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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: weikel
The mob is not the problem Al Qaeda and the 9/11 highjackers were by Middle Eastern and definitely by Western standards spoiled rich kids.

OBL was exiled from S.A. One of OBL's main objectives was to see the S.A. royal rulers overthrown.

81 posted on 08/15/2002 8:52:21 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: AIG
Let me repeat what I said earlier.

Please don't. Why don't you go back to Delta Uniform and spew your commie garbage there.

82 posted on 08/15/2002 8:53:21 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I never said we were "unable" to leave.

We're able to leave every country our military is in. We're also able to dissolve the whole apparatus, if we so desire.

My point is that to demand an exit strategy before we've even gone in is pretty unreasonable, as we've yet to develop one for the aforementioned countries 50+ years after we entered.
83 posted on 08/15/2002 8:54:05 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: FreeReign
Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests. In addition, Mr. Perle doesn't serve his own interests when he insults the US military by calling them "not competent."
84 posted on 08/15/2002 8:54:14 PM PDT by AIG
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To: FreeReign
I suspect its a cover story. I think Bin Laden is an agent for the fundi members of the House of Saud. The House of Saud basically has two groups the Caligula types and the fanatic types.
85 posted on 08/15/2002 8:55:16 PM PDT by weikel
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To: jonefab
I don't know whether to shed a tear in remembrance or stand and applaud.

That was a great post. I wish every single American could hear this spoken.

Very powerful, thank you.
86 posted on 08/15/2002 8:55:48 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Miss Marple
Buffett is good at predicting probabilities, which being in the insurance business requires. He is merely stating that the probably of New York or Washington D.C.'s getting nuked increases as America continues its misguided, needlessly antagonistic Mideast policies.
87 posted on 08/15/2002 8:56:34 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Shermy
Kissinger is a lobbyist extrodinare. He has this 'don't rock the boat, just peacefully coexist' with any dictator. His way of thinking justifies business with China.

In the end he is a punk for the communists in China, and now, the businesses who are trying to make money over there. If China doesn't like it, the business community importing cheap stuff from China will have a cow.

China is against the US moving on Iraq at all. They have their reasons, which I can explain some of them if you want...

In the end, it boils down to the dollar.

88 posted on 08/15/2002 8:57:46 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: elbucko
China is perfectly happy that America's reputation is going down the drain in the world today. America can't stop shooting itself in the foot with its needless aggression.
89 posted on 08/15/2002 8:58:27 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Shermy
Iraq is a small version of China.
90 posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:02 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: AIG
Let all the neo-conservatives who never served in the military be on the first attack wave into Baghdad.

OK, sissy-pants, I've been a conservative since '64, I have had eight years in the military, and I am ready, willing, and able to prepare and train to go into Iraq. Can your friends in the Democratic Party arrange it for me?

91 posted on 08/15/2002 8:59:06 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: jonefab
Much love and admiration to you! To hell with Kissenger and all the rest of the cowards... and really, what allies do WE really need? That is soooo ridiculous. God bless President Bush... I only hope it starts on 9/11!
92 posted on 08/15/2002 9:00:02 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: AIG
Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests.

So then we should have only veterans decide on all future wars?

93 posted on 08/15/2002 9:00:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Corin Stormhands
That was my sentiment exactly, "top republicans?" What a joke, cowards the lot of them...
94 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:02 PM PDT by Terridan
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To: AIG; Orual; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah

Veterans have a different perspective on war than civilian war-mongers. They know the cost of war first-hand and are less eager to start any war, without good justification based on America's own national interests. In addition, Mr. Perle doesn't serve his own interests when he insults the US military by calling them "not competent."

Nice try, dumbass.

95 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:03 PM PDT by dighton
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To: AIG
"needless aggression.

Are you posting from a script, Mohammed?

96 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:17 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Pokey78
This is a good thing actually. A little second guessing by trusted political allies is not all bad. It promotes caution, alertness, and resolve in our commander in chief. After all we are asking men to go in harm's way to achieve this goal. Many could die. The fog of war is never clear. It is allways best to be George McClelland before the battle instead of during.

That being said, I'm sure Bush has resolved his commanders to be bold in their planning and execution. This article is crap in that it is not intended for Bush but for us to have little faith in Bush and his motives. We love the NYT: not!

97 posted on 08/15/2002 9:02:21 PM PDT by Pharmer
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To: AIG
"Israel hasn't had much success fighting terrorism, and its economy is in shambles. As I said, if America wants to destroy itself and follow the same path, no one can really stop them."

Are you suggesting we do nothing to eradicate the terrorist scum?

98 posted on 08/15/2002 9:03:23 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Husker24
Agreed...Military strategists have said we'd be fools to go into Hussein's hidey-hole and they're right. If Hussein thinks we're that stupid, HE'S as dumb as we thought he was.

What Colonel David Hackworth feels is the way to go is to surround Baghdad and simply cut off their water & electricity and just wait for the rats to desert the hole.

99 posted on 08/15/2002 9:04:56 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: elbucko
As a Chinese, I hope America starts a war and gets entangled in Iraq and America's influence in the world continues to decline. I couldn't help myself, though, pointing out America's attacking Iraq doesn't serve America's own national interests, which most objective observers would acknowledge.
100 posted on 08/15/2002 9:05:24 PM PDT by AIG
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