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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: weikel
The mob is not the problem Al Qaeda and the 9/11 highjackers were by Middle Eastern and definitely by Western standards spoiled rich kids.

OBL was exiled from S.A. One of OBL's main objectives was to see the S.A. royal rulers overthrown.

81 posted on 08/15/2002 8:52:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: AIG
Let me repeat what I said earlier.

Please don't. Why don't you go back to Delta Uniform and spew your commie garbage there.

82 posted on 08/15/2002 8:53:21 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I never said we were "unable" to leave.

We're able to leave every country our military is in. We're also able to dissolve the whole apparatus, if we so desire.

My point is that to demand an exit strategy before we've even gone in is pretty unreasonable, as we've yet to develop one for the aforementioned countries 50+ years after we entered.
83 posted on 08/15/2002 8:54:05 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: FreeReign
Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests. In addition, Mr. Perle doesn't serve his own interests when he insults the US military by calling them "not competent."
84 posted on 08/15/2002 8:54:14 PM PDT by AIG
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To: FreeReign
I suspect its a cover story. I think Bin Laden is an agent for the fundi members of the House of Saud. The House of Saud basically has two groups the Caligula types and the fanatic types.
85 posted on 08/15/2002 8:55:16 PM PDT by weikel
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To: jonefab
I don't know whether to shed a tear in remembrance or stand and applaud.

That was a great post. I wish every single American could hear this spoken.

Very powerful, thank you.
86 posted on 08/15/2002 8:55:48 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Miss Marple
Buffett is good at predicting probabilities, which being in the insurance business requires. He is merely stating that the probably of New York or Washington D.C.'s getting nuked increases as America continues its misguided, needlessly antagonistic Mideast policies.
87 posted on 08/15/2002 8:56:34 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Shermy
Kissinger is a lobbyist extrodinare. He has this 'don't rock the boat, just peacefully coexist' with any dictator. His way of thinking justifies business with China.

In the end he is a punk for the communists in China, and now, the businesses who are trying to make money over there. If China doesn't like it, the business community importing cheap stuff from China will have a cow.

China is against the US moving on Iraq at all. They have their reasons, which I can explain some of them if you want...

In the end, it boils down to the dollar.

88 posted on 08/15/2002 8:57:46 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: elbucko
China is perfectly happy that America's reputation is going down the drain in the world today. America can't stop shooting itself in the foot with its needless aggression.
89 posted on 08/15/2002 8:58:27 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Shermy
Iraq is a small version of China.
90 posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:02 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AIG
Let all the neo-conservatives who never served in the military be on the first attack wave into Baghdad.

OK, sissy-pants, I've been a conservative since '64, I have had eight years in the military, and I am ready, willing, and able to prepare and train to go into Iraq. Can your friends in the Democratic Party arrange it for me?

91 posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:06 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: jonefab
Much love and admiration to you! To hell with Kissenger and all the rest of the cowards... and really, what allies do WE really need? That is soooo ridiculous. God bless President Bush... I only hope it starts on 9/11!
92 posted on 08/15/2002 9:00:02 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: AIG
Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests.

So then we should have only veterans decide on all future wars?

93 posted on 08/15/2002 9:00:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Corin Stormhands
That was my sentiment exactly, "top republicans?" What a joke, cowards the lot of them...
94 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:02 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: AIG; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah

Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests. In addition, Mr. Perle doesn't serve his own interests when he insults the US military by calling them "not competent."

Nice try, dumbass.

95 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:03 PM PDT by dighton
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To: AIG
"needless aggression.

Are you posting from a script, Mohammed?

96 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:17 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Pokey78
This is a good thing actually. A little second guessing by trusted political allies is not all bad. It promotes caution, alertness, and resolve in our commander in chief. After all we are asking men to go in harm's way to achieve this goal. Many could die. The fog of war is never clear. It is allways best to be George McClelland before the battle instead of during.

That being said, I'm sure Bush has resolved his commanders to be bold in their planning and execution. This article is crap in that it is not intended for Bush but for us to have little faith in Bush and his motives. We love the NYT: not!

97 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:21 PM PDT by Pharmer
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To: AIG
"Israel hasn't had much success fighting terrorism, and its economy is in shambles. As I said, if America wants to destroy itself and follow the same path, no one can really stop them."

Are you suggesting we do nothing to eradicate the terrorist scum?

98 posted on 08/15/2002 9:03:23 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Husker24
Agreed...Military strategists have said we'd be fools to go into Hussein's hidey-hole and they're right. If Hussein thinks we're that stupid, HE'S as dumb as we thought he was.

What Colonel David Hackworth feels is the way to go is to surround Baghdad and simply cut off their water & electricity and just wait for the rats to desert the hole.

99 posted on 08/15/2002 9:04:56 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: elbucko
As a Chinese, I hope America starts a war and gets entangled in Iraq and America's influence in the world continues to decline. I couldn't help myself, though, pointing out America's attacking Iraq doesn't serve America's own national interests, which most objective observers would acknowledge.
100 posted on 08/15/2002 9:05:24 PM PDT by AIG
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