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Free Republic | August 18, 2002 | Auntie Mame

Posted on 08/18/2002 5:18:22 PM PDT by Auntie Mame

Dear Freepers:

I just returned from the First Annual Free Republic Network Convention in Las Vegas.

The Free Republic Network Cruise last October was the most fun I've ever had in my whole life. The Free Republic Network Conference I just attended was the most informative and inspiring two days I've ever had in my whole life.

The Free Republic Network is stretching its muscle, not by talk, but by action. The Free Republic forum is liberty's college. The Free Republic Network is liberty's workplace.

If you attended, please use this thread to post your observations, comments and highlights of the conference. I will give mine below. But before I do, I'd like to take this time to thank Bob Johnson and the FRN board for putting on this conference. It's hard for me to find the words to adequately describe how great this experience was--and how much I learned.


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To: Harrison Bergeron
When it (repetition as a tactic; ed.) gets into the wrong hands as a political tool, and it always does - we have fascism.

Repetition is ALREADY in the wrong hands. That's one very important reason that I have made the financial and intellectual investment in this forum that I have.

Your "logic" contains a fatal myth of equivalence; using the tools of your enemies (especially when they are as effective as they are) does not turn one into one's enemy. Your example would seem to suggest that there is no difference between the Allies and the Axis powers during World War II because both used firearms.

A tool is not an ideology any more than a hammer is inherently evil because it can be used to crush a child's skull. Tools are simply tools; no more, no less. And, since our enemies are using repetition as a tool to bash us, I say its high time we pick up our own hammers and start swinging back.

If you truly feel that we are all fascists, I would suggest that you might be more comfortable posting in a different forum.

281 posted on 08/20/2002 9:01:10 AM PDT by strela
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To: Askel5
So ... if all I do is oooh and aaaah over the sit-rep, I'm "on topic". But if I criticize in the least anything that's reported, I'm "off topic" and diverting the thread?

Interestingly enough, one of the tactics Matt recommended conservatives learn to recognize is changing the subject.

So tell me, are you intentionally trying to divert this thread from its original topic?

283 posted on 08/20/2002 9:04:05 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Harrison Bergeron
However, the defensive rebuttals the rising chorus of boos only serve to amplify the point you are trying to make.

I'll agree that the thread's progression certainly is evidencing a new, improved uniformity of thought and tactic.

Whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen, I suppose. Perhaps they'll turn themselves loose on the leftists one of these days instead of working so hard to ostracize, belittle, attack and silence the likes of you or me.

284 posted on 08/20/2002 9:04:46 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Note also my effective use of repetition.
285 posted on 08/20/2002 9:05:07 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times
So tell me, are you intentionally trying to divert this thread from its original topic?

No ... I'm outraged and in shock that the notion abortion is a "women's" topic was floated by one of the speakers.

That's not shooting yourself in the foot where the Right to Life is concerned, that's putting a gun to your temple.

286 posted on 08/20/2002 9:06:16 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Slip18
Mornin' Slip! Just fired up the link to the archive so I can listen to what I missed up there in Las Vegas.
287 posted on 08/20/2002 9:06:29 AM PDT by dittomom
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Keep your attitude of post #176 and your ideology will never move by your efforts.

The entire object is to get elected in order to move your ideology forward. Meanwhile, you're rendering yourself irrelevent to the entire debate you find so ultimately important by pushing away any voters who agree with you 90%.

288 posted on 08/20/2002 9:08:15 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Askel5
No ... I'm outraged and in shock that the notion abortion is a "women's" topic was floated by one of the speakers.

I think we can consider the point made.

Belaboring it further here will greatly undermine your claim that you aren't intentionally usurping our discussion about the conference.

289 posted on 08/20/2002 9:08:27 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Askel5
"So ... if all I do is oooh and aaaah over the sit-rep, I'm "on topic". But if I criticize in the least anything that's reported, I'm "off topic" and diverting the thread?"

It's sad you choose to put it this way, but perhaps you've swerved into the truth here.

Why don't you go start your own thread about the silliness of FRN's workshop last weekend?

290 posted on 08/20/2002 9:09:50 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: dittomom
Hey, there!!! We wished you were there last weekend....
291 posted on 08/20/2002 9:11:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Askel5
By the way, Matt also described outrage as the most powerful motive force in politics. And here you are emphasizing how outraged and in shock you are.

Maybe Matt's onto something...

292 posted on 08/20/2002 9:11:57 AM PDT by Interesting Times
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To: Interesting Times; Cyber Liberty
I think we can consider the point made.

I was under the impression it was made yesterday. Had strela and OPH resisted the urge to get in a personal dig, I'd have never been back to the thread.

Frankly, sounds like the conference was a success. I'm happy for the Network and trust it's a harbinger of future sucessess. I realize full well you think I'm somehow always out gunning against the Network but I think that may be more the product of overactive imaginations exacerbated by too much time in private forums where paranoia and emotion run a little wild.

As I told Sauropod earlier today, it's a conference I'd have like to have attended even if I've found the actions of some FRN leadership of late hard to understand. (Might have even given me the opportunity to mend some fences with the likes of OPH who makes it his business to dog me mercilessly on any and all issues of late.)

My apologies for failing to stroke everyone when the one comment caught my eye yesterday, cruising through the thread.

294 posted on 08/20/2002 9:16:49 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: one_particular_harbour
Under 0.1%, if I recall correctly. The Pitchforker got 0.4%.
295 posted on 08/20/2002 9:16:51 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: strela
</font color=brown>"If you truly feel that we are all fascists..."

Nice try.

The WWII analogies are specious. Carville and Begala are professional liars. There is much to learn from them, but this does not mean they are to be emulated for their prevarication any more than the German's were to be emulated for gassing Jews. A tool is a tool. But 'Zyklon B' is not fresh water.

Yes, the Matt Lewis quote was out of context, but the discussion centered around the comments of the attendees, not the Matt Lewis quote. Nobody hijacked the thread.

296 posted on 08/20/2002 9:17:12 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Askel5
My fence has always been open for repair. We'll have a more fun discussion on another topic someday, I'm sure. Assuming you don't go over to the other side, as have several other of my trusted former friends.
297 posted on 08/20/2002 9:18:38 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty
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To: Cyber Liberty
Really bummed I couldn't be there with you guys and especially that I had to miss Laura Ingraham. On the archive I just heard Anna mention Laura's joke about Barbara Streisand as NOSE-stradamus! LOL!!!!
298 posted on 08/20/2002 9:18:46 AM PDT by dittomom
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To: one_particular_harbour
And what makes you an expert in the art of polemics, debate and shaping public opinion? Or are you one of those silly know it alls who think you can opine on anything whether you actually knows about it or not? More importantly, please identify the last time you had anything good to say about a mainstream conservative - comparing and contrasting to your lionization of the Phillips constituency of which you are a proud member. And how potent is that constituency? Under half a percent?

I think it's possible you should have been listening more than talking at the conference.

For future reference in personal attacks:

          Yes, I voted my conscience: Constitution Party.
          No, I am not a member but a registered Independent.

299 posted on 08/20/2002 9:20:11 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5; one_particular_harbour; strela; RedWing9; Interesting Times
"Frankly, sounds like the conference was a success. I'm happy for the Network and trust it's a harbinger of future sucessess. "

Dittos there.

300 posted on 08/20/2002 9:20:43 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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