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Follow the Money: The Scowcroft Group
The Scowcroft Group ^ | Monday, August 19, 2002

Posted on 08/19/2002 10:59:30 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Grampa Dave
LOL ! Yeah, Grampa!

You know (he said, thinkin' out loud), I see the possibility that we might go in there Kick some A, take some names and set up a temporary government. Kind
of like what we did in Afghanistan. Let the people elect their own leader and set
up a model of a freely elected system to be used for the next terrorist supporting
ME country where we can do the same. Just a thought, anyway !

It's about time they came out of the 12th century I'd say !

21 posted on 08/19/2002 2:39:48 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
I LOVE your graphics and picture! GOOD JOB!
22 posted on 08/19/2002 2:44:50 PM PDT by justshe
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To: JohnHuang2
Henry Kissinger has his Kissinger Associates, which this time -- in contrast to its shameful coziness towards Communist China -- has not allowed itself to be bought off.
23 posted on 08/19/2002 2:45:00 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: MeeknMing
I don't think I quite said that right, but I think you see?
24 posted on 08/19/2002 2:58:12 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: justshe
Thank you, very much !
25 posted on 08/19/2002 2:59:44 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Actually, Saddam the ba$tard son of Adolphie you know whom has his poor people stuck in a Nazi Islamakazi World of 1930 to 1944. It is time for 1945 to revisit this latest Nazi knockoff!

Now the Mullahs of Dispair and sadness run Iran as if it were in the 12 to 14th century.

If the top 1,000 of each wretched ruling party in Iran and Iraq were whacked off the face of earth, this evening or the near future, their people and the world would be in a far better situation. Their problem is that they still look at America when their buddy Jimmy Carter was in control, and they could do anything that they wanted to do to us or anyone else. That is a very fatal mistake on their part.
26 posted on 08/19/2002 3:02:27 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump
27 posted on 08/19/2002 3:02:41 PM PDT by facedown
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To: Grampa Dave; MeeknMing
Re HK:

True, a handful of Republicans have heartburn over Bush's intentions in Iraq--but only a handful. The list grows thin after Nebraska's Chuck Hagel in the Senate, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, and former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft. The placement of the Times story, though, suggests a mass repudiation is taking place. It's not--far from it.

That's the distortion part of the story. The inaccurate part involves former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, whom the Times names as a critic of military action against Iraq. Not so. He's an ally of Bush. Kissinger laid out much of the case for invading Iraq to achieve regime change in an August 11 op-ed in the Washington Post. He explicitly endorsed Bush's policy of preemption: removing a threat before it strikes. The inviolability of the nation-state is no longer the rule, he wrote: "The terrorist threat transcends the nation-state; it derives in large part from transnational groups that, if they acquire weapons of mass destruction, could inflict catastrophic, even irretrievable, damage."

That's not all Kissinger wrote. He insisted "the case for removing Iraq's capacity for mass destruction is extremely strong." He said containment and deterrence worked against the Soviet Union but "are unlikely to work against Iraq's capacity to cooperate with terrorist groups." And he said wiping out Iraq's weapons of mass destruction "would have potentially beneficent political consequences." He concluded: "The imminence of proliferation of WMDs, the huge dangers it involves, the rejection of a viable inspection system and the demonstrated hostility of Hussein combine to produce an imperative for preemptive action." Kissinger's only qualm was how Bush sells his strategy to allies.

28 posted on 08/19/2002 3:12:45 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: Grampa Dave; MeeknMing; JohnHuang2
Please Don't Let's Be Beastly to Saddam:

Brent Scowcroft, national security adviser to former President George H.W. Bush, made the case for containing, rather than routing the Iraqi dictator and his suspected stockpile of weapons of mass destruction.

Writing in the Wall Street Journal on Thursday, Scowcroft said, "(Saddam) is unlikely to risk his investment in weapons of mass destruction, much less his country, by handing such weapons to terrorists who would use them for their own purposes and leave Baghdad as the return address. While Saddam is thoroughly evil, he is above all a power-hungry survivor."

"I think Scowcroft has done us all a great favor by his article saying don't do it," former Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger said Friday. "My own personal view is that basically Gen. Scowcroft is correct. Unless the president can make a very compelling case that Saddam Hussein has his finger on a weapon of mass destruction and is about ready to use it, I do not think that now is the time to go to war against Saddam Hussein."

29 posted on 08/19/2002 3:19:17 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for more clarification re the losers in life who defend the cause of Saddam!

I'm sure these clowns would have defended Hitler and Tojo in WWII and would have advocated soft and sensitive approaches instead of killing their military leaders and war toys.
30 posted on 08/19/2002 3:30:23 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: PhilDragoo
This was the final sentence and advice to the NY Slimes on your link:

Our advice to the Times: Take a break from trying to manipulate American foreign policy, and concentrate on Who, What, When, Where, and Why.

Exactly, the maggots at the NY Slimes have been manipulating American domestic and foreign policy for close to a Century. It is time to turn out the lights on these DNC pro Islamakazi Clowns pretending to be a news paper.

I have a hard time trying to tell if they control the DNC or the DNC controls them.

Many days I believe that the owners of the NY Slimes, the Compost and CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC really control the DNC rather than the DNC controlling them.

31 posted on 08/19/2002 3:35:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: JohnHuang2; Grampa Dave
Is there any connection between this group and Scott Ritter?
32 posted on 08/19/2002 3:37:53 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Man, that is really scary. You posted what has been running through my mind since I first read of the Bravo Sierra that SnowCroft was putting out.

You posted, Is there any connection between this group and Scott Ritter?

Ritter is such an obvious plant and putz on stage working so hard for Saddam.

Saddam either has pictures of Ritter involved in group sex with several randy camels and maybe Saddam himself, or he has threatened Ritter's family with death if he doesn't defend Saddam, or he has been bought out. What a terrible and rotten smelling POS for Saddam, that Ritter has become.

33 posted on 08/19/2002 3:43:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Their problem is that they still look at America when their buddy Jimmy Carter was in control, and they could do anything that they wanted to do to us or anyone else. That is a very fatal mistake on their part.

Thanks, Grampa !


34 posted on 08/19/2002 3:47:53 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
If you think there is a parallel here then state it but you fail to draw the nexus. Scowcroft is in "private practice" and there is in the minimum currently an apparent conflict. Maybe if Scowcroft's advice had not been followed by 41 then we wouldn't be in this mess now.
35 posted on 08/19/2002 3:52:55 PM PDT by scannell
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for the posts and links!
36 posted on 08/19/2002 3:53:38 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the details on Scowcroft. I became suspicious when the PBS and National Public Radio bamboozled reporterettes started falling al over themselves this morning about the Republicans who are calling for caution against Sadaam. Kookie Roberts said that the Elder Bush was talking to his son through Scowcroft implying that George W wasn't being obedient enough to his more knowledgable dad on such serious matters.
37 posted on 08/19/2002 3:57:01 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: Grampa Dave
I like that; the Evil Opecker's will do a little sweating before this is over !! :o)

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!
38 posted on 08/19/2002 4:03:53 PM PDT by blackie
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To: MeeknMing
That's my intention... :o)

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

FMCDH !!
39 posted on 08/19/2002 4:05:16 PM PDT by blackie
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To: Grampa Dave
I know it, something definitely stinks in all this, just trying to put my finger on it. Ritter used to be pretty much 180 degrees the other direction didn't he?
40 posted on 08/19/2002 4:27:39 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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