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Intended Consequences: Natural Process v. Environmental Arrogance
The Sierra Times ^ | 8-19-02 | Sean Finnegan

Posted on 08/20/2002 9:09:04 AM PDT by madfly

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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
See you in the fall.

I'll bring the bait, you bring the beer.

61 posted on 08/20/2002 9:56:59 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: nunya bidness
See you in the fall. I'll bring the bait, you bring the beer.

Sawgrass Parkway is (as you know) about three hours north of me, at most.

Slothful a man as I am, I have no good excuse not to lend my support to this happy little insurrection. Keep me well-advised, and I'll put you down for a six-pack of Presbyterian Finest.

I know that you probably think "Guinness Stout without the bitter aftertaste" is some kind of sacrilege, but it is possible and it does work. Get about two bottles in me on a Sunday afternoon, and I'll be singing "A Mighty Fortress is our God... once more for God and Country, this time with gusto!!" at the eventide worship service. (grin)

62 posted on 08/20/2002 10:07:04 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Fine but let's keep that "black water" incident between us.
63 posted on 08/20/2002 10:10:28 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; EBUCK
Ernest, we all need to keep a copy of that Wall Street Journal article handy.

The Green Sheeple of Club Sierra and other Green Weenie groups have a crib sheet of how to lie about these forest fires to counter the proposals to change the Floristry Circus's mishandling of our forests as per the Green Agenda of fire is good.

I have had a couple of face to face's here in the Wine Country with a couple of loyal Green Sheeple foot soldiers on Monday and Tuesday. Both of them brought up the 1% BS, and then they retreated leaving their slug trail on the pavement after a brief discussion of this Wall Street Journal article.

They know that their 1% quote is a lie. However, they are so arrogant as seen on this board, they will push that lie until one of us says that is BS. Then we use the Wall Street Journal article that shows that was a lie like the lynx hair.

I bought up the similiarity of the 1% lie with the planted lynx hair with these two clowns. They just got that puppy dog look when you caught the puppy making a mess and shoved his nose into his mess to stop that behavior.

64 posted on 08/21/2002 4:58:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Carry_Okie; nunya bidness
In my book, it's Carry_Okie!!!

Please tell your most capable assistant thanks for the email confirmations .... looking forward to the read.

(Thanks for the ping, NB)

65 posted on 08/21/2002 9:21:41 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Uncle Bill
In other words, no people.

That about sums it up.

66 posted on 08/21/2002 9:25:12 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Please tell your most capable assistant thanks for the email confirmations .... looking forward to the read.

That would be FReeper NattieShea, Chief Operations Officer of Wildergarten Press. When I walked into a meeting room last week, she reminded me to adjust the white balance on my camera because of the incandescent lights and then started counting the change in the cash box while whipering comments on other speakers' overheads and the poor correspondence to their respective speeches.

She'll be ten next month. Methinks I've created a monster.

This morning she is doing an assembly drawing of a barn owl nesting box she will build. This afternoon she and her sister (Freeper PowerBaby) post their term papers. I'll be sure to flag you.

67 posted on 08/21/2002 9:50:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Shall I give him my copy?....I've got printouts...especially this fine article to hand out.
68 posted on 08/21/2002 9:55:25 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: Carry_Okie
I'll be sure to flag you.

Please don't forget! I'm looking forward to it!

I've been rereading "A Canticle For Leibowitz" ... mostly because I was jonesing for a story and I was totally surprised to find it on my shelves. I don't doubt that indeed the world will be riddled one day with walking monsters and other grotesqueries a product of our utopian quest for Perfection and rationalization of Artificial Life.

Trust me, you've not created a monster but rather a beautiful, intelligent, confident young girl who -- as a woman -- I suspect will be a great source of strength and comfort to many.

69 posted on 08/21/2002 10:18:39 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: madfly; nunya bidness
Bump!



70 posted on 08/21/2002 6:10:25 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: nunya bidness
BTTT! Thanks for the Ping, also honored to be in a "ping list" surrounding my s/n too. Keep up the great works.
71 posted on 08/22/2002 8:08:13 AM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Sabertooth
ALERT!
RIGHT NOW ON FOXNEWS (Cable)
(sometime within the hour
10am to 11am Mountain Standard Time)
they will be talking about
Bush's plans on fires)
ALSO
at 3:?? PM, EST
FOX will broadcast his Oregon SPEECH!


72 posted on 08/22/2002 10:04:16 AM PDT by madfly
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
Hey farmfriend! Whose rights are inalienable, anyway???

MINE!!!!

Go Carry_Okie!!!

73 posted on 08/22/2002 11:05:40 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: Grampa Dave
It seems to me that the "enviornmental vote" is mainly from New York city and LA-- city dwellers who have no idea at all about any of this really. Most probably do not speak English well enough to follow this thread, either.
74 posted on 08/24/2002 9:23:06 AM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; AuntB; AnnaZ; backhoe; Grampa Dave; Jim Robinson
Here is a comment on Mark Vande Pol, from another site by Ben Anderson (azanderson.org). He publshes The Anderson Report by email almost daily. This Article was posted earlier this week. Mark also had a visit with him on his recent book tour. This man gets it! We are lucky to have him in Arizona.

Ben Anderson's Bio

"Natural Process: That Environmental Laws May Serve the Laws of Nature" by Mark Edward Vande Pol is of immense importance. It is the most significant and ground-breaking concept in decades for the United States.

Currently, it is in its embryonic state - about the stage that Microsoft was in 1978-81. And, while Microsoft has had a huge impact, the "Natural Process" can have far greater impact for it addresses a basic need in American society -- property rights versus an ever expanding socialist big government. Property rights are at the core of the American Experiment in history.

The "Natural Process" sucks the very wind and energy out of government abuse, thereby freeing up an massive surge in the economy while better conserving the nation's natural resources.

We are fortunate to be in on the ground floor of the most important sea-change since the Nation's founding.

The question is --
Are we going to allow
the current apathetic slavery continue???? or --
Are we smart enough to reach out
and grasp the golden ring???

75 posted on 08/24/2002 11:02:26 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Pretty humbling comments, aren't they? Ben got the full implications of what the system offers and shared how he sees it's place in history.

It's not an exaggeration. The potential release of energy currently wasted on bureaucracy and distorted priorities in our society is enormous.
76 posted on 08/24/2002 12:04:05 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
This will be a nice addition to your list of Reviews. Quite a statement.
77 posted on 08/25/2002 6:58:38 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
I agree. I'll upload it as soon as I can get one out of Jeff Volberg. Gotta have more environmentalists. This is a real solution and I can't afford to be typified as belonging to either side.
78 posted on 08/25/2002 7:21:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Good point!
79 posted on 08/25/2002 7:40:19 AM PDT by madfly
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To: nunya bidness; hubel458; Humidston; Issaquahking; DLfromthedesert
ping!
80 posted on 08/25/2002 8:05:00 AM PDT by madfly
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