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Top Republicans Break With Bush on Iraq Strategy
The New York Times ^ | 08/16/2002 | TODD S. PURDUM and PATRICK E. TYLER

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Aug. 15 — Leading Republicans from Congress, the State Department and past administrations have begun to break ranks with President Bush over his administration's high-profile planning for war with Iraq, saying the administration has neither adequately prepared for military action nor made the case that it is needed.

These senior Republicans include former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and Brent Scowcroft, the first President Bush's national security adviser. All say they favor the eventual removal of Saddam Hussein, but some say they are concerned that Mr. Bush is proceeding in a way that risks alienating allies, creating greater instability in the Middle East, and harming long-term American interests. They add that the administration has not shown that Iraq poses an urgent threat to the United States.

At the same time, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who summoned Mr. Kissinger for a meeting on Tuesday, and his advisers have decided that they should focus international discussion on how Iraq would be governed after Mr. Hussein — not only in an effort to assure a democracy but as a way to outflank administration hawks and slow the rush to war, which many in the department oppose.

"For those of us who don't see an invasion as an article of faith but as simply a policy option, there is a feeling that you need to give great consideration to what comes after, and that unless you're prepared to follow it through, then you shouldn't begin it," one senior administration official involved in foreign policy said today.

In an opinion article published today in The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft, who helped build the broad international coalition against Iraq in the Persian Gulf war, warned that "an attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counter-terrorist campaign we have undertaken." An attack might provoke Iraq to use chemical or biological weapons in an effort to trigger war between Israel and the Arab world, he said.

His criticism has particular meaning for Mr. Bush because Mr. Scowcroft was virtually a member of the Bush family during the first President Bush's term and has maintained close relations with the former president.

Senator Chuck Hagel, Republican of Nebraska said that Secretary Powell and his deputy, Richard L. Armitage, had recently told President Bush of their concerns about the risks and complexities of a military campaign against Iraq, especially without broad international support. But senior White House and State Department officials said they were unaware of any such meeting.

Also today, Lawrence S. Eagleburger, who was briefly secretary of state for Mr. Bush's father, told ABC News that unless Mr. Hussein "has his hand on a trigger that is for a weapon of mass destruction, and our intelligence is clear, I don't know why we have to do it now, when all our allies are opposed to it."

Last week, Representative Dick Armey, the House majority leader, raised similar concerns.

The comments by Mr. Scowcroft and others in the Republican foreign policy establishment appeared to be a loosely coordinated effort. Mr. Scowcroft first spoke out publicly 10 days ago on the CBS News program "Face the Nation."

In an opinion article published on Monday in The Washington Post, Mr. Kissinger made a long and complex argument about the international complications of any military campaign, writing that American policy "will be judged by how the aftermath of the military operation is handled politically," a statement that seems to play well with the State Department's strategy.

"Military intervention should be attempted only if we are willing to sustain such an effort for however long it is needed," he added. Far from ruling out military intervention, Mr. Kissinger said the challenge was to build a careful case that the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction calls for creation of a new international security framework in which pre-emptive action may sometimes be justified.

Through his office in New York, Mr. Kissinger relayed a message that his meeting with Secretary Powell had been scheduled before the publication of his article and was unrelated. But a State Department official said Secretary Powell had wanted Mr. Kissinger's advice on how to influence administration thinking on both Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Scowcroft wrote that if the United States "were seen to be turning our backs" on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute "in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us."

He added: "There is a virtual consensus in the world against an attack on Iraq at this time. So long as that sentiment persists, it would require the U.S. to pursue a virtual go-it-alone strategy against Iraq, making any military operations correspondingly more difficult and expensive."

Richard N. Perle, a former Reagan administration official and one of the leading hawks who has been orchestrating an urgent approach to attacking Iraq, said today that Mr. Scowcroft's arguments were misguided and naïve.

"I think Brent just got it wrong," he said by telephone from France. "The failure to take on Saddam after what the president said would produce such a collapse of confidence in the president that it would set back the war on terrorism."

Mr. Perle added, "I think it is naïve to believe that we can produce results in the 50-year-old dispute between the Israelis and the Arabs, and therefore this is an excuse for not taking action."

Senator Hagel, who was among the earliest voices to question Mr. Bush's approach to Iraq, said today that the Central Intelligence Agency had "absolutely no evidence" that Iraq possesses or will soon possess nuclear weapons.

He said he shared Mr. Kissinger's concern that Mr. Bush's policy of pre-emptive strikes at governments armed with weapons of mass destruction could induce India to attack Pakistan and could create the political cover for Israel to expel Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza.

"You can take the country into a war pretty fast," Mr. Hagel said, "but you can't get out as quickly, and the public needs to know what the risks are."

He added, "Maybe Mr. Perle would like to be in the first wave of those who go into Baghdad."

For months, the State Department's approach has been to focus on how to build a government in Iraq.

After meetings here last week involving Iraqi opposition groups and administration officials, one official said today that there was now consensus in the State Department that if more discussion was focused on the challenge of creating a post-Hussein government, "that would start broaching the question of what kind of assistance you are going to need from the international community to assure this structure endures — read between the lines, how long the occupation will have to be."

Such discussions, the official added, would have a sobering effect on the war-planners.


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To: AIG
China is still a developing country.

Yes and it has been "developing" for thousands of years. When, in your opinion, will it get "developed"?

181 posted on 08/15/2002 9:44:37 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sinkspur
I second that.
182 posted on 08/15/2002 9:45:19 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Texasforever
Chinese pay for it. If you ever visit China, you'll see Internet cafes on every street corner.
183 posted on 08/15/2002 9:45:43 PM PDT by AIG
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To: All
All those panda huggers in the Bush Admin, you know, the likes of Rumsfeld and Pillsbury, told China 'come across the Strait and we're gonna nuke your ass'... I don't think they were kidding either...

They also held major war games, within distance of China's own war games...

They also shoved China's demand for $1m bucks back down China's throat.

I am a panda hugger too! Hallelujiah for the panda huggers....

184 posted on 08/15/2002 9:46:35 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: bonfire
Jonefab ROCKS!
185 posted on 08/15/2002 9:47:22 PM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: mathurine
Look at how much better the Germans, Japanese and Italians are since we whipped them. It took, and lasted, too.

True, but we're still over there. How much has it cost us to coddle this pack of fools and protect them from our/their enemies over the decades?

Can we really afford to keep supporting this? At what point will they have to look out after themselves? Will they be able to do it when that time comes?

186 posted on 08/15/2002 9:50:02 PM PDT by Skwidd
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To: AIG
Do you have a link to Schwartzkopf coming out against attacking Iraq, cause I can't find any article on that in the search engine.
187 posted on 08/15/2002 9:50:26 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Texasforever
The next few decades. By 2020, China's GDP adjusted for purchasing-power parity will be bigger than America's. Then China has the rest of the century to pull ahead. I don't doubt that Western civilization has been the leader in bringing about modern society. But over time, this gets diffused inevitably to other cultures. Romans benefitted from Greeks, Europeans benefitted from Romans, Americans benefitted from Europeans, Japanese benefitted from Americans, and now Chinese benefit from everybody and have the population size to sustain a big enough economy to pull ahead.
188 posted on 08/15/2002 9:50:37 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Schwartzkopf was on Christ Matthews' Hardball tonite.
189 posted on 08/15/2002 9:51:26 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
you'll see Internet cafes on every street corner.

I see. what percentage own their own computers and access from their homes? Yes I have visited China in the 70’s when 12 Ammonia plants were built and we went to the jobsites on trains with windows blacked out. Then China defaulted on their loans and got 6 of the 12 plants for nothing. I guess it was still "developing".

190 posted on 08/15/2002 9:51:32 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: AIG
I watched the entire proceedings from start to finish. I know what was said.

If he's a panda hugger, I am a panda hugger too.

The need for Chinese linguists says nothing. Anyone who really speaks Chinese tends to get over the propaganda. People need to see the real China and hence will know Beijing is full of arrogant dictators who need to be put in their place.

191 posted on 08/15/2002 9:52:20 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Pillsbury said what he said. Perhaps, when he said it, you were taking a restroom break.
192 posted on 08/15/2002 9:52:29 PM PDT by AIG
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To: Texasforever
Everyone pays for it, and most of China's housing today is privatized. You really ought to visit China again because it really has changed since 3 decades ago.
193 posted on 08/15/2002 9:54:34 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
I celebrate the British kicking China's ass from Hong Kong to Beijing. China deserved every bit of it.
194 posted on 08/15/2002 9:54:49 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Pokey78
Yew lissen ta yer daddy George. Nobody ... I mean NOBODY knows more bout snatchin defeat from the jaws of victory then he does!
195 posted on 08/15/2002 9:55:22 PM PDT by mercy
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To: AIG
I don't think so, but in any event child labor laws were enacted in the US long before then in various states.
196 posted on 08/15/2002 9:56:35 PM PDT by Torie
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To: maui_hawaii
Britain's not kicking anyone's ass these days.
197 posted on 08/15/2002 9:57:21 PM PDT by AIG
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To: AIG
Pillsbury said, "for some reason they think of me as being part of the red team...I have no idea where they came up with that idea. I have no idea why."

He was describing Chinese analysis of US officials and how they categorized everyone into red and blue teams. It was in no way a self description.

198 posted on 08/15/2002 9:58:31 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Torie
NPR had a story about the history of America's child labor laws a few months ago. Trust me, America's first child labor laws were enacted around 1946, around the time Roosevelt was enacting all sorts of new labor and other big-government programs.
199 posted on 08/15/2002 9:58:46 PM PDT by AIG
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To: San Jacinto
I suspect the only thing these Saudi royals are fanatic about is -- MONEY

That is very naive. They have had the money for a long time, so it is easy to take money for granted. The really important issues are religious purity and Muslim credibility (i.e., relevance). Bin Laden is their man.

Your post contains no great wisdom. For years the Saudi royals have been allies to the west. Their primary interest has been money and power. Any wavering we see now is most likely innitiated by pressure from the Wahabi fanatics. You remove this fanatical pressure and the Saudi royals will continue to be allies.

BTW, OBL advocated the overthrowing of the Saudi royals and was exiled from S.A. Your judgement says that this was a royal ruse. My judgement tells me that both the fundamentalists and the global leftest media want the Saudi Royals removed.

200 posted on 08/15/2002 9:58:48 PM PDT by FreeReign
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