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To: Askel5
Abortion is not some "pet issue". The Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights and I'll be damned if the liberal rightwing is going to give it the shortshrift as part of their keeping the GOP policy of Legal Abortion intact.

I find it sad that "leaders" of a conservative forum would hammer you for doing the right thing, in staying on message and refusing to give in to avoid controversy.

This surrender to win strategy peculiar the the GOP these days is particularly disturbing in a conservative forum.

I envy your position and stand as an individual. Being part of a targeted group (the DC Chapter) and having to sit on my hands for fear of subjecting them to the retribution and tag team tactics you have endured is an almost unbearable position.

I agree with you that the Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights, and that if as conservatives we negotiate on that we have already lost the battle.

I keep hearing "stay on subject" and "repetition, repetition, repetition.
I'd venture to say there wasn't this much repetition in Jonestown.

Hang in there.

559 posted on 08/21/2002 9:49:11 AM PDT by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
If the DC chapter is the "targeted group" (clearly you've been taking victim lessons from Askel) how is it that you're here adding a few more cheap shots, and we leave your stuff alone?

Oh, and what was that about "tag team tactics"?

Obviously it kills you guys to see our friends from FRiva saying nice things about the FR Network. Why not just stick with your freepmail character assassination campaign, and leave these good folks alone?

566 posted on 08/21/2002 9:57:43 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
This surrender to win strategy peculiar the the GOP these days is particularly disturbing in a conservative forum.

Sir, I decry your statement because you have just equated me with the dirty left. I take great offense to your statement because I am not surrendering. I will not stand down on my principle that abortion is wrong. Your insinuation that by realizing, or learning, on how to use certain tactics to further the Pro-Life movement is somehow evil and surrending, is absurd.

Your inability to see just what we are talking about is really funny, you know? This whole thing started with my description of how the Leadership Institute showed us how the left uses tactics againsts us, and how we can learn from them to turn the tide. Of those tactics, stay on message and repitition were underlined. Funny how in your post you decry us for using the lefts tactics while praising Askel5 for using those SAME tactics.

I find it sad that "leaders" of a conservative forum would hammer you for doing the right thing, in staying on message and refusing to give in to avoid controversy.

and...

I keep hearing "stay on subject" and "repetition, repetition, repetition. I'd venture to say there wasn't this much repetition in Jonestown.

Nice of you to contradict yourself in the same post...

604 posted on 08/21/2002 10:46:26 AM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
Right to Life is the foundation for all other God-given rights ... if as conservatives we negotiate on that we have already lost the battle.

Agreed.

You must not be sitting on your hands ALL the time else I'd not be cheering you as well. I've admired more than once your own ability to stick to your guns and stand by your convictions. I think that's what makes a man of integrity and I see no reason to settle for less.

(Quite frankly, I find the ability of some liberals to stick to their convictions -- regardless how skew or evil I might find same -- is sadly lacking among the "I'm personally opposed, BUT" party. Particularly given the fact we've got truth on our side, it's always amazed me how it's ONLY the left who have Litmus Tests they enforce without shame or apology.)

All the best, Gore_War_Vet.

659 posted on 08/21/2002 12:04:12 PM PDT by Askel5
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