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The Pope Has Let Us Down
Wall Street Journal ^ | August 20, 2002 | ROD DREHER

Posted on 08/20/2002 9:29:00 PM PDT by gcruse

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:46:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

There he was on Sunday, the old lion, John Paul II, preaching to a crowd of two million faithful in his native Poland. His words thundered a condemnation of modern man, who embraces "freedom without truth or responsibility." Said the pope: "He claims for himself the Creator's right to interfere in the mystery of human life. Rejecting divine law and moral principles, he openly attacks the family."


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholiclist
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1 posted on 08/20/2002 9:29:00 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Perhaps its got something to do with him reaching his use by date
2 posted on 08/20/2002 9:32:49 PM PDT by Crazymonarch
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To: gcruse
John Paul must bear partial responsibility for the catastrophe that has befallen us.

Dreher, I can't believe the WSJ let you publish this drivel. If I say what I really think, I'll be banned.

3 posted on 08/20/2002 9:35:27 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Crazymonarch
The fetal position is coming back in vogue.
5 posted on 08/20/2002 9:39:52 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: farmnlogit
Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in your message, or does your message (plus typo) display your true feelings?
6 posted on 08/20/2002 9:41:09 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: farmnlogit
At least not in America; this country is going down the tubes.
7 posted on 08/20/2002 9:43:19 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: farmnlogit
I don't know where you have been (under a rock or something), but the Pope has spoken out about the priest scandal. For you to compare the Pope's supposed "silence" to the continuing silence of Muslim clerics in the U.S. concerning 9/11 and the Islamist war on Western civilization is ridiculous, and displays your own ugly feelings.
9 posted on 08/20/2002 9:47:56 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: farmnlogit
Cute but stupid. Check your spelling too. Homosexuality is not part of the Catholic religion as it is with others (you may be familiar with).
11 posted on 08/20/2002 9:50:37 PM PDT by Pugsy
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To: farmnlogit
What abuse?
13 posted on 08/20/2002 9:53:13 PM PDT by duckln
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To: farmnlogit
Can't go to mass in NY with radio representatives fornificating in church.

Our children are being picked up by 'cruisers', our parks at night are homosexual teaching playgrounds. Everyday the press reports a little girl missing.

And you say the Pope has a problem? It would be a better world if our society was as 'clean' as the Catholic Church.

15 posted on 08/20/2002 10:06:55 PM PDT by duckln
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To: gcruse
The American church has not exactly been on the same side as this Pope on a lot of issues. The American church has been moaning about how it must have the freedom to be more liberal and independent of Rome. Now there are a lot of folks upset that there is not a crackdown from Rome?
16 posted on 08/20/2002 10:12:16 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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All of which brings up the question, WHY IS THE POPE POLISH?

Apparently the cardinal running the voting at the Vatican screwed up. Instead of saying, "Now itsa time to takea da vote", he said "Now itsa time to takea da POLE!"

17 posted on 08/20/2002 11:24:58 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: gcruse
Thank you for posting Mr. Dreher's column.

I'd like to remind Mr. Dreher of our Lord's parable of the Weeds among the Wheat.

He proposed another parable to them. "The Kingdom of heaven may be likened to a man who sowed good seed in his field. While everyone was asleep his enemy came and sowed weeds all through the wheat, and then went off. When the crop grew and bore fruit, the weeds appeared as well. The slaves of the householder came to him and said, "Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where have the weeds come from?" He answered, 'An enemy has done this.' His slaves said to him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?' He replied, 'No, if you pull up the weeds you might uproot the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until harvest; then at harvest time I will say to the harvesters, "First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles for burning; but gather the wheat into my barn."

I'd also like to remind Mr. Dreher of the explanation of the Sower.

Jesus said to his disciples: "Hear the parable of the sower. The seed sown on the path is the one who hears the word of the Kingdom without understanding it, and the Evil One comes and steals away what was sown in his heart.
The seed sown on rocky ground is the one who hears the word and receives it at once with joy. But he has no root and lasts only for a time. When some tribulation or persecution comes because of the word, he immediately falls away.
The seed sown among thorns is the one who hears the word, but then worldly anxiety and the lure of riches choke the word and it bears no fruit.
But the seed sown on rich soil is the one who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and yields a hundred or sixty or thirtyfold."

It seems to me that at the moment, the Church is reflecting the sins of society. The faithful will remain faithful to the Church Christ left us, because the sins of the "tares" growing within Her do not change the Actions of the Sower.

18 posted on 08/21/2002 6:08:10 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Quite appropriate!
19 posted on 08/21/2002 6:47:57 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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Ping.
20 posted on 08/21/2002 8:41:29 AM PDT by narses
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