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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: FreeReign
The mob is not the problem Al Qaeda and the 9/11 highjackers were by Middle Eastern and definitely by Western standards spoiled rich kids. Revolutions and insane political movements are never started by the lower class( the French revolution started as a revolt by the aristocracy but the mob came into play later) the lower class becomes a tool for demagogues once a revolution starts but various factions from Upper Class backrounds are pulling the strings.
61 posted on 08/15/2002 8:36:54 PM PDT by weikel
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To: MJY1288
The NYT is nothing but


62 posted on 08/15/2002 8:37:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: weikel
Correction they were definitely rich by Middle Eastern standards and some by Western standards.
63 posted on 08/15/2002 8:37:50 PM PDT by weikel
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To: AIG
"Sen. Hagel's line about letting Mr. Perle be on the first attack wave into Baghdad was precious"

Really?

I suppose equally precious to you would have been a comment by Mr. Chamberlain such as, "If Mr. Churchhill wants to attack Germany, let him be in the first wave". Absolutely a juvenile comment. But, if you like it I guess that tells us a little something about AIG.

I expect mr. hagel to follow up his commentary of today with a "I rubber, your glue.." comment tomorrow. I'm confident you'll like that one too.

64 posted on 08/15/2002 8:39:26 PM PDT by griffin
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To: dighton
China would like nothing better than for America's popularity to fall even by getting entangled in the Mideast even further. It distracts America's attention from China itself, after all. The more America gets caught up in Mideast affairs, the better for China. From America's point of view, though, if America wants to destroy itself, no one can really stop that.
65 posted on 08/15/2002 8:39:37 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Pokey78
"...Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

On September 11th we lived through "an explosion of outrage against us"....and I for one am grateful the Bush administration is not waiting for another "explosion" before acting.

It may be time to up Scrowcroft's meds.

66 posted on 08/15/2002 8:40:17 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: elbucko
This situation is NOT at all like LBJ and Vietnam.

The idea that the President just has so much more information and that we just can't know so we just gotta trust him is quite similar, in fact.

LBJ wouldn't make a pimple on GW's....

No argument there.

67 posted on 08/15/2002 8:40:28 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: denydenydeny
I'm sorry did you say something
68 posted on 08/15/2002 8:41:13 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: griffin
Sen. Hagel is a Vietnam veteran. Mr Perle never served in the military.
69 posted on 08/15/2002 8:41:24 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Pokey78
Kissinger and Scowcroft are "top Republicans"? Seems like the NYT is beating the bush for a Republican who will beat on Bush.
70 posted on 08/15/2002 8:43:03 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Guillermo
You forgot new Jersey. Be serious. Don't you think we have other interests in those places thanbeing unable to leave?
71 posted on 08/15/2002 8:44:16 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: AIG
..he knows the probability of America's being attacked with nukes increases as America continues to needlessly antagonize the whole Arab world.

I beg to differ. The longer we wait the probability increases that we will be attacked by nukes from an Arab country.

72 posted on 08/15/2002 8:44:49 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Siobhan
Wasn't it Kissinger who said there were no more POW in Vietnam when the war ended?
73 posted on 08/15/2002 8:45:55 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: RJCogburn
Well, the fact of the matter is that it DOES all depend on trust. None of us has access to intelligence, so our opinions are only based on public information.

Your comment about LBJ is spot on. However, all presidents operate in a realm we don't have familiarity with. This is why it is important to elect someone we can trust. In other words: character counts.

Now, I understand that it is difficult to place trust in a leader when one knows not much about his character. I was not a Bush supporter originally, having backed Quayle. Inorder to make up my mind, I watched every single "Road to the White House" and other C-SPAN primary coverage. What I saw was a guy who was far more intelligent than the press let on, one who was humble and treated all people the same, whether they were campaign donors or little blue-haired old ladies. I saw a guy who didn't get rattled, who kept his sense of humor, and did what was right. He NEVER lost his cool and showed a mean streak, unlike ALL of the other Republican candidates.

Now, does this tell me that he will make the correct decisions? No, of course not. What it tells me is that he will TRY to make the right decisions, which is really all we can ask from any president.

I hope this explains my position to you. Hopefully, in the months ahead, you will begin to see that my trust wasn't misplaced, and will perhaps begin to trust a bit yourself.

Bill Clinton did a lot of damage to this nation. Until his election, I would have never believed that a president would NOT do what was in the nation's best interest. It made cynics of a lot of people. I hope the Bush presidency will remove some of that.

74 posted on 08/15/2002 8:46:08 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: AIG
Not your first name here, is it?
75 posted on 08/15/2002 8:46:51 PM PDT by dighton
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To: AIG
Let me repeat what I said earlier. Warren Buffett has said that the more America continues to needlessly antagonize the entire Arab world, the higher the probability of New York's or Washington, D.C.'s eventually being nuked, at the cost of $1 trillion and millions of American lives. Israel hasn't had much success fighting terrorism, and its economy is in shambles. As I said, if America wants to destroy itself and follow the same path, no one can really stop them.
76 posted on 08/15/2002 8:47:44 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Sen. Hagel is a Vietnam veteran. Mr Perle never served in the military.

Your point, whatever it is, will bite you on the butt with ths kind of argument.

77 posted on 08/15/2002 8:48:42 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: AIG
Sen. Hagel is a Vietnam veteran. Mr Perle never served in the military.

...and therefore what?

78 posted on 08/15/2002 8:49:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: elbucko
Let all the neo-conservatives who never served in the military be on the first attack wave into Baghdad. This is the greatest idea of our age.
79 posted on 08/15/2002 8:50:51 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Warren Buffett, foreign policy expert? LOL!

Warren Buffett is a democrat supporter, and while he is very good at picking stocks, I think his knowledge of the Middle East is a bit lacking.

80 posted on 08/15/2002 8:51:26 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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