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California: Bush's visit to state comes at crucial time for Simon
The Contra Costa Times ^ | Sun, Aug. 18, 2002 | Sandy Kleffman

Posted on 08/18/2002 11:57:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush will provide a badly needed cash infusion for Bill Simon's gubernatorial campaign when he arrives in California this week to host three fund-raisers.

But the trip also comes at an awkward time for the president, who has sought to distance himself from corporate scandals. He will be stumping for a candidate with a recent $78 million business fraud judgment.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bush; calgov2002; california; campaign; davis; funds; knife; simon
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1 posted on 08/18/2002 11:57:35 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 08/18/2002 11:58:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A recent Field Poll found that 51 percent of likely voters had an unfavorable opinion of the governor.

Factor in the Fudge Factor in the bias the poll has inherently built into it, and this IS a dead heat at worst!!! :-) DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists



GO SIMON

3 posted on 08/18/2002 12:04:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A recent Field Poll found that 51 percent of likely voters had an unfavorable opinion of the governor.

"The average voter isn't particularly focused on this election yet," said Barbara O'Connor, a professor of political communications at Cal State Sacramento. "There are a whole series of scenarios where this might turn around."

Bush's visit will send a signal to party loyalists that the White House hasn't given up on the race, O'Connor said.

Whether or not Simon can come back is up in the air, but I believe Davis has peaked.

I don't see a high Democrat turnout this time around, so the question of GOP turnout is crucial. Simon needs to give Republicans a reason to show up on Election Day.

Mr. Simon alson eeds to summon up the fire to torch Davis on the Governor's negatives.




4 posted on 08/18/2002 12:06:13 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
It's like that old scoreboard use to read outside the Coliseum in Rome -

LIONS 42 - CHRISTIANS 0

Mr. Simon is awfully long on Christians (no pun intended)
5 posted on 08/18/2002 12:25:46 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I don't want to step on any toes here, and I hope I am wrong about this, but reality is reality.

Kalifornia is beyond any hope. Kalifornia is one of the most liberal states in the nation, and will likely remain so. A conservative does not have a chance of winning the state.

We would be much better served if the few conservatives left in Kalifornia left the liberals to wallow in their waste and left for greener pastures.

Kalifornia is going to be and stay solidly democratic for the forseeable future.

I know that there are still conservatives in Kalifornia who refuse to believe reality. They think that they can change it's course, but there is a point of no return.

The Conservatives will say that It has been only a few years since Kalifornia has had a Republican Gov. problem is, Kalifornia has been invaded by hordes of liberals, and has bred countless more upon it's shores.

It is true that from 1967-1975, 1983-1999 Republicans controlled the Gov. Mansion in Kalifornia.

But it is also true that Kalifornia has become more and more democratic and more and more liberal during that time. Kalifornia was at one time, one of the Most Republican States in the Nation.

From 1952 until 1988 California only went democratic in one Presidential Election. Then from 1992 to Present Kalifornia went democratic every single election, by larger and larger margins. Kalifornia was one of Klintoon and Gore's strongest States.

Kalifornia isn't alone in this phenomina. Vermont went Republican in every Presidential Election in the 20th Century Save for 1964 until 1992. From 1992 onward Vermont has become increasingly liberal and more and more democratic.

This is due in large part to the migration of the liberal New Yorkers who after destroying their state, like a cancer, seep into others seeking what they can destroy.

Kalifornia is a lost cause.

If you really want to change the tide of America, contribute to a GOP Senate Campaign in a Battleground State like Missouri, South Dakota, Georgia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Minnesota.

If we could gain control of the U.S. Senate and get some Conservative Judicial Nominations through, then and only then can we start to cut the weeds of liberalism back.

The majority of the liberal agenda has been imposed on the nation through judicial activist liberal judges. Almost 50% of the Federal Judges on the bench now have been appointed by Klintoon. This is why this election is so Important.

We all saw what happened to Pickering and some of the other Bush Judicial Nominees. These were good judges who were conservative, and the liberals pounced on them like lions.

Forget Kalifornia and help make a difference where you can!

6 posted on 08/18/2002 12:28:33 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
Kalifornia is beyond any hope. Kalifornia is one of the most liberal states in the nation, and will likely remain so. A conservative does not have a chance of winning the state.

How do we know?

The only genuine conservatives to run for statewide office in the past 10 years have been Bruce Herschenson and Dan Lundgren. Both refused to run as bare-knuckled conservatives, and became punching bags for the Democrats.

Pete Wilson is a centrist Republican, but he understood that politics is war, and sounded what conservative themes he shared and refused to lose.

OTH, in the last ten years, California has passed State referendums such as Proposition #187 ( which would have denied State benefits to Illegals), passed a three-strikes law requiring life without parole for violent felons, overturned affirmative action, abolished most of bilingual education, and thwarted the homosexual agenda by preserving the definition of marriage as being one man with one woman.

How liberal is that? Has any other state passed such conservative ballot initiatives?

Republicans who act ashamed of their Party and their principles are the guaranteed losers in California.




7 posted on 08/18/2002 12:43:42 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FF578
You are right here but its not due to a migration of new Yorkers its due to a migration of Hispanics.
8 posted on 08/18/2002 12:46:50 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Sabertooth
Simon needs to give Republicans a reason to show up on Election Day.

If Davis isn't enough of a reason for Republicans to show, what is?

Mr. Simon alson eeds to summon up the fire to torch Davis on the Governor's negatives.

It's too early...IMO.

BTW, business disagreements aren't anything like defrauding the public with lies about your company's earnings. Most people know that. It turns out "the associate" has a not favorable past.

Simon wants money from ex-associate

Lawyers for the Republican candidate for governor, seeking to soften the blow of a $78 million jury fraud judgment in favor of the former partner, argued that Simon should be reimbursed because the partner concealed that he was a two-time convicted drug smuggler.

9 posted on 08/18/2002 12:48:02 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn
I like what you just said!
10 posted on 08/18/2002 12:51:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He will be stumping for a candidate with a recent $78 million business fraud judgment.

Who is running against a RAT who steals BILLIONS from state retirement plans and highway funds. $1 billion from CalPERS, $950 million from the State Teachers Retirement System, $672 million from the highway fund, and $579 million from "other funds". That's FORTY times as much as Simon is supposed to have lost.

Is Gray Davis Looting California Retirement Funds?

11 posted on 08/18/2002 12:52:57 PM PDT by snopercod
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To: Sabertooth
You are one of the Kalifornia conservatives who honestly believes you can change the course of your states future.

You have much more faith in your state than I ever will.

Many states have passed the 3 Strikes your out law, Many more have passed defense of marriage acts. Further more my state even makes homosexuality a felony punishable by 10 years in prison.

The Democrats control your state, you must admit that much. The coastline of California especially the S.F. Bay area and L.A. are two of the most liberal strongholds in the nation.

Your state gave Klintoon/Gore astronomical margins. And don't say that Bush 2 is not conservative, Gore ran as an Ultra-Liberal and Bush as a Conservative and Gore beat Bush in Kalifornia by well over 1 million votes.

You are never going to convince me that the state that is the epi-center for sexual immority and perversion (Sodomites, Child Molestors, Hollywood) is a Conservative State.

San Fransico started out as a hedonistic den of theives and scum and remains so till this day.

Kalifornia is beyond hope.

Tell me, why do you think that you must stay in a state so hostile to life (Pro-abortion) against the 2nd Amendment (Anti-Gun) and pro-homosexual?

There are many other more conservative states with less taxes and filth that would be glad to have you, then your vote may actually make a difference.

I would suggest that you send your campaign contributions to one of the senate races I mentioned instead of the Kalifornia Governor's race, mark my words, Davis is going to steamroll Simon in November.

The democrats have control of the cesspool of Kalifornia.

12 posted on 08/18/2002 12:53:52 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
You got to fight them (socialists) somewhere!

They can use California to take over the whole US!

13 posted on 08/18/2002 12:57:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: weikel
That may be a factor. I find it strange though that Hispanics would support abortion.

Most Latino's pride themselves in family and many come from countries where abortion is banned.

Most Hispanic nations are catholic and most of those ban abortion in almost all cases.

Why would they move to Kalifornia then suddenly support Abortion.

I think the problem is the Kalifornia women.

Bush won the male Kalifornia vote by 1% point. He lost the Female Kalifornia vote by 58%-42%

14 posted on 08/18/2002 1:01:48 PM PDT by FF578
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To: Sabertooth
Mr. Simon alson eeds to summon up the fire to torch Davis on the Governor's negatives.

You got the right. Sometimes we must get down and dirty.

15 posted on 08/18/2002 1:01:59 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks, I'm sure, because of my feelings on the energy issue(s) you might think I'm a Davis supporter....I'm not.

Other than the mishandling of an already screwed up thing, from beginning to end I never saw it as a Davis thing. But that's for another thread.

16 posted on 08/18/2002 1:04:29 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: FF578
The Democrats control your state, you must admit that much. The coastline of California especially the S.F. Bay area and L.A. are two of the most liberal strongholds in the nation.

Your state gave Klintoon/Gore astronomical margins. And don't say that Bush 2 is not conservative, Gore ran as an Ultra-Liberal and Bush as a Conservative and Gore beat Bush in Kalifornia by well over 1 million votes.

Yet in spite of all of that, we continue to pass conservative ballot initiatives.

California is my State, I've been here 40 years, and I'd prefer not to surrender, thank you. I'm rather tired of out-of-State Republicans such as yourself who have been willing to surrender us all along.

The primary reason California has gone Democrat the past several elections is the flight of Republicans from Orange and San Diego counties, due to the influx of Illegal Aliens. There used to be enough GOP votes there to counter Dem strongholds in the Bay Area and Los Angeles. Californians have screamed for years to get the rest of tha nation to pay attention, and have only encountered defeatist and dismissive attitudes such as yours.

Campaigns built on platforms of such defeatism haven't helped much, either.

Why are you in such a hurry to concede to the Democrats more than 20% of the Electoral College votes necessary to win the Presidency? Why do you want the Republicans in such a hole?




17 posted on 08/18/2002 1:11:16 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FF578
You have a problem and California ain't it.
18 posted on 08/18/2002 1:12:46 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: rdb3
Sometimes we must get down and dirty.

We need to do it in every election we're not winning in a walk. This is politics, and politics is war.

Not going negative is like fighting a war without ammo in our clips.




19 posted on 08/18/2002 1:13:50 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: FF578
Most catholics are dems. The catholic church has a "social justice" teaching.
20 posted on 08/18/2002 1:13:58 PM PDT by weikel
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