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1 posted on 08/20/2002 7:13:12 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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Unfortunately, this rational argument has already been lost. I applaud the courage of the author to suggest only those who own property should vote on matters affecting property taxes. At the birth of this nation, only those who owned property could vote. Period. The curse of universal suffrage and majority rule is the people without property can vote themselves the property of others. That is exactly what they have done.
2 posted on 08/20/2002 8:02:41 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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One of the tenets of democracy is that all people are equal.

Okay thats one flaw of the mob rule system.

4 posted on 08/20/2002 1:59:27 PM PDT by weikel
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Bump great article.
5 posted on 08/20/2002 2:00:53 PM PDT by weikel
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Citizenship ping!
6 posted on 08/21/2002 6:03:52 AM PDT by madfly
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Citizenship is awarded to any person born in the United States.

This is one of the major problems with our citizenship laws.

I believe that the child's citizenship should be tied to the citizenship of the father. If an American woman gave birth to Bin Laden's child, the child would NOT be considered an American. If the identity of the father is uncertain, then the child is denied citizenship.

I believe this would help to limit the masses of Mexican babies receiving U.S. citizenship now and stop the "Babies R U.S." mentality that our citizenship laws have fostered.

7 posted on 08/21/2002 6:25:48 AM PDT by A2J
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Great post.

I think most of the folks to whom we attribute all of our best soundbites on "democracy" would be appalled and horrified by the grotesque twisting of the word to enable what appears to be an increasingly amoral tyranny of the masses for the purposes of certain Interested Parties and stakeholders.

9 posted on 08/21/2002 7:18:00 AM PDT by Askel5
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IMMIGRATION POLICY

US IMMIGRATION SHOULD BE LIMITED TO "INDIVIDUALS" ONLY. THE BUSINESS OF ALLOWING WHOLE FAMILIES TO MIGRATE TO THE USA IS DESTROYING OUR NATION AND OUR CULTURE. HOW CAN WE PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THE REVOLUTION, CIVIL WAR, ETC. WHEN THOSE WHO MAKE UP AN INCREASINGLY ACTIVE MINORITY COME IN WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF THESE EVENTS OR DESIRE TO LEARN THEM. IMMIGRANTS TODAY ARE NOT COMING TO AMERICA FOR A "NEW CHANCE" THEY ARE COMING TO AMERICA TO "GLOM ONTO" THE GOODIES. PLEASE INTRODUCE A BILL TO LIMIT IMMIGRATION ON A "CASE BY CASE" BASIS TO "INDIVIDUALS, WITHOUT ANY RIGHTS TO "IMPORT THE FOLKS"
11 posted on 08/21/2002 7:23:54 AM PDT by RISU
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In all cases these are uncomfortable questions. In a politically correct world they are not even asked in polite company. However, they are going to have to be faced. Otherwise many citizens may find their nations as they know it lost, without ever having been consulted in the process.

Anyone expecting to have a say in how their country is transformed better have some THICK skin if their opinion deviates from the accepted plan. The "four legs good" crowd will be after 'em with a vengence.

16 posted on 08/21/2002 8:46:23 AM PDT by skeeter
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Are citizenship, and voting rights natural rights that come down from heaven to every person born in the United States?

No, they are not. Voting is a privilege of citizenship, not a right, and awarding citizenship is the province of the states, the fraudulently enacted 14th and 15th amendments notwithstanding. The author avoids addressing the obvious fact that the 14th amendment stands the relationships between the states and federal government and between the people and both of those levels of government on its head as it existed prior to republican meddling with the design of our form of government. He also fails to observe that the declaration of voting as a right makes it impossible for states to enforce laws designed to stop vote fraud.

He had a good idea but failed to explore it.

17 posted on 08/21/2002 8:59:40 AM PDT by Twodees
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