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Burglar takes his victim to court
The Telegraph ^ | : 17/08/2002 | David Sapsted

Posted on 08/16/2002 8:38:13 PM PDT by ijcr

A burglar is suing a householder who chased him, caught him and held him by the scruff of the neck until police came.

Anthony McCoy, 31, a repeat offender who was sentenced to two years in prison last month for burgling the £300,000 home on the Isle of Sheppey, Kent, claims that he was assaulted by Len Johnson, 37, who caught him after a half-mile chase.

Mr Johnson vowed yesterday that, even if McCoy's prosecution was successful, he would go to prison himself rather than pay a penny in compensation.

The case, the subject of an initial hearing in Sittingbourne next Tuesday, arose out of an incident last November when Mr Johnson and his wife Jackie, 35, drove home after dropping off their 11-year-old son at his judo class.

As they entered the drive of their three-bedroom, detached home, they saw McCoy staring at them from a bedroom window.

"As we got out of the car, two men ran out of the back door, so I chased after them," said Mr Johnson, a self-employed carpenter.

"I ran behind them for about half a mile, over the top of the cliffs, and caught one of them. He couldn't run any more and he just collapsed into a ball because he thought I was going to hit him.

"But all I did was drag him by the coat and march him back to the road. He said to the police I had assaulted him.

"He created such a fuss a doctor examined him when he was taken into custody and all he found was a red mark on his neck. It's outrageous that this has ended up in court.

"All I was doing was protecting my family and our home. I did everything by the book."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: burglary; crime; uk
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Oh! Brittania...how we weep to see you implode.
1 posted on 08/16/2002 8:38:13 PM PDT by ijcr
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To: ijcr
This perp fits the British expression butt hole creeper to a T. Seriously, incidents similar to this happen everywhere in the western world continuously. Whenever a horrendous crime happens and nobody intervenes the satanic press intones that no one cares etc. but, the real truth is that the justice system is the cause of the "indifference" problem. If I had the time I bet I could coordinate it with police unionization!
2 posted on 08/16/2002 8:52:06 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: ijcr
how we weep to see you implode.

Now, now.
A jerk bringing a lawsuit doesn't mean they're imploding.
Now if the jerk wins, it's another story...

3 posted on 08/16/2002 8:53:04 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne
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To: Izzy Dunne
Now THAT would happen in the U.S.!
4 posted on 08/16/2002 9:01:47 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy
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To: ijcr
Rue Brittania.
5 posted on 08/16/2002 9:12:11 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: ijcr
It sounds like a clear case of burglar-profiling to me.
6 posted on 08/16/2002 9:29:48 PM PDT by What Is Ain't
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To: ijcr
It's only an initial hearing. If the 'case' gets past there, Zimbabwe is the future.
7 posted on 08/16/2002 9:40:59 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: ijcr
One reason I will never chase a criminal outside my home over property is because of garbage like this. This criminal will probably be rewarded for his crimes.
8 posted on 08/16/2002 10:45:43 PM PDT by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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To: ijcr
Such is the state of things when people consider themselves "subjects of the Crown" instead of "Free men with unalienable Rights".
9 posted on 08/16/2002 10:48:07 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: ijcr
Two people are guilty in this trial. The guy that originally broke into the house and the judge that let the perps case come to trial.
10 posted on 08/16/2002 10:58:46 PM PDT by MissBaby
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To: Izzy Dunne
Now, now. A jerk bringing a lawsuit doesn't mean they're imploding. Now if the jerk wins, it's another story...

My bet: He'll win. They're imploding.

11 posted on 08/16/2002 11:03:58 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: ijcr
Lawsuits by criminals against their victims are not uncommon in the United States.About 10 or 20 years ago 60 Minutes or some similar kind of documentary detailed the stories of criminals in prison who filed suits aganst their victims for all sorts of reasons.In 1996 in Californa, the law was changed through a voters' initiative to make it much more difficult for a criminal who was injured in the commission of a crime to sue his victim. For example,an at fault drunk driver could not sue for damages,nor could a burgler sue for damages if he slipped and fell while fleeing the scene of a crime when this proposition when into effect. However, a suspect could still sue for injuries resulting from the use of "excessive force" during an arrest. However, if the suspect is convicted of the felony crime he cannot sue for punitive damages!

12 posted on 08/16/2002 11:22:06 PM PDT by stimulate
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To: stimulate
Here are a few.  Someone recently emailed them and it is the first we have seen of them.  If they are correctly reported, they are unjust:
STELLA  AWARDS:

The "Stella" Awards rank up there with the Darwin awards. Stella Liebeck is the 81 year old lady who spilled coffee on herself and sued McDonald's. This case inspired an annual award for the most frivolous lawsuit in the U.S.

The following are this year's candidates:

1. January 2000: Kathleen Robertson of Austin Texas was awarded $780,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little bastard was Ms.Robertson's son.

2. June 1998: 19 year old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbour ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr.Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car, when he was trying to steal his neighbour's hubcaps.

3. October 1998: Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania was leaving a house he had just finished robbing, by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation; Mr.Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner's insurance, claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed, to the tune of half a million dollars.

4. October 1999: Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbour's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in a fenced-in yard. The award was less than the amount sought, because the jury felt the dog might have been provoked at the time by Mr. Williams, who was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.

5. May 2000: A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx. The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson threw it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier, during an argument.

6. December 1997: Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware successfully sued the owner of a night club in a neighbouring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies' room, to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.

7. And the winner is: Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City. In November 2000, Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32 foot Winnebago motor home. On his first trip on the freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the driver's seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly, the Winnie left the freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him in the handbook that he couldn't actually do this. He was awarded $1,750,000 plus a new Winnie. (Winnebago actually changed their handbooks because of this court case, just in case there are any other complete morons buying their vehicles.)


13 posted on 08/16/2002 11:40:35 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: ijcr
I truly hope this case is thrown out of court - not holding my breath, though.

On a side note, what are wages like in England nowadays?

Mr Johnson, a "self employed carpenter" can live in a home valued at $450,000?

With their taxes?

Must be a GREAT union.

14 posted on 08/16/2002 11:51:15 PM PDT by spectre
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To: ijcr
What do the ranchers out in the West say? "Shoot, shovel and shut up."
15 posted on 08/17/2002 2:56:53 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: 2sheep
Check out snopes.com. Most of those stories are urban legends.
16 posted on 08/17/2002 3:22:04 AM PDT by driftless
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To: driftless; Uncle Bill; Thinkin' Gal
I've never been to snopes.com that I know of and don't follow urban legends or joke sites.  Here is a link from Uncle Bill.  True stories:

Win at all costs, the rule of law is dead

Isa 59:14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.

17 posted on 08/17/2002 3:27:04 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: ijcr
A few years ago we had an incident in my town. A man walked into a convenience store, grabbed a case of beer, and ran out without paying. A customer chased after him. The thief had an unknown medical condition and, after a brief chase, fell over and died. The man pursuing him never touched him but the thief's family sued for wrongful death.

There is a happy ending though. The suit went no place and the customer, who was unemployed, received dozens of job offers after the newspapers ran the story.
18 posted on 08/17/2002 3:39:09 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: ijcr
"All I was doing was protecting my family and our home. I did everything by the book."

AHA, the argument for guns and German Shepherds continues. Had this been my house, said burglars would have never made it in, let alone make it out alive. This maggot feces will probably end up with some $$$ from this poor homeowners insurance. We have only liberals to thank!

20 posted on 08/17/2002 4:09:57 AM PDT by dokmad
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