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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